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Crimson Desert

Braamer said:
I have not played it, I have been researching to see if it is worth getting. I had concerns, which I asked above, and the answers have been defensive enough that I don't need to hear any more.

This game definitely doesn't feel like too much for me, it feels like an empty, pointless endeavor. Thank you for convincing me.

BTW, Hogwarts Legacy is actually a very good game.
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Sounds like your "research" skills are just as bad as your vision. You didn't ask anything, you made a series of statements with no grounding in actual experience. I couldn't care less if you play this game, what is annoying is when people make subject claims with no experience and treat them like objective facts.

BTW, I've actually played both games, Hogwarts is only a better game if you prefer tiny worlds with everything spoon fed to you.
 
grifter_66 said:
Sounds like your "research" skills are just as bad as your vision. You didn't ask anything, you made a series of statements with no grounding in actual experience. I couldn't care less if you play this game, what is annoying is when people make subject claims with no experience and treat them like objective facts.

BTW, I've actually played both games, Hogwarts is only a better game if you prefer tiny worlds with everything spoon fed to you.
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I asked questions about what I've seen about a game (whether you like how I asked it or not) and you resort to ad hominem. Pathetic.

Enjoy your game.
 
what about it? the floating cart? big whoop. you seen the shit show in Outlaws?
 
Comixbooks said:
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Poly said there is some Ray Tracing in this Sewer so I had to investigate.


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I found some Ray Tracing but I have it turnned off in settings.
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Kinda hard to match your screenshot, what is your resolution?

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Something is off with your shadows, was nigthtime when I came up, so I already ran off doing other stuff, will try and match your second picture when it becomes daylight in my game.
 
chameleoneel said:
The color grading and levels in Crimson Desert are crushing blacks and also way over boosting colors. Certain shades of Red, in particular.

You can fix it with RenoDX.
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Oh no, not this...it is like "loudness" for music tt looks perfectly fine on my 4K OLED, max settings, CALIBRATED correctly!

Most problems are USER errors:
https://gamerblurb.com/articles/cri...ide-best-picture-setup?utm_source=copilot.com

  • HDR brightness set too high
  • TV tone‑mapping modes like Vivid
  • Game not updated
  • Wrong sync settings

Final Blurb​

Crimson Desert HDR looks incredible once it is dialed in correctly. The biggest mistake is guessing brightness instead of matching your display. Take a minute to set it properly and the game goes from flat and dull to sharp and vibrant.
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pendragon1 said:
what about it? the floating cart? big whoop. you seen the shit show in Outlaws?
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No, sorry for lack of context. I edited my post to make it clearer.

The archery mini game is notorious for being difficult if not impossible, particularly with a controller. Somebody found a creative way to make it easier by parking a cart in front of the AI competitor, making it impossible for them to hit anything.
 
littlegreenmenfromhome said:
Oh no, not this...it is like "loudness" for music tt looks perfectly fine on my 4K OLED, max settings, CALIBRATED correctly!

Most problems are USER errors:
https://gamerblurb.com/articles/cri...ide-best-picture-setup?utm_source=copilot.com

  • HDR brightness set too high
  • TV tone‑mapping modes like Vivid
  • Game not updated
  • Wrong sync settings


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I have an OLED monitor which has pretty excellent EOTF tracking and adherence to the correct white balance. And the HDR brightness is not adjustable on the monitor itself, by default (it can be forced into an adjustable "peak brightness" mode. But in that mode, the EOTF and Lumance tracking suffers and some content can look really bad).

Anyway, RenoDX completely replaces the way the game maps color space, colors, white/black levels, etc.

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For those that want it, our RenoDX mod can be found in the list here.

This isn't a typical RenoDX mod though, we're doing all sorts of things to improve the rendering and it works in both SDR and HDR. Everything is configurable so you can pick and choose which components you want to alter. The game looks a lot better with it and performance is near identical.

As for the HDR (the main thing I worked on), I replaced their HDR system with a beta version of our new tone mapping system and that (and the other recommended settings) are set out of the box. The game normally uses ACESv2 for HDR, which is a bit different from their SDR but not in significant ways. The native HDR is "good" in the sense that it implemented ACESv2 correctly, but ACESv2 just kinda looks like shit imo. It has an extremely aggressive desaturation step and controls exposure based on your peak selection. Also creates a lot of hue issues (big part of why fires are pink). Just a terrible system for video games, but that's not the devs fault.

The mod is still WIP but it works well right now. Eventually it'll end up on nexus. Also worth mentioning that antivirus software is currently having a fit over it. It's a false positive of course, but I do want to be up front that that's something to expect.
 
TwistedMetalGear said:
The archery mini game is notorious for being difficult if not impossible, particularly with a controller. Somebody found a creative way to make it easier by parking a cart in front of the AI competitor, making it impossible for them to hit anything.
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I've seen the opponent aim and shoot an error a split second before the target starts to pop up. Freaking cheaters. I had to go KBM to have any chance of winning 3 in a row.
 
Braamer said:
I have not played it, I have been researching to see if it is worth getting.
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It's on Steam. Play it for two hours, see for yourself, and then refund it if you don't like it.

I understand there's a relatively widespread opinion it takes some time to get into the game but there have been a number of patches to address some of the early players' friction points so you'd at least get an idea whether it's a hell no, never, hell yeah, let's keep going, or somewhere in between. I buy a game, set an alarm for 1:50 minutes, and play through best I can. I don't understand why so many don't do this more often, even my friends often refuse to at least see something for themselves and instead form incredibly solidified opinions about something they've watched someone stream. It's bizarre to me, frankly.
 
littlegreenmenfromhome said:
Kinda hard to match your screenshot, what is your resolution?

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Something is off with your shadows, was nigthtime when I came up, so I already ran off doing other stuff, will try and match your second picture when it becomes daylight in my game.
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I have post processing turned to low as well running 1440P game is absudly bright on my oled monitor. Unless it's Nighttime then I can't see anything.
I was joking about Poly since all he talks about Ray Tracing untill DLSS 5.0 hit that changes everything.
 
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Braamer said:
Am I missing something?
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What you're missing is that a lot of the negative feedback originated during the first weekend when most people only spent a few hours in the game. Once the weekend passed and people got passed the first acclimatization hump of gameplay and into the meat of the game, player reviews went from 'mixed' to 'positive' to 'very positive' in record time for any game on Steam.

It's similar to old school games from the 90s (before controls were somewhat standardized) where you had to invest some time into learning the control scheme, gameplay loop and mechanics for a bit before the game began to shine. The game isn't for everyone, especially those expecting Witcher 3 quality questlines. But it certainly has an audience for what it excels at (a very well designed massive open world to explore), and it does it quite well.

Most players who get past the opening areas and spend some time with the game will have a blast, the steam stats align with this:
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As gen-z and gen-alpha (the two generations with the lowest attention spans) start purchasing games we'll see more examples of this, poor reviews at release which turn into positive later on because the game isn't super-duper-dopamine-awesome in the first minutes of gameplay.
 
chameleoneel said:
I have an OLED monitor which has pretty excellent EOTF tracking and adherence to the correct white balance. And the HDR brightness is not adjustable on the monitor itself, by default (it can be forced into an adjustable "peak brightness" mode. But in that mode, the EOTF and Lumance tracking suffers and some content can look really bad).

Anyway, RenoDX completely replaces the way the game maps color space, colors, white/black levels, etc.

--------------------------------
For those that want it, our RenoDX mod can be found in the list here.

This isn't a typical RenoDX mod though, we're doing all sorts of things to improve the rendering and it works in both SDR and HDR. Everything is configurable so you can pick and choose which components you want to alter. The game looks a lot better with it and performance is near identical.

As for the HDR (the main thing I worked on), I replaced their HDR system with a beta version of our new tone mapping system and that (and the other recommended settings) are set out of the box. The game normally uses ACESv2 for HDR, which is a bit different from their SDR but not in significant ways. The native HDR is "good" in the sense that it implemented ACESv2 correctly, but ACESv2 just kinda looks like shit imo. It has an extremely aggressive desaturation step and controls exposure based on your peak selection. Also creates a lot of hue issues (big part of why fires are pink). Just a terrible system for video games, but that's not the devs fault.

The mod is still WIP but it works well right now. Eventually it'll end up on nexus. Also worth mentioning that antivirus software is currently having a fit over it. It's a false positive of course, but I do want to be up front that that's something to expect.
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What is the name of your monitor and show me your in-game HDR calabration?
 
littlegreenmenfromhome said:
Oh no, not this...it is like "loudness" for music tt looks perfectly fine on my 4K OLED, max settings, CALIBRATED correctly!

Most problems are USER errors:
https://gamerblurb.com/articles/cri...ide-best-picture-setup?utm_source=copilot.com

  • HDR brightness set too high
  • TV tone‑mapping modes like Vivid
  • Game not updated
  • Wrong sync settings
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Crimson Deserts native HDR is flawed. You literally have to be blind if you don't see a difference compared to RenoDX.
 
Drexion said:
What you're missing is that a lot of the negative feedback originated during the first weekend when most people only spent a few hours in the game. Once the weekend passed and people got passed the first acclimatization hump of gameplay and into the meat of the game, player reviews went from 'mixed' to 'positive' to 'very positive' in record time for any game on Steam.

It's similar to old school games from the 90s (before controls were somewhat standardized) where you had to invest some time into learning the control scheme, gameplay loop and mechanics for a bit before the game began to shine. The game isn't for everyone, especially those expecting Witcher 3 quality questlines. But it certainly has an audience for what it excels at (a very well designed massive open world to explore), and it does it quite well.

Most players who get past the opening areas and spend some time with the game will have a blast, the steam stats align with this:
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As gen-z and gen-alpha (the two generations with the lowest attention spans) start purchasing games we'll see more examples of this, poor reviews at release which turn into positive later on because the game isn't super-duper-dopamine-awesome in the first minutes of gameplay.
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Thank you for the well thought out response. This is this first constructive response I've received addressing the concerns I have with the game.
 
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lors said:
Crimson Deserts native HDR is flawed. You literally have to be blind if you don't see a difference compared to RenoDX.
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Or I just know how to calibrate my games so what is your monitor and what are your HDR settings?

Again, I agree with this:
https://gamerblurb.com/articles/crimson-desert-hdr-settings-guide-best-picture-setup

Reshade/RenoxDX is like "loudness" for music, people think "more is better"...so me on my picture where there is an issue:
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Or tell me where to go to find something bad?
 
There's a nice infinite stamina mod here. Combine it with the JSON mod manager and it gives you very fine grained control over stamina for different things such as gliding, running, horseback riding, climbing, etc...

I enabled infinite stamina for gliding which makes traversal much nicer considering the default glide is like 5 seconds before you drop like a rock.

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littlegreenmenfromhome said:
Data says your are not correct, the HDR implementation is great:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiZ3WX93T3g
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He is not the expert you think he is. He is focusing mainly on blackfloor and highlights, which is indeed most important, but there is more to it. Black crush, color hue issues are a real problem in Crimson Desert. Especially at night in the OW, the image is overall way to contrasty and you see a ton of black crush.

Use RenoDX ffs!
 
lors said:
He is not the expert you think he is. He is focusing mainly on blackfloor and highlights, which is indeed most important, but there is more to it. Black crush, color hue issues are a real problem in Crimson Desert. Especially at night in the OW, the image is overall way to contrasty and you see a ton of black crush.

Use RenoDX ffs!
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No, show me your data, because independant data shows you make false claims, perhaps you are the one being blind and on top not having any data.
Again, what is yourmonitor and show me your HDR settings.
 
pendragon1 said:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsHQDNLGxKo
fucking ign...
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Nobody cares what IGN says anymore. They've become a meme to present gaming. The only reason they haven't gone under is because they shifted to making YouTube videos. Changing mediums didn't make their reviews less crap. I haven't read an IGN review in a long long time that I felt was genuine. They deserved to get shit on.
 
The monkey boss was awesome! I know a lot of people seem to loathe this fight but it's my favorite so far. The way he just yeets you across the arena and the way that he destroys the building around him, it's a spectacle!

I also noticed in watching back my gameplay that Kliff changes his shield position depending on which angle he's being attacked from. For example, if the monkey is pummeling me with overhead swings, Kliff will hold the shield over his head. It's a minor detail but I thought it was a nice touch. Example of that here:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJe00E_71Kk
 
TwistedMetalGear said:
The monkey boss was awesome! I know a lot of people seem to loathe this fight but it's my favorite so far. The way he just yeets you across the arena and the way that he destroys the building around him, it's a spectacle!

I also noticed in watching back my gameplay that Kliff changes his shield position depending on which angle he's being attacked from. For example, if the monkey is pummeling me with overhead swings, Kliff will hold the shield over his head. It's a minor detail but I thought it was a nice touch. Example of that here:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJe00E_71Kk
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That video is overbright or something is way off with the lighting...
 
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