current best air coolers

D-EJ915 said:
because you're making up a story about nothing?
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Lets back up a minute. I'm making up a story simply because I explained my take on products? (after owning a considerably amount from many different companies?)

It still seems like people are reading what I said and taking it as some "You all are wrong, Noctua is the best". Meanwhile, its the furthest from the truth, I haven't spent money on one of their products in 3-4 years and likely never will again, what they offer isn't important to me especially given what I can get elsewhere for a fraction of the price.

However, and this is the part people are struggling with, my first hand experience tells me all the surrounding metrics on some of their products are better. I'm not going to repeat myself again for no reason as I explained it above but if you only took "They have a better box" then I'm sorry.

One can recognize positive attributes and make the decision that they don't matter to them at the same time, FYI.
 
criccio said:
Lets back up a minute. I'm making up a story simply because I explained my take on products? (after owning a considerably amount from many different companies?)

It still seems like people are reading what I said and taking it as some "You all are wrong, Noctua is the best". Meanwhile, its the furthest from the truth, I haven't spent money on one of their products in 3-4 years and likely never will again, what they offer isn't important to me especially given what I can get elsewhere for a fraction of the price.

However, and this is the part people are struggling with, my first hand experience tells me all the surrounding metrics on some of their products are better. I'm not going to repeat myself again for no reason as I explained it above but if you only took "They have a better box" then I'm sorry.

One can recognize positive attributes and make the decision that they don't matter to them at the same time, FYI.
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nothing you have said proves your point about how they are better.
 
Noctua has a superbly arranged box, now I can see that I still have their paste, which I may have used a couple of times.
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Also with noctua you get a top-quality fan, additional clips for installing a second fan, thermal paste that is better than 70-80% of others, all the necessary tools, an adapter for smaller rotations,sticker... but that was all x or xx years ago when noctua was the best and most expensive.
Today, high-end water coolers are being purchased that are superior to air coolers in terms of performance and aesthetics.
 
As for me, I prefer only air cooling. I also tried water cooling, but nothing from it. I would always choose air cooling, let's say noctua d15 g2 as a new premium cooler, compared to the most expensive and best water cooling.
It is clear to me that you hate noctua because it is austrian and european and you prefer thermalright, which you still consider yours.
 
I said what I said, whether you like it or not, thermalright ceo is an american citizen who is in power there more than Kim from North Korea
 
NightReaver said:
Maybe, just maybe it's because they offer equal or better performance for 1/3 the price.

Nah. Has to be some sort of weird nationalism
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I have nothing against the prices and performance of thermalright, they offer a lot for a reasonable price.(at least nowadays when demand is clearly low for air coolers)
I just see that it is not a problem to buy a corsair of 1kwh psu for rtx 4070 vulgaris, but it is a problem if someone buys a noctua cooler instead of thermalright.
 
Strange bird said:
I just see that it is not a problem to buy a corsair of 1kwh psu for rtx 4070 vulgaris, but it is a problem if someone buys a noctua cooler instead of thermalright.
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Both of those are far more complex and have more thought put into them than a fan or an air cooler.
 
NightReaver said:
Both of those are far more complex and have more thought put into them than a fan or an air cooler.
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Well, that may be true, but it's not the power supply from yesterday, it's already an automatic process.
As far as I understand, msi has the same fans in the power supplies as corsair from 10 years ago, same brand.
 
NightReaver said:
You literally said people are hating on noctua because they're European and prefer TR because they're one of ours lol.
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Well, that's true,well, in the thread, there is a strong argument against the Noctua brand,and only because of the price,and on the other hand, it's normal for graphics to cost over 1000 dollars or euros, the rtx 5090 will obviously cost over 2500 euros,and that is not a problem for anyone
 
Strange bird said:
Well, that's true,well, in the thread, there is a strong argument against the Noctua brand,and only because of the price,and on the other hand, it's normal for graphics to cost over 1000 dollars or euros, the rtx 5090 will obviously cost over 2500 euros,and that is not a problem for anyone
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yes, because there is no way to justify the price difference, regardless of how glossy the box is. this thread is NOT about gpus but lots of us do have issues with current pricing trends.
 
pendragon1 said:
yes, because there is no way to justify the price difference, regardless of how glossy the box is. this thread is NOT about gpus but lots of us do have issues with current pricing trends.
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look, there will be tests (also from ordinary people) and it will be seen what the new nh-d15 g2 is like, noctua doesn't release very often and for no reason different models, it's more targeted

in the pictures you can see that there is only 0.5 mm of space between the blades and the housing, you can also see it in the description, it is also a novelty
there are certainly improvements compared to the old generation
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...quieter-fans-more-heatpipes-new-offset-design
 
Strange bird said:
look, there will be tests (also from ordinary people) and it will be seen what the new nh-d15 g2 is like, noctua doesn't release very often and for no reason different models, it's more targeted

in the pictures you can see that there is only 0.5 mm of space between the blades and the housing, you can also see it in the description, it is also a novelty
there are certainly improvements compared to the old generation
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...quieter-fans-more-heatpipes-new-offset-design
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look, its not out yet, and when it is it will get tested and probably added to the thread. so we can drop all the stupid back and forth and goal post moving. k?
 
You are really grasping.

First of all, Noctua was never as good as you thought. Thermalright has been around the entire time, and they have had superior coolers the entire time, just couldn't get them here easily. Thermalright also makes nice fans. By the way, 60cfm is pretty weak dude. That is why they are so quiet lol.

Those who know, know.
 
people keep going on about Thermalright or other manufacturers offering 'equal or better performance for 1/3 the price'...yet they keep ignoring the fan/noise aspect...that's a big part of a CPU cooler yet they ignore it because Thermalright can't match Noctua in that area
 
polonyc2 said:
people keep going on about Thermalright or other manufacturers offering 'equal or better performance for 1/3 the price'...yet they keep ignoring the fan/noise aspect...that's a big part of a CPU cooler yet they ignore it because Thermalright can't match Noctua in that area
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What's the actual db difference?

Generally when shopping for coolers, the cooling performance is king.

*Edit* Looking at the GN review, when normalized for 35db, the peerless assassin cools better than the d15. So no, noctua doesn't win there.

The PA120 is about 1.5 degrees cooler with a higher fan rpm, but same noise.

This leaves additional hardware/ adapters (my FS140 came with plenty), and maybe a nicer box for a whopping extra $70+. If that's worth it to you, well you do you.
 
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makes no sense to me that people are complaining about $70 when they are buying a GPU for $1000+ and CPU's for $400 etc...why not apply that same value when buying the RTX 4090?...if you're building a high end rig, then $100 for a CPU cooler is still going to be the cheapest component...and I trust that Noctua fans will last forever...I used them for 8 years in one build
 
polonyc2 said:
makes no sense to me that people are complaining about $70 when they are buying a GPU for $1000+ and CPU's for $400 etc...why not apply that same value when buying the RTX 4090?...if you're building a high end rig, then $100 for a CPU cooler is still going to be the cheapest component...and I trust that Noctua fans will last forever...I used them for 8 years in one build
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Money is money. But now you're talking subjectiveness.

Thread is about "current best air coolers" and good ole noct ain't it objectively.
 
NightReaver said:
Money is money. But now you're talking subjectiveness.

Thread is about "current best air coolers" and good ole noct ain't it objectively.
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Noctua got passed in terms of cooling performance by Thermalright...but the NH-D15 is still considered one of the best coolers...the problem is that they became stagnant and haven't released a new top end cooler for years...that'll change this month with the release of the NH-D15 G2...let's see how that performs against the best from Thermalright
 
vegeta535 said:
You people
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polonyc2 said:
Noctua got passed in terms of cooling performance by Thermalright...but the NH-D15 is still considered one of the best coolers...the problem is that they became stagnant and haven't released a new top end cooler for years...that'll change this month with the release of the NH-D15 G2...let's see how that performs against the best from Thermalright
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If they bring their A game then sure, they can have their chair at the big boy table back.

It's still going to be a joke if they aren't outright better while declaring a $110+ price.
 
As someone mentioned db adjusted reviews show TR still outperforming Noctua and several of the reviews I've seen stated that it was just the last few percent of fan speed where it ramps up and you can get nearly identical performance with much less noise by slightly tweaking the fan profile. I planned on changing the fan profile shortly after installing mine but a year later I still haven't bothered to because it's never really loud and is rarely even audible.

I'm curious to see how the new TR 130mm coolers perform.
 
Ebernanut said:
I planned on changing the fan profile shortly after installing mine but a year later I still haven't bothered to because it's never really loud and is rarely even audible.
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Pretty much the same experience I've had with the frost spirit 140. It really doesn't make a noticeable sound for me.
 
freeagentt said:
I have Panaflos that I used for 16 years that I can still keep using. They smack the shit out of just about any consumer fan.
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Yeah those were the fans to have back then. I bought a bunch back in the 90's and still going strong today in several of my retro systems. They were good at moving a lot of air in a hurry, yet were very quiet compared to fans of the day.
 
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