Which others do better. For 1/3 to 1/4 the price.
when you're paying $1000+ for a GPU, $300+ for a CPU etc the $100 cost of a CPU cooler is trivial when looking at the big picture
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Which others do better. For 1/3 to 1/4 the price.
You said performance is king. You can do better than noctua lol.when you're paying $1000 for a GPU, $300+ for a CPU etc the $100 cost of a CPU cooler is trivial when looking at the big picture
seems like most people dislike Noctua because of their pricing and the giant size of their CPU coolers...to me the performance is the most important thing...I'm fine with paying a bit more for quality...plus it's not like I'm changing out CPU coolers every year...they also make one of the best thermal pastes as well (Noctua NT-H2)
the NH-D15 G2 was supposed to come out years ago but their quality control and engineering is so good that they don't release products until they are sure of its quality
Nah, spend more money on equal at best performance to show how baller you areLike I said they have waited to long to release anything new. Many companies now make cheaper and better coolers then noctua does now. The NH-D15 was great when it came out and pretty well beat everything, it was still very good when I bought one for my current AM4 system almost 5 years ago. Now there is a lot more choice, with much lower prices.
Thats working out real well for EK right nowNah, spend more money on equal at best performance to show how baller you are![]()
I have several noctua coolers, but I recommend thermal right for friends. The prices are cray cray for noctua nowI might have to look into the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO or Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 for my next build...I didn't realize Noctua was no longer king...I wonder if the new Noctua NH-D15 G2 will help them regain their crown?
I have several noctua coolers, but I recommend thermal right for friends. The prices are cray cray for noctua now
This is 100% false for the heatsinks. If you're talking about the fan plastic quality then you would be right there but not the heatsink itself. (I haven't had any problems myself but the fan frames are a bit flimsier and may be an issue if you overtighten your fans)Straight up, you're getting a physically better built and finished product with Noctua. There simply is no denying this.
We had to deal with nan's for CS in the US in the past and they were garbage but supposedly TR themselves are fine for CS.I couldn't care less about customer service tbh. I have never had to contact service over a fan or an air cooler. And I've bought a very large quantity of fans over the years from many different makes and models.
I bet most people buy Noctua still because "it's the name brand" and don't consider "build quality" or "service".
I'm not talking about material properties at all, i'm talking about the product as a whole. Unbox an NH-U12A and an AK-400 Plus and the difference is stark. I'd still buy the Deepcool, and have on performance chops, but i'm not going to say its the same quality experience.If you're talking about the fan plastic quality
a fancy box isnt worth the cost to most...I'm not talking about material properties at all, i'm talking about the product as a whole. Unbox an NH-U12A and an AK-400 Plus and the difference is stark. I'd still buy the Deepcool, and have on performance chops, but i'm not going to say its the same quality experience.
Unless you're a Youtuber and unboxing videos are your jam.a fancy box isnt worth the cost to most...
And it shouldn't be. (that's also not all I mentioned above)a fancy box isnt worth the cost to most...
No, your point is understood. It's people buying a nicer box and some accessories for 3x the price that doesn't make sense.And it shouldn't be. (that's also not all I mentioned above)
I think the point i'm making might be being misunderstood.
Hard disagree but "high performance computing" is a very subjective term.Silence has no place in high performance computing.
The game has changed. But if you just want to stick with what you're used to, fair enough.I have a noctua nh-u12s, it's not for top processors, but it's good for midrange, I've had all kinds before, but noctua is still the top, I don't know if what's changed.
Who wants a top quality air cooler can hardly go wrong with the nh d14,d15 and this new d15 g2 also seems very good.
I also had Thermalright, thermalright venomous x, it's also good, but I think noctua is better, better quality, the box and packaging and how it's all arranged is really top.
As for the fans, they are also the top. I don't know if anyone came close because I don't follow it anymore, you put a noctua cooler and that's it. However, one of their fans failed me.
So what is the current best air cooler? Any model from thermalright?The game has changed. But if you just want to stick with what you're used to, fair enough.
You may want to review the last few pages of this thread. They have a lot of models that have different names but are very similar but the most discussed and reviewed is the Peerless Assassin 120 (and its variants).So what is the current best air cooler? Any model from thermalright?
Noctua has always tried to get the best ratio of cooling and fan noise.
I saw that a bit in the thread, it seems good.It is 65 euros with me(Peerless Assassin 120)You may want to review the last few pages of this thread. They have a lot of models that have different names but are very similar but the most discussed and reviewed is the Peerless Assassin 120 (and its variants).
I mean things like WCG, Rosetta, F@H, and then there is the professional side of things I guess.. but my 5900X will do the full 260w with all cores running at ~4600MHz.Hard disagree but "high performance computing" is a very subjective term.
Ok, but are we talking about people's desktop PC's at their homes or essentially dedicated workstations that just run one task. The coolers being discussed are primarily used in the context of the former.I mean things like WCG, Rosetta, F@H, and then there is the professional side of things I guess.. but my 5900X will do the full 260w with all cores running at ~4600MHz.
You can, but if you are running at or near stock power limits, you really are no where near what the CPU can actually do.You can do all the things and not have your room sound like a data center
For benchmarks and bragging rights, maybe. Real world, doubtful. I don't need to be deafened just so I can finish a normally 15 minute render in 14 minutes and 15 seconds.You can, but if you are running at or near stock power limits, you really are no where near what the CPU can actually do.
When you see CPU reviews done, they are always at their stock power limits.. pretty sucky for performance, since you can do way better.
That's because neither of you're CPU's would be good for it.For benchmarks and bragging rights, maybe. Real world, doubtful. I don't need to be deafened just so I can finish a normally 15 minute render in 14 minutes and 15 seconds.
what?That's because neither of you're CPU's would be good for it.
TR and Noctua both have printed and plain cardboard cooler boxes so I'm not sure what they're on about lol.a fancy box isnt worth the cost to most...
Do you need clarification?TR and Noctua both have printed and plain cardboard cooler boxes so I'm not sure what they're on about lol.
because you're making up a story about nothing?Do you need clarification?