Amd 5 3600 broke pin

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MisMonster

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Please help I’m so stressed I just got a amd 5 3600 and some how a pin has broke is it going to be dead now? Or can I use an old amd processor pin to fix? I don’t know If it’s an important pin n can’t find out cause msi haven’t released the bios update until next week

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It’s the 8th one from the left at the bottom
 

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only way to know if it matters is to try it.. some of the pins are just ground pins and if that's the case it may still work without it.
 
i mean if it wasn't your fault it broke you could try to exchange it for a new one, if it was then you should probably eat it as a loss and learn from it, just my opinion.
 
You can try it on the mainboard and see if it works. A lot of times the pins are redundant. If it doesn't contact the seller and see if they'll accept an exchange.
 
How'd you manage to break it without having a motherboard you could use it in yet...?

That said, I'd agree with above posters:

1. Try to see if it works without the pin
2. If it DOES NOT WORK and you're confident with a solder, you can probably get a pin from another CPU IF they are the same length
3. Eat the loss and be careful next time. I don't think this is a warranty issue when it looks like user error =/
 
mda said:
How'd you manage to break it without having a motherboard you could use it in yet...?

That said, I'd agree with above posters:

1. Try to see if it works without the pin
2. If it DOES NOT WORK and you're confident with a solder, you can probably get a pin from another CPU IF they are the same length
3. Eat the loss and be careful next time. I don't think this is a warranty issue when it looks like user error =/
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Cause I stupidly tried to see if it would work without a bios update I seen it listed as compatible stupid I know
 
MisMonster said:
Cause I stupidly tried to see if it would work without a bios update I seen it listed as compatible stupid I know
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Well I can't say I haven't made equally bad mistakes. I bent loads of pins from a 775 board before. Lucky for me it was a <100$ board.

Live and learn I guess. Good luck and I hope the pin you broke is a ground!
 
Is the pin missing entirely or bent? Can't tell from the photo. That being said, how does one break a pin clean off without affecting the surrounding pins?
 
MisMonster said:
Cause I stupidly tried to see if it would work without a bios update I seen it listed as compatible stupid I know
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I am confused. You tried it after you somehow broke the pin and it does not work or you broke the pin removing it after you found it does not work??

Is the pin missing entirely or bent? Can't tell from the photo.Is the pin missing entirely or bent? Can't tell from the photo.
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I could not see the problem in the photo either.
 
to answer the OP's question though, I would think if you took a pin from another AMD CPU and placed it in the hole in the socket coresponding to the missing pin that it would work. I have done this in the past with success. Use a socket 754/940/939/am2/3/4fm1/2 CPU, I believe the pins are the same size.

like said before, if it is a ground or power pin it will likely work without it. If it is a data pin, you might get by without it, or it might not post at all.
 
drescherjm said:
I am confused. You tried it after you somehow broke the pin and it does not work or you broke the pin removing it after you found it does not work??



I could not see the problem in the photo either.
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It is hard to see it to be honest but it’s the 8th one from the left bottom row
The pin was broke after finding out it didn’t work
 
mnewxcv said:
to answer the OP's question though, I would think if you took a pin from another AMD CPU and placed it in the hole in the socket coresponding to the missing pin that it would work. I have done this in the past with success. Use a socket 754/940/939/am2/3/4fm1/2 CPU, I believe the pins are the same size.

like said before, if it is a ground or power pin it will likely work without it. If it is a data pin, you might get by without it, or it might not post at all.
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I put them together and pins look same size. Is this permanent (meaning would the pin come back out if necessary?)
 
auntjemima said:
You would put a claim in to your home insurance for a cpu pin you bent? Insane.
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If it's covered why not? It's insurance, not a warranty scam. Insurance is something you pay for when you incur a loss even if that loss is your own fuck up, warranty is for a manufacturer fuck up.

For me personally, the trouble wouldn't be worth it but that's just personal preference on my part.
 
mnewxcv said:
Is the pin missing entirely or bent? Can't tell from the photo. That being said, how does one break a pin clean off without affecting the surrounding pins?
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Broke off with a tiny bit of the pin still on it il see if i can get a clear picture.
 
Cards have built in purchase protection. They generally cover accidental damage/loss in cases like this. Mostly all Visa/MC/Amex cards carry them. If you do open a claim and submit whatever documentation they ask for.
 
MisMonster said:
I put them together and pins look same size. Is this permanent (meaning would the pin come back out if necessary?)
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the pin should come out, assuming you have the entire pin (should be thick at the top where it meets CPU, and should not fall completely into socket). To remove, you will have to turn motherboard upside down (socket down) and move the socket lever back and forth until it falls out.
 
One of the things I've always hated about AMD is their sockets. Intel's LGA setup is far superior IMO. The pins on the board are harder to straighten if you do bend them, but they are a bit more robust and far easier to keep protected than the CPU pins. Even a HSF application on an AMD platform is a semi-permanent move once the thermal compound cures.
 
RamonGTP said:
One of the things I've always hated about AMD is their sockets. Intel's LGA setup is far superior IMO. The pins on the board are harder to straighten if you do bend them, but they are a bit more robust and far easier to keep protected than the CPU pins. Even a HSF application on an AMD platform is a semi-permanent move once the thermal compound cures.
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Not sure if serious...
 
RamonGTP said:
I'm serious. Now you can be sure
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I agree that the clamp really does nothing to prevent the chip from being pulled with the HSF - then again luckily since the clamp is so flimsy most of the time if your chip gets pulled there is no damage. I do prefer Intels clamp/cover. However, the clip HSF design is something I really like about AMD boards.
 
RamonGTP said:
If it's covered why not? It's insurance, not a warranty scam. Insurance is something you pay for when you incur a loss even if that loss is your own fuck up, warranty is for a manufacturer fuck up.

For me personally, the trouble wouldn't be worth it but that's just personal preference on my part.
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Making insurance claims increases your rates, more often than not. Is the long term cost increase and the $100 deductible worth the cost? Unlikely.
 
RamonGTP said:
I'm serious. Now you can be sure
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In my 20+ years of PC building, I've never before had an issue beyond a bent pin on a PGA CPU that I then fixed with a mechanical pencil. Even when my Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra solidified and bonded to both my IHS and my waterblock, I've never pulled a CPU out of a socket. Maybe people just need to be more careful. I HAVE, on the other hand, received LGA motherboards with bent pins more than once that rendered them completely useless.
 
qwertyaas said:
I agree that the clamp really does nothing to prevent the chip from being pulled with the HSF - then again luckily since the clamp is so flimsy most of the time if your chip gets pulled there is no damage. I do prefer Intels clamp/cover. However, the clip HSF design is something I really like about AMD boards.
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HSF mounting on the early LGA boards was pretty bad as it caused way too much flex on the board. Nowadays most boards have a backplate to keep that area pretty stiff. Removing HSF on AMD requires some twisting to break the adhesion between the head spreader and HSF. Pulling straight up requires quite a bit of force and unless all the pins break loose from the socket at the same time, that upwards pull gets skewed to one side or another, causing a series of bent pins on the way out. Getting under there with a plastic pry tool and slowly breaking the seal is probably the safest bet, but that's pretty much impossible with the board in the case and with all the heat sinks around the VRMs on most boards.
 
BrotherMichigan said:
In my 20+ years of PC building, I've never before had an issue beyond a bent pin on a PGA CPU that I then fixed with a mechanical pencil. Even when my Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra solidified and bonded to both my IHS and my waterblock, I've never pulled a CPU out of a socket. Maybe people just need to be more careful. I HAVE, on the other hand, received LGA motherboards with bent pins more than once that rendered them completely useless.
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I've been doing this as long as you have and my experience is the exact opposite. More issues with bent CPU pins than bent motherboard pins.
 
MisMonster said:
hey everyone

Please help I’m so stressed I just got a amd 5 3600 and some how a pin has broke is it going to be dead now? Or can I use an old amd processor pin to fix? I don’t know If it’s an important pin n can’t find out cause msi haven’t released the bios update until next week

Iv attaches a photo
It’s the 8th one from the left at the bottom
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Which motherboard, MSI Bios already released?
 
honestly take it back to store and say defective and try for another yes its crap to do but sometimes you are left with no alternatives
 
You broke it, you bought it. They broke it, they bought it.

It is simple.

Is the pin still down in the socket?
 
BrotherMichigan said:
I guess that's where the more careful part comes in. I'm pretty gentle with all of my parts.
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Fair argument and that's where the Intel socket > AMD socket comes in for me. Don't need to treat HSF removal like it's heart surgery. I mean it's somewhat of a nit picking complaint, it won't keep me from buying AMD but I do hope I never need to remove my H115i water block from my 3900x once I get everything up and running.
 
RamonGTP said:
HSF mounting on the early LGA boards was pretty bad as it caused way too much flex on the board. Nowadays most boards have a backplate to keep that area pretty stiff. Removing HSF on AMD requires some twisting to break the adhesion between the head spreader and HSF. Pulling straight up requires quite a bit of force and unless all the pins break loose from the socket at the same time, that upwards pull gets skewed to one side or another, causing a series of bent pins on the way out. Getting under there with a plastic pry tool and slowly breaking the seal is probably the safest bet, but that's pretty much impossible with the board in the case and with all the heat sinks around the VRMs on most boards.
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Suggestion I just heard recently. Use dental floss right after powering down. TIM is still slightly less-cement like and will separate. Then just slight twist.
 
My 4790K still works, despite a pin on the motherboard broken off last time I re-seated it. I looked up the pin layout and saw it was one of many VCA lines (or something?) and figured it'd probably be redundant.

PC booted up no problems!

So just try it and see... ;)
 
BrotherMichigan said:
Not sure if serious...
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I have never once broken or bent the pins on an AMD chip but i always treated them like newborn baby. However, the LGA pins on the intel boards scare the crap out of me and ive seen TONS of ruined Intel motherboards -- i even bought a cheap X58 with bent pins for $60 that i was able to fix. I like Intel cpus for resale and shipping, but when it comes to building a computer id rather take my chances with an AMD cpu.

My first AMD build was a 486 DX2 80mhz
 
BrotherMichigan said:
It's just a slight twist all the time is what I've been trying to say. No need for all these machinations.
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That works for hsfs with the retention arm, but the heatsinks that screw in the 4 corners can pull the cpu out of the socket 1/4 inch just by unscrewing it. The stock wraith does this. Just something to be aware of, I too have never had an issue with amds pin design.
 
I would exchange it right now. Unless you broke it. Then take it to an electronics repair shop and have them solder it back for you. Good as new.
 
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