Upgrading my Dell u2713h displays

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klepp0906

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A quick glance around the forums seems to point to an understandable prevalence for "recommendation" threads ;P

Figured id better add to the list.

Ive had 4k tv's for quite some time. And over the last year ive found how amazing streaming from my pc to them can be, albeit ala steam link and limited to 1080p due to the aformentioned.

I decided to pick up a few shieldtv units to finally allow 4k streaming. The only hurdle now, is the fact I cant get 4k unless I do it via DSR (eww) or get a 4k display.

Ive been on this for days and cant seem to find what im looking for. I prefer image quality over refresh by a long shot. I dont competitive game and when I do game its usually of the RPG/MMORPG variant.

So the limiting factor for me is budget. absolute max is 800, but id like to keep it around 5-600.

- 4k is a must

- id like to be futureproof to some degree so HDR is highly preferable

- freesync(2) is sought but would be willing to concede depending

- 27" minimum would love a little bigger

- would like it to be an upgrade in more than just resolution relative to my u2713h's

- not gaudy like some of those atrocious looking monitors from asus

i think ive been over them all at this point. anyone whos upgraded from a 2713h would be great to hear from.
 
Im confused, if you have a shield TV and a 4k TV to watch on then why are you upgrading your PC monitors to 4k? just watch the 4k content on the 4k tv???

because you really arnt going to get a great 4k monitor for 600 bucks.
 
to be able to stream games from my pc to the tv in 4k. You have to have a 4k monitor to do so.

it has the benefit of allowing me to play games at my pc in 4k as well :p

has nada to do with streaming regular/video/tv content if thats what your referring to. I already have a 4k tv as you said, and get all my 4k media (outside of games) ala a roku and netflix and the like.
 
klepp0906 said:
to be able to stream games from my pc to the tv in 4k. You have to have a 4k monitor to do so.

it has the benefit of allowing me to play games at my pc in 4k as well :p

has nada to do with streaming regular/video/tv content if thats what your referring to. I already have a 4k tv as you said, and get all my 4k media (outside of games) ala a roku and netflix and the like.
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Gotcha, and i guess a hdmi cable to the TV from the PC is out of the question?
 
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How so?
You can just use DSR
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you can, but thats not real 4k as far as i know. Obviously isnt on a native 1440p panel. Its my understanding that when streaming games they simply capture whats on the display, which would be downsampled 4k.

irrespective of that, I still need to upgrade my 5+ year old babies. Theyve served me plenty well, but gotta stick with the times :)

seems like with 4k displays you have to give up something. aesthetics. refresh. budget. VRR. or HDR.

refresh i can give up. Ive never gamed >60hz and as such, dont prioritize it. Plus i like eye candy and my 1080ti just barely eye candies at 60fps ;p

HDR and VRR further complicate. Gsync is a premium i wont pay for, so leaves me with freesync. Problem with freesync is id need all new cables if it were paired with HDR, because HDR AND freesync require DP 1.4 to work, and so idelaly id find a 4k@60 with HDR&Freesync2/DP1.4. In a 27 min 32" max range. for 800 or less.

Open to sales and refurbs. Used's even.

I love the way the new dells look, but outside of aesthetic they seem to offer the least bang for the buck. I like the LG's but good god is the stand and white shell awful. why would they do that. A white back and stand on a black monitor. Ugh.

Anyhow - I figured i was so late to the hdr/4k party that a plethora of affordable options or at least displays on the horizon (after ces) would be available. Jokes on me >.<
 
Yeah DSR would render at 4k, get downsampled, then transmitted at the downsampled resolution wouldn't it? I don't know if nVidia streaming would do that, I know that's how it would work with SteamLink (apart from the 1080 limit there), so I assume it would probably be the same way for Shield.

If your going to cast/stream the display anyway, don't waste the money on VRR or HDR - plenty of decent 4K monitors for pretty inexpensive if you omit those two details.

Add those in though, the price jumps up significantly. I can understand trying to proof your monitor purchase somewhat (I do the same thing). I'm holding out for decent HDR myself, in the mean time I run a pair of Dell P2715Q's... not the best, but 4K IPS 60Hz, and they were cheap. I won't feel bad about upgrading them soon when I can snag VRR, 75Hz+, and HDR in a reasonably priced monitor.

I'm tempted to get a Shield myself (I do have a Steamlink, but the resolution juggling I have to do makes it an effort in patience).
 
Yea I use a steam link at current. Absolutely love them, and super sad they decided to discontinue them without a successor.

Still the shield with the steam link app should be the same more or less - but with 4K.

How do we feel about the 2718Q? Costco has them on sale atm.

I’d be paying less than half of what I paid for my 2713h which makes me feel like I wouldn’t be “upgrading” as odd as that sounds.

Better resolution, same brightness, but worse in most other metrics at first glance.

How do you find 4K on the 27”? I see a lot of people saying going 32 is mandatory. What did you upgrade from to that? 1080 or 1440?

If I could just win the lotto I’d be set :p
 
klepp0906 said:
you can, but thats not real 4k as far as i know. Obviously isnt on a native 1440p panel. Its my understanding that when streaming games they simply capture whats on the display, which would be downsampled 4k.
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Brian_B said:
Yeah DSR would render at 4k, get downsampled, then transmitted at the downsampled resolution wouldn't it?
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Why would downsampled image be presented to OS when this purely drivel level feature to present higher resolution to OS?

klepp0906 said:
irrespective of that, I still need to upgrade my 5+ year old babies. Theyve served me plenty well, but gotta stick with the times :)
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sure, especially that Dell U2713h is hardly good gamind display
just keep in mind is high quality GB-LED panel with sRGB emulation so if you do not want to be disappointed in color quality aim at something with similar tech. HDR monitors with true DCI-P3 coverage should do just fine.

High refresh rate is nice to have but hardly required.
VRR today is a must have... and thankfully almost every monitor today support some form of VRR so that is not an issue
 
Sounds like we're in the exact same boat Klepp (same monitor and same type of gamer), so I'll be keeping an eye on this thread. :)

I've been getting the itch to upgrade from my U2713H. I own a 4K LG OLED, but connecting to my PC is not in the cards. I own a 1080 Ti, but prefer image quality (and ultra game settings) over Hz. Basically I'm fine with 60Hz, anything above that is gravy for me.

Going back down to 1080p is not an option though, or smaller than 27" for that matter.

HDR is such a bag of hurt for PC right now. Unless you watch Netflix from your PC (which I don't, and I'm sure you don't either), that leaves a small amount of games that even take advantage of HDR. I settled on HDR 400 or 600 as being best for my needs, and I've been searching based on that.

I've been giving serious thought to buying the LG 34GK950F. It's Free Sync 2, but now that NVIDIA supports VRR over Free Sync, it's quite tempting. Plus, it has coverage of around 98% DCI-P3, a more useful gamut than Adobe RGB. It's also 21:9, 3440 x 1440p, which is a nice intermediate between 2.5K and 4K. Most games support 21:9 just fine, from what I've read.
 
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Yep, sounds like we are in a very similar boat.

I’ve been eyeballing the 32ud99 (detest the stand) and the u3219q. One has dp1.4. The other has freesync/hdr but only over hdmi (not the hugest deal, just trying to future proof a bit.

Partial to Dell’s designs and they used to have utmost quality. I realize the 2713h isn’t the ideal gaming display but it’s High quality and accurate for its time. I need a more middle ground jack of all trades display. Gaming displays have too many trade offs in other important areas at current for me. (Sorry can’t quote, too much of a pain from my phone)

As for the dsr - it depends on where/when the capture takes place, but I reckon (as far as my understanding goes from reeearch and Nvidias forums, it’s downsampled if used in that fashion then re scaled.

I’ve even been eyeballing the U2718Q as an interim of sorts. It is 4K, love the design, and is priced exceptionally well (since I’ll be buying 3 of whatever I buy).

Will give me my 4K for a reasonable price until something 4K with vrr and hdr comes along in a year or two for a decent pride (perhaps >60hz and dp 1.4 :p)

Hell. Also torn on the 27 vs 32 thing since I’m only a good arms length or so away.

I’ve been at this for daaaays top to bottom with no end in sight lol.
 
jesus i wonder who makes the panels. As much as I cant stand the idea of having my displays made by monoprice, its incredible they can sell them at that price for a 32. Goes to show :(
 
There's some more details in the Q&A section including "This is a AUO Panel"

I was considering that one if I was going 4k but I'm going Alienware ultra-wide...arrives tomorrow.
 
ah, thanks for the info :)

yea i considered ultra wide, but it wont work for my application due to needing an accessory display and having another computer with its own monitor beyond that off to the side.

plus i used to run surround (and sli) and between the both, I swore off them for life. Too many issues with capture, aspect ratios etc.

ill take my cookie cutter 16:9 now so i know everything will work : P
 
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