Delay Nvidia's Turing 2060

Ehh, I'll wait. The didn't do the price cuts on the 1060 they needed to six months back, so they are stuck with stagnant sales at MSRP.

I can wait another six months for a new card.

AMD cut prices on the RX 580 a couple months back, and I'm sure they're having great sales.

I will either wait, or if AMD makes me an offer I can't refuse, I'll go that way.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see any GTX 2060, 2050ti. 2050, etc...

It'll be awhile before AMD goes 7nm mainstream so why release anything new when they don't have too?

Meanwhile if you are begging for the best performance, Nvidia would love you to buy their $1200 2080ti. And that card will be relatively short lived itself as I'm sure Nvidia will release 7nm turing soon after AMD has something more competitive.
 
Neapolitan6th said:
I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see any GTX 2060, 2050ti. 2050, etc...

It'll be awhile before AMD goes 7nm mainstream so why release anything new when they don't have too?

Meanwhile if you are begging for the best performance, Nvidia would love you to buy their $1200 2080ti. And that card will be relatively short lived itself as I'm sure Nvidia will release 7nm turing soon after AMD has something more competitive.
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There will be at least a 2060, if only to handle the cut 2070s. They will probably call it the 2060 Ti (like the 660 Ti was a cut 680).

It will have about 1070 Ti performance. And since the 2070 has actually hit $500 as Nvidia promised, this card will retail at between $350-400.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Description=RX 2070&Submit=ENE

The 2060 and 2050s are expected to use TU107 silicon, which has traditionally been fabbed at Samsung. Expect 8nm parts. They could theoretically power a 1070 level of performance using 128-bit GDDR6, and price it at $250. The jury is still out on whether GP107 will have RTX units.
 
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defaultluser said:
The didn't do the price cuts on the 1060 they needed to six months back, so they are stuck with stagnant sales at MSRP.
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And that's why I got tired of waiting and bought a used 980 Ti for $220!!

Sorry Nvidia, but you did it to yourselves....
 
Yeah it’s weird how they refuse to drop prices. Maybe they think a 2060 at $300 won’t be as profitable so might as well sell what they’ve got.
 
MangoSeed said:
Yeah it’s weird how they refuse to drop prices. Maybe they think a 2060 at $300 won’t be as profitable so might as well sell what they’ve got.
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If TU107 has RTX, then it will be $300.

If it does not have RTX, then it will be $250.

We already have $150 price gaps in Nvidia's Pascal lineup, so this is again possible.
 
defaultluser said:
If TU107 has RTX, then it will be $300.

If it does not have RTX, then it will be $250.

We already have $150 price gaps in Nvidia's Pascal lineup, so this is again possible.
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I really highly doubt it. I do think it won't have RTX and I do also think it will be 300-400 range. Because 2070 at the 500 mark. Otherwise there will be too much gap. Unless ofcourse nvidia decides to price drop. But from what I have heard Turing is big die and expensive to make so I am not sure if nvidia can bring gddr6 to mainstream just yet. They will probably do something when navi comes around. Not anytime soon though since they just released a gtx 1060 with gddr5x.
 
Also the problem with NVidia is they are sutborn about pricing. I think AMD is moving rx580s at much faster pace than gtx 1060. It already shows with all the postings about sale. So many good cards at sale for 200 with 2 brand new games to choose from. Its just a no brainer. AMD will probably clear the rx 580 series soon the way they have been putting them on sale.
 
NKD said:
I really highly doubt it. I do think it won't have RTX and I do also think it will be 300-400 range. Because 2070 at the 500 mark. Otherwise there will be too much gap. Unless ofcourse nvidia decides to price drop. But from what I have heard Turing is big die and expensive to make so I am not sure if nvidia can bring gddr6 to mainstream just yet. They will probably do something when navi comes around. Not anytime soon though since they just released a gtx 1060 with gddr5x.
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Did you not just read my two separate posts?

RTX 2070 uses a fully-enabled TU106 chip, and sells for $500 NOW.

There is room for a cut 2070, at $350-400. It will have 1070 Ti performance. They will probably name it the 2060 Ti.

There's room for a fully-enabled TU107 at ONE HUNDRED to ONE FIFTY LESS than the cut TU106.

I'm pretty sure the part will feature no RT units (just leverage the improved architecture, and possibly tensor units, so the price will probably be $250. Expect it to have GTX 1070 performance.

The GTX 1060 GDDR5X is just allowing them to toss excess memory they are not using anymore, now that the RTX 2070 has replaced the 1080 at the exact same price point, they have a lot of excess memory and bad GP104s they're not using.

IT was never intended to enhance performance, as it was only released by OEMs in China.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidi...die-as-the-1070-1070Ti-and-1080.361441.0.html
 
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defaultluser said:
I'm pretty sure the part will feature no RT units (just leverage the improved architecture, and possibly tensor units, so the price will probably be $250. Expect it to have GTX 1070 performance.
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If they are cut-down dies, it makes no sense that all the RT units will be missing - the RT units are distributed throughout the compute clusters, and it is unlikely they will magically all go bad...
 
bwang said:
If they are cut-down dies, it makes no sense that all the RT units will be missing - the RT units are distributed throughout the compute clusters, and it is unlikely they will magically all go bad...
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It's not about them magically going bad, it's about needing a certain threshold to process DXR code at least on the lowest quality. If you'd only be able to use DXR at 20fps, there's little point on including hardware that'd calculate, say, 3 gigarays.
 
All these arm chair experts in here with first hand knowledge I’m sure. Maybe if I bold my text people will take it more seriously?

All joking aside, Nvidia has no reason to fill this gap until it gets off tho pile of 1060 inventory.

Why they don’t just blow out the 1060 at reduced prices I’ll never know. As soon as AMD drops the price of the 590 by another $30-40, Nvidia may not have a choice.
 
jmilcher said:
All these arm chair experts in here with first hand knowledge I’m sure. Maybe if I bold my text people will take it more seriously?

All joking aside, Nvidia has no reason to fill this gap until it gets off tho pile of 1060 inventory.

Why they don’t just blow out the 1060 at reduced prices I’ll never know. As soon as AMD drops the price of the 590 by another $30-40, Nvidia may not have a choice.
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I only bolded my text because the person who responded to me pretended there was a $200 price gap in my proposed lineup, when there isn't.


And yes, ,there is nothing forcing NVIDIA to release these parts. But every month they delay is another month they build-up failed RTX 2070 dies.

You can bet your ass they have a ton of those. And launching the RTX 2060 Ti based off cut TU106 would require a subsequent release of the TU107 to finish fleshing out the lineup. Nvidia has traditionally done lower-cost releases at 3 month intervals.

So that's why I say, expect RTX 2060 Ti within three months, and the rest of the GP107 lineup within 6 months.


For NEW ARCHITECTURE RELEASES over $300 price point, they trend to release those within a month or two of the uncut version (GTX 680-> GTX 670 2 months, GTX 980 and 970 were simultaneous release, GTX 1080->GTX 1070 in one month).

The more a card costs, the more Nvidia cares about maintaining release momentum, and not sitting on Inventory. So the cut RTX 2070 will be released by January, and the TU107 will be released by April. That gives Nvidia 6 months to dump pascal inventory, which they've already done for GP102 and GP104.
 
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