NVIDIA's Secret GPU: TU106-400A vs. TU106-400 Benchmark

ole-m said:

Ohh you have an 12 inch laptop, that means your I7 is an I3 desktop downclocked, you have an 13 inch then it's like a downclocked I5, you have an 17" then it's an I7 downclocked.

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The Ark is your friend.

ole-m said:

You have a laptop GTX whatever it's always way less and people think an 12Inch with GTX1050 and I7 is equal to an desktop with I7 and 1050 and it's absolutely miserable having to explain to people who needs workstations and doesn't understand computers..

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Less transparent, but yeah, you can look this stuff up, especially using Notebookcheck.

Now explaining it all to rubes, well...

ole-m said:

This would obviously be the same for amd but they're not that large in the notebook segment yet.

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What should be understood is TDP; not in terms of absolutes, but in classes, especially for mobile and server (and probably workstation) use. TDP sets the limit on just how much work is going to be getting done. It's why the 8550U in my 13" ultrabook isn't going to be giving the 7600K in my server a run for its money, despite the same number of cores, more threads, i7 branding on the mobile part, and higher boost clockspeeds on top.

Zarathustra[H] said:

I'm ok with varying silicon quality if it has not been intentionally manipulated.

I know it's th esilicon lottery.

If somoene is manipulating it - however - and putting it into different categories, I want to know what I am buying.

Essentially, everything they know should be shared with the customer. If they don't know, they don't have to tell me, but if they do, I should be informed.

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Consoles have half a dozen or more part numbers, I don’t get it.

Eulogy said:

Reapeating the same thing over and over again doesn't help

You go buy a car. It's advertised as 300 hp, 250 ft-lb torque, 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, top speed of 185 mph, and a curb weight of 3100 lbs. You _really_ don't care if it's a V8 or blown I4 under the hood?

(FWIW, I'm behind your thinking -- it doesn't matter what chip is present as long as it meets 2070/2080/ti spec. But there is something to be said on expectation of product received for money paid)

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This is more like a car built with a V8 that could have come from two different plants. Both plants' V8s are built to spec and perform as they should, but one is producing stronger castings that can handle more power from mods. That's not something that's going to be advertised, and buyers will just have to look under the hood to know which one they got.

ryan_975 said:

This is more like a car built with a V8 that could have come from two different plants. Both plants' V8s are built to spec and perform as they should, but one is producing stronger castings that can handle more power from mods. That's not something that's going to be advertised, and buyers will just have to look under the hood to know which one they got.

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I was going to go with it is like when GM (Chevrolet in particular) would have both 2-bolt and 4-bolt mains from the same casting on their various V-8's. Annoying to sort out, but you got what you were sold when it came to numbers.

The cards do have a different VRM and power limit causing the biggest difference however. With appropriate cooling it would be interesting to examine unlocked vs unlocked and how artificial the current limits are.

I would guess around 20-30mhz with decent cooling would be the actual difference.

Haven’t nGreedia made an ‘A’ version of the 104GPU as well now?

It’s disgusting what depths nGreedia will plummet to, to fuck the PC gaming scene even harder than it has already.

Paul_Johnson said:

You are buying a 2070 spec graphics card. It makes spec. You got what you bought.

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So you spend the extra money on an enthusiast card, built for OC, and you set it up and have fun, until your friend comes over and shows you his card, $90 cheaper, not specifically advertised as an OC card, and running at faster speeds than yours because it had an ‘A’ rated chip, and yours didn’t, because you had no way to check, without possibly damaging your card or voiding the warranty...

Tell me this is not being ripped off and cheated? This is NOT the same game as the silicon lottery that we all know and accept.

Stimpy88 said:

So you spend the extra money on an enthusiast card, built for OC, and you set it up and have fun, until your friend comes over and shows you his card, $90 cheaper, not specifically advertised as an OC card, and running at faster speeds than yours because it had an ‘A’ rated chip, and yours didn’t, because you had no way to check, without possibly damaging your card or voiding the warranty...

Tell me this is not being ripped off and cheated? This is NOT the same game as the silicon lottery that we all know and accept.

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It's not. Are you familiar with the concept of overclocking? Or different AIB designs?