Windows 10 1803 “Isn’t Ready for Prime Time”

Despite the furor over updates and telemetry, Windows 10 runs my games faster; so I run it. That's all I care about. Updates are fairly easy to block until others have beta tested them for me and telemetry is easy to block either via DNS (piHole is awesome) or with firewall rules (or both - best to be sure).
 
Many of the "feature" updates that I don't even want bypass WSUS altogether.

FYI - WSUS on Server 2008 doesn't understand the feature updates and the machines don't get them.

At all.

I have to manually run the Windows 10 update assistant. Not that I'm complaining :)
 
Intel NIC here and no issues, speeds are just as fast as they ever were and I have not experienced any drops from my router.
 
Untested is nonsense, there's millions testing in the Windows Insider program. Tested again every possible combination of hardware and software, nope. Microsoft could have 10 times the QA staff, that's impossible to do.

Millions of drones running a prerelease build because it's an easy way to get a free key is not a substitute for professional QA testers like the division MS got rid of. Most "insiders" never report anything, and the ones that do admit they quickly lose interest because they believe MS just ignores the feedback anyway.

But yes keep extolling the virtues of making your customers your lab rats - the product continues to suffer for it, as Windows 10's botched update trail is the worst of any Windows in recent decades. Microsoft's insistence on trojan horsing a full reinstall of the OS every six months in a "feature update" candy coating is the biggest joke, because that's what's creating the most new headaches for customers that didn't ask for any of this shit - many who were force converted to 10 by the GWX malware.
 
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Millions of drones running a prerelease build because it's an easy way to get a free key is not the same as professional QA testers like the kind MS got rid of. Most "insiders" never report anything, and the ones that do admit they quickly lose interest because they believe MS just ignores the feedback anyway.

But yes keep extolling the virtues of making your customers your lab rats - the product continues to suffer for it, as Windows 10's botched update trail is the worst of any Windows in recent decades. Microsoft's insistence on trojan horsing a full reinstall of the OS every six months in a "feature update" candy coating is the biggest joke, because that's what's creating the most new headaches for customers that didn't ask for any of this shit - many were force converted to 10.

No one is forced to become insiders. They do it on their own. If you had a business where people would willingly beta test your software, would you not use it? Back in the day, when writing programs I had to rely on my buddies to test it. Which meant loading it onto floppies for them all and asking them to test. Sometimes they would, sometimes they wouldn't. If I had millions that would do it for NOTHING just by offering it, why wouldn't I?

Are you implying that Linux doesn't offer the exact same thing? They have tons of beta builds and they rely heavily on beta testers. So, its ok in that sense, but not Microsofts because they have more money? If that what this is? The big bad MS has tons of cash! How dare they let people voluntarily test an OS and provide feedback for them!

Get over it. Microsoft did it to save money. They took a gamble and let people beta test and people happily did it.
 
No one is forced to become insiders. They do it on their own. If you had a business where people would willingly beta test your software, would you not use it? Back in the day, when writing programs I had to rely on my buddies to test it. Which meant loading it onto floppies for them all and asking them to test. Sometimes they would, sometimes they wouldn't. If I had millions that would do it for NOTHING just by offering it, why wouldn't I?

Are you implying that Linux doesn't offer the exact same thing? They have tons of beta builds and they rely heavily on beta testers. So, its ok in that sense, but not Microsofts because they have more money? If that what this is? The big bad MS has tons of cash! How dare they let people voluntarily test an OS and provide feedback for them!

Get over it. Microsoft did it to save money. They took a gamble and let people beta test and people happily did it.

The rolling release/LTS model works far better under Linux than it does under Windows in my humble experience.
 
My Chrome is still jacked even after the update to "fix" Chrome-freezing issues that came from 1803. Only way I can use Chrome is by turning off 'Direct Composition' ( '--disable-direct-composition' in target field of shortcut for those needing it) If I don't use that, watching just a few quick Youtube videos or Twitch causes my whole computer to become unresponsive and requires as hard reboot. This also occurs on my friend's rig too, so not just mine.
 
My Chrome is still jacked even after the update to "fix" Chrome-freezing issues that came from 1803. Only way I can use Chrome is by turning off 'Direct Composition' ( '--disable-direct-composition' in target field of shortcut for those needing it) If I don't use that, watching just a few quick Youtube videos or Twitch causes my whole computer to become unresponsive and requires as hard reboot. This also occurs on my friend's rig too, so not just mine.
so is that windows or chromes fault? has chrome released an update?
 
so is that windows or chromes fault? has chrome released an update?

From what I've gathered, a combination of both (the 1803 update really messed up registry permissions for a lot of people). I was more getting at that some of the more stable (and most popular) applications have started having issues. Even their own applications were having problems...

Issues happen, learning experience for all.
 
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