New generation 800-1000w Gold+ rated PSU - Seasonic vs EVGA...others?

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RanceJustice

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Hello all. I'm currently considering a new PSU for an upcoming build for a rebuild. This PC will be used for server tasks of all sorts, from storage/file server/NAS stuff, Plex/Emby streaming/encoding, misc server tasks and testbed stuff I don't run on the main PC, and if I decide to do any crypto mining it will likely be on this platform. The rest of the hardware will be mid-to-high grade likely using AMD Ryzen/Threadripper 2.0 platform overclocked and will potentially have at least 4-6 HDDs (plus a SSD boot drive), uncertain GPU future but I want to plan for 1 or 2 AMD Polaris or Vega if mining, regarding power use (I know I'll need a much bigger PSU if running a primary mining-focused rig with more than 2 GPUs).

I typically run my PSUs for a long, long time so quality/reliability is a factor. Normally I pick up around 1000w so I have room to grow, but I wonder if I can drop to 850w without worry for this build? Its nice there are quite a few quality PSUs available these days. I've been targeting 80+ Gold rating or better, but when it gets to Platinum or Titanium sometimes the price seems to jump significantly and I am unsure if it is worth it. Primarily I've been looking into Seasonic, EVGA, and Corsair since they seem to have some of the best reputations, but from what I can tell sometimes Corsair lacks either a price or feature advantage of the other two. Also, all 3 of these brands tend to have custom sleeved cables available thanks to their quality and popularity so thats a nice bonus.

EVGA's G3 line, their newest offerings, is sort of my baseline starting point. I have the G3 1000w in my main rig and it has been fantastic and its 10 year warranty is great; tons of positive reviews show it to be a great offering. At the moment the 1000w is around $200 and the 850w is around $140 with a $20 mail in rebate.

Seasonic is my top competitor for EVGA and also has a stellar reputation. My big question is the main differences between the Prime Ultra series and the Focus Plus series and if its worth the more expensive Prime Ultra? I've seen some fantastic deals for the recently [H] reviewed Focus Plus Gold 850w (sadly the focus plus series does not seem to be 1000w anywhere but that's okay) that make it around $115 plus a rebate. There''s a Focus Plus Platinum for around $145 but I don't know if its worth it for a minor efficiency increase; I don't think there are any other differences between Focus Plus Gold and Platinum at the same wattage? So should I stick with Focus Plus or is there a real reason to go to Prime Ultra instead?

At the moment I'm consider EVGA G3 850w vs Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w - any input on how they stack up in features/specs beyond the obviously listed ones?

Thanks
 
Due to the move on the part of EVGA for the G3/P3/T3 line and the Seasonic move in the Prime/Focus line to "fancy name sleeve bearing fans" instead of the good LONG LASTING BALL BEARING fans of the G2/P2/T2 and X/SS lines, I refuse to even look at the current generation EVGA and Seasonic offerings.

Major bummer, as the X-series power supplies have been my "go-to" option with the G2 as my backup "go-to" option for years now, and I totally FAIL to understand how they can claim that ANY sleeve-bearing design can have a long lifespan.

Thank goodness the G2 series is still available a lot of the time, and even at a reasonable price if you are patient enough....


That Thermaltake model is ALSO a fancy name "sleeve bearing" design - anytime you see "hydraulic" as part of the description for the fan, it's sleeve bearing.


Corsair - varies. Some of their designs are made by Seasonic or Super Flower (EVGA G2/P2/T2 line was the Super Flower ":Leadex" platform), some are made by lesser manufacturers and are junk.
I've given up on trying to keep track - but with the recent move by both Seasonic and EVGA on their current PS lines, I might have to reconsider that position.
 
QuintLeo said:
Due to the move on the part of EVGA for the G3/P3/T3 line and the Seasonic move in the Prime/Focus line to "fancy name sleeve bearing fans" instead of the good LONG LASTING BALL BEARING fans of the G2/P2/T2 and X/SS lines, I refuse to even look at the current generation EVGA and Seasonic offerings.

Major bummer, as the X-series power supplies have been my "go-to" option with the G2 as my backup "go-to" option for years now, and I totally FAIL to understand how they can claim that ANY sleeve-bearing design can have a long lifespan.

Thank goodness the G2 series is still available a lot of the time, and even at a reasonable price if you are patient enough....


That Thermaltake model is ALSO a fancy name "sleeve bearing" design - anytime you see "hydraulic" as part of the description for the fan, it's sleeve bearing.


Corsair - varies. Some of their designs are made by Seasonic or Super Flower (EVGA G2/P2/T2 line was the Super Flower ":Leadex" platform), some are made by lesser manufacturers and are junk.
I've given up on trying to keep track - but with the recent move by both Seasonic and EVGA on their current PS lines, I might have to reconsider that position.
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G3 EVGA and Seaonic Prime and focus have a >= 10 year warranty. So does the Thermaltake 850 watt I bought.

When/if the fan fails - either replace the fan yourself, or just RMA the powersupply.
I'm not suspecting the fan will last 10 years with 24/7 use - but in reality - EVGA and Thermaltake and Seasonic must have some data to back up their choice of the hydraulic fans in a PSU coupled with a 10 year warranty.
I think thee doth protest too much.
 
QuintLeo said:
Due to the move on the part of EVGA for the G3/P3/T3 line and the Seasonic move in the Prime/Focus line to "fancy name sleeve bearing fans" instead of the good LONG LASTING BALL BEARING fans of the G2/P2/T2 and X/SS lines, I refuse to even look at the current generation EVGA and Seasonic offerings.

Major bummer, as the X-series power supplies have been my "go-to" option with the G2 as my backup "go-to" option for years now, and I totally FAIL to understand how they can claim that ANY sleeve-bearing design can have a long lifespan.

Thank goodness the G2 series is still available a lot of the time, and even at a reasonable price if you are patient enough....


That Thermaltake model is ALSO a fancy name "sleeve bearing" design - anytime you see "hydraulic" as part of the description for the fan, it's sleeve bearing.


Corsair - varies. Some of their designs are made by Seasonic or Super Flower (EVGA G2/P2/T2 line was the Super Flower ":Leadex" platform), some are made by lesser manufacturers and are junk.
I've given up on trying to keep track - but with the recent move by both Seasonic and EVGA on their current PS lines, I might have to reconsider that position.
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Hello Quintleo,

You often post about our fan's choice but we are still waiting something from you to back your point of view because right now, we don't see anything except the same message over and over and in the end...
Any feedback is always welcome.

Thanks.
Best Regards,
 
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