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Please explain it to me, why does the 6950X cost 200% of the 7900X ?! An inferior architecture on an inferior platform with the same cores / threads.

The same question could be asked in relation of the 6900K and the 7820X But the price difference there is only 155%. Which is still more than enough to get a x299 MB + the 7820X from the price of the 6900K and still have enough money left over for a two day bender.
 
M76 said:
Please explain it to me, why does the 6950X cost 200% of the 7900X ?! An inferior architecture on an inferior platform with the same cores / threads.

The same question could be asked in relation of the 6900K and the 7820X But the price difference there is only 155%. Which is still more than enough to get a x299 MB + the 7820X from the price of the 6900K and still have enough money left over for a two day bender.
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So that you don't buy them and realize there is not a huge difference in speed/money you just spent coming from a 6950x, that was not worth it? ;)
 
Dunno, but I bought a used 6950X for a good deal less than a new 7900X - and mine can overclock quite nicely to 4.4GHz on the core and 3.7GHz on the cache (1.363 vcore). Just fine for me as the latest big Intel chips were a slight step backwards for many games when compared with Broadwell-E (here's hoping Intel gets their new mesh working better with the refresh to hopefully remedy that slight step backwards).

Maybe I'm the only one?
 
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A 146GB SCSI HD can also still cost 500$+.

Older memory also tends to go up in price.
 
Lastan010 said:
The same reason why I still cant afford a new 2012 Ferrari or a lambo.
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A 2012 ferrari doesn't cost twice as a 2017 one with tons of updates compared to the old.

Araxie said:
Serious question?. hard to believe this can be any serious..
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Why exactly? Because it was their practice for years to not lower prices on older CPUs when a new generation is released? That doesn't make it any more reasonable this time around. And the difference was never in this magnitude. They wouldn't lower the price of the old significantly not to hurt the sales of the new one, but selling it for twice? It was a sane choice to not switch platforms and get the slightly pricier CPU. But at this price gap it's not a choice to anyone with half a brain. What do they intend to do with the parts sitting in storage somewhere, landfill? Because at this price it will certainly rot in the warehouses. Of course the real losers here are the retailers who already paid for it to Intel.


bwang said:
Because the 6950X is the fastest chip on a platform, and is desirable to people who want to upgrade their rigs without swapping out the board.
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Why would you do that when you CAN swap it out for a better one for half the cost? I'd find it hard to believe that anyone would find it desirable to pay 2000 for the same performance on an inferior platform that they can get for 1200 or a newer platform. Swapping out a MB is not that big a deal, even your windows install will survive it. But even if it's a big deal to you, you can certainly find a person who will do it for you for less than 800 :D.

Shintai said:
A 146GB SCSI HD can also still cost 500$+.

Older memory also tends to go up in price.
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Because there is still use for those, and there is no good alternative. You want to keep an old purpose built machine running you need to get compatible parts, because replacing the entire thing is more problematic, so it is worth it to pay for the pricier part to keep it together.
But there is no such motivation here. You get the 500 HDD because it would cost 5000 to build a new server for the same purpose. Hard to say it in this case. Intel basically killed the entire X99 platform market with the x299.
 
New always replaces old. And old always stays at same price unless someone dumps it. Its been this way forever as production stops. Cant see why its suddenly a surprise.

If you want cheap old CPUs, buy the Xeons datacenters throw out when they buy new Xeons.

You are not getting old software support cheap either, you have to pay out your nose.
 
Shintai said:
New always replaces old. And old always stays at same price unless someone dumps it. Its been this way forever as production stops. Cant see why its suddenly a surprise.

If you want cheap old CPUs, buy the Xeons datacenters throw out when they buy new Xeons.

You are not getting old software support cheap either, you have to pay out your nose.
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It's not about me, or what I want. Not everything is centered around the self. I'm just curious what are they trying to achieve by this, is it good for them that stocks get stuck for years to come? And as I said with previous generation changes the price difference wasn't high enough to offset an entire platform upgrade and even then have a ton leftover
 
M76 said:
It's not about me, or what I want. Not everything is centered around the self. I'm just curious what are they trying to achieve by this, is it good for them that stocks get stuck for years to come? And as I said with previous generation changes the price difference wasn't high enough to offset an entire platform upgrade and even then have a ton leftover
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They? You mean all the retail stores, OEMs and distributors?
 
New old stock at artificial price levels is a classic indicator of a monopoly or cartel with supply strangleholds. They really don't care about non-sales as they already recovered expenses on the old product, protecting the brand and keeping upward price pressure across all products is more important than a little profit from tiny slices of inventory.
 
Aluminum said:
New old stock at artificial price levels is a classic indicator of a monopoly or cartel with supply strangleholds. They really don't care about non-sales as they already recovered expenses on the old product, protecting the brand and keeping upward price pressure across all products is more important than a little profit from tiny slices of inventory.
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Uhm...

Lets see...manufactor stops producing. Retailer/OEM/whatever bought at X price. Retailer/OEM/whatever doesn't reduce price on their warehouse stock item and you claim its a monopoly or cartel?

It´s pretty much the same everywhere with everything. The only time you get lower price is if someone wants to dump their stock.
 
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