Fired Tesla Employees Claim Dismissals Were Not Performance Related

Ragenrok said:
How is a 6 year wait time good for business? That's a great way to lose customers to competitors, we have stolen so many customers from competition by saying "hey we can do the same thing for the same price and have it to you twice as fast". Unless your making some very special thing only you can make that's a terrible problem to have.
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Yea sort of off topic but my point is essentially that they didn't fire all of their marketing or sales people. Only part of the department. Production is at capacity. Waiting lists are full and growing. That makes marketing and sales a payroll liability. Tesla is like Apple now. Any new product is instantly sold out. Sure they did their job but they got paid for it. There is no loyalty in today's economy. Especially not for Musk's companies where he will cut you off if it means he can save 2% annually and throw that money into R&D or ramping up production capacity.

People want to point and say "see they are failing" when in reality Musk just likes to run a tight ship. Other companies might eat the cost of employing 700 people even if they don't necessarily need them but Musk takes a look at that and says "I can use this money better". Can you really blame him for that?
 
DigitalisAkujin said:
Yea sort of off topic but my point is essentially that they didn't fire all of their marketing or sales people. Only part of the department. Production is at capacity. Waiting lists are full and growing. That makes marketing and sales a payroll liability. Tesla is like Apple now. Any new product is instantly sold out. Sure they did their job but they got paid for it. There is no loyalty in today's economy. Especially not for Musk's companies where he will cut you off if it means he can save 2% annually and throw that money into R&D or ramping up production capacity.

People want to point and say "see they are failing" when in reality Musk just likes to run a tight ship. Other companies might eat the cost of employing 700 people even if they don't necessarily need them but Musk takes a look at that and says "I can use this money better". Can you really blame him for that?
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Nothing wrong with that either, it makes total sense for a company to axe employees when they can be replaced by someone for a much smaller salary. I've been with my company for 4 years now and survived 2 layoffs (one small and one major). Both by being good at my job and by willing to take a pay cut. During our mass layoff my boss told be in a good employee but they pay me a lot (and they did lol), if I'm willing to take a 10% pay cut and agree to not use my company truck for personal use that I'll be fine. Economy was going through a very bad patch but we survived it and things are good again.
 
oldmanbal said:
I bet most of these people were convinced their job security was going to be a non-factor upon on-boarding.
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Reminds me of pre-1987 Hewlett Packard. Folks said outright they had a job for life ... a year later early retirement incentives and then firings
 
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