Streaming Exclusivity Wars Risk Driving Users Back to Piracy

Who would have thought people wouldn't pay $6 a month for 1 TV show WITH commericals? I'll wait for the Bluray to get to $10.
 
dwd999 said:
Beyond that, I can see a lot of people go back to antennas for the primary network stations and then choosing a few subscriptions like CBS All Access and Disney for extra content.
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this is what I've done and it's working out great.
 
Koolthulu said:
Who would have thought people wouldn't pay $6 a month for 1 TV show WITH commericals? I'll wait for the Bluray to get to $10.
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Pretty much my plan. Most of these new shows will be on physical media at some point. Then that media will be on sale during a BF or similar sale. Still have a couple hundred hours of stuff on disk that I haven't watched yet. And if a show doesn't make it to disk for some reason, then I probably didn't need to watch it anyway.

Monthly fees, especially the ones that demand auto withdraw from some account, are a pox on budgets.
 
Yeah, CBS can kiss my *** and in a year-Disney too. I'm just as mad at the jerks that pay these ransoms and thus encourage the sustainability of this business model.
 
HenryBravo said:
This premiere episode of Star Trek: Discovery was freely and widely available in the United States on all local CBS stations. In Canada, it was on CTV and the Space Channel. Everywhere else in the world, it aired on Netflix the next day. Netflix is a platform that almost everyone who streams anything is already using. So to use this show as an example of the "paying for too many streaming services causes piracy" argument seems a bit premature, don't you think? Most of the world will watch it on Netflix. It was in the top 10 list of pirated shows for a variety of other reasons.
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It was in the top 10 pirated shows because that's the only way most people can get it. From you post you seem to believe Netflix is a Giant that rules the world. Netflix Just broke 100 million subscribers world wide. 51 million in the US and 49 million for the rest of the world. 49 million total subs distributed over how many countries, that is very low penetration. Out of a billion or two people who might want to watch it only 49 million can. Most of the world does not get Netflix .

http://fortune.com/2017/06/15/netflix-more-subscribers-than-cable/
 
If you know where to find this stuff and get at least 720p then why give your hard earned green to these people? I watched 2 episodes of this show and really was not impressed. Sure it looked like the reboots, big deal. I can go on with life not ever seeing another Star Trek series. I will never pay for this shit, EVER. This seems like another crowd funding scam to me. Besides if this is going to be internet only then i want to see tits/ass and hear swearing. God damn it.
 
NickJames said:
But CBS is charging $6 and people still won't pay it. You could charge $2/month and people aren't going to pay it. It's about convenience of 1 platform, I shouldn't need 4 different apps on my phone to stream my favorite shows. It's why I just put everything on Plex because fuck that noise.
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CBS is charging $6 WITH ADS. $10 without ads. And pretty much everything on all access is available elsewhere. And I agree on the separate service bit, Amazon is trying to make that simpler via their channel model and already have all the major services signed up except CBS.
 
All these new streaming services are a terrible idea. People don't want to subscribe to multiple services - just license to Netflix (or maybe Hulu?) and cut your piracy rate down by huge amounts.
I'd be willing to pay a little more for Netflix if I could watch shows like GoT, American Gods, etc. Instead, I have to get Starz, HBO Go, CBS, Disney - fuck that. I'm not doing it. It's too damned annoying.
 
Article is spot on...

I pirate TV shows... Pretty much entirely because netflix/content creators reduced content on Netflix. Netflix added their own shows, good ones at that, but fragmentation started to get worse instead of better with hulu etc. I then pirated a show or 2 and getting the rest was trivial so dropped netflix since their older filler content got less/worse.

I would pay more, I would even pay for bundles or channels etc just to have my content available in the same place with the same app across my devices. That option isn't there so I just spent more on faster internet and services that shall not be named to get all the content I want shown via Kodi the single interface I wanted.
 
wait.. am i seeing this right, that even with CBS live tv, i dont get to watch the new star trek past the 1st episode?? i dont see it on their sunday live TV schedule.

is it seriously ONLY on their web service??
 
bman212121 said:
Are you recording OTA? If you are then getting the content on demand is generally a few more pennies. Usually members on here can get the equipment for cheap or repurpose something they already have, but if I were to build the setup required to record and stream tv, it's going to cost a few hundred dollars to do so. Computer + Tuner of some kind + software doesn't come cheap. I'm planning to jump into OTA at some point, but there definitely is a barrier of entry for me in that I'll likely need to sink at least $200 to get the equipment needed to pull in stations since I'm not sitting on top of the towers.
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I built a DVR several years ago when the cable company dropped analog the analog channels.
Low power i3, 4GB ram, and windows 7 home with media center. I later upgraded to a 4 channel tuner with a cable card when they started scrambling all the channels.
Also added larger drives over the years. Have a small SSD for the system drive and a 4TB drive for TV shows that the family keeps filling up. :eek:
It's more than paid for itself considering how many years it's been in use, and compared to the cost of a DVR from the cable company.
It's also easy enough for the wife/family to use.
I can also watch the recorded TV shows from other computers in the house, as I have the folder shared out.
 
Why don't they just have one easy fast service available everywhere where you can buy individual episodes for a dollar each.
 
maxz01 said:
Why don't they just have one easy fast service available everywhere where you can buy individual episodes for a dollar each.
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Because copyright laws are totally, heavily slanted towards creators/ owners. Specifically the parts about distribution rights.
 
NickJames said:
But CBS is charging $6 and people still won't pay it. You could charge $2/month and people aren't going to pay it. It's about convenience of 1 platform, I shouldn't need 4 different apps on my phone to stream my favorite shows. It's why I just put everything on Plex because fuck that noise.
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2 dollars a month is still high if your only watching for one show. Think of it this way. I can buy HD BlueRay of a season of GOT for 27$. as 2$ a month that is 24$ a year to rent it. It just doesn't work and is literally the only show on CBS i'd even think of watching. Plus now they are charging me and giving me adds. NBC managed to feed me their shows with ads at no extra cost and their content is overall way, way better.
 
I can't imagine paying money to see yet another prequel reboot so poorly conceived and lazily written. The commanding officers are totally dysfunctional and do not behave as if they have served together for seven years. I was rooting for the Klingons to kill them all so the show will be cancelled. Then we can get a show about Quark's bar instead.
 
I would pay 10$ for access to ST:Discovery on CBS:AA. If it was just that series, and for life.

I won't pay 6$ a month for that shit. But if they give the option of paying for access to the show, in perpetuity? (Or at least for the duration of the show plus 2-3 years) I'd probably do it.

Same for GoT. HBO, gimme the option of 20$ to access GoT on your platform, and I'm motherfucking in.
 
Yeah, I am not adding more and more monthly payments.
I wish the price per season in say Amazon would drop.. and really it should.. it is not a consideration for me at current prices.
For shows I really like it would be a serious consideration at 10$ a season (I mean I really REALLY like) and for 4.99 a season it would be a very easy decision, and probably would buy stuff even if I am not sure about.
BTW I am enjoying The Orville quite a bit.
I have hulu, netflix and prime.. I may change one for another, but it is very unlikely I will add any more.
 
mashie said:
I really wish VUDU streaming was available here in the UK. The only streaming service I would be happy to pay for since they are on the technological bleeding edge with Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision.
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That reminds me also how the region divisions with streaming and discs are totally out of control. From Star Trek in UK netflix, no new Red Dwarf(last year Dave would not let me stream) here in the states, and then VUDU which has a number of Disney 3d exclusives here but can only otherwise be ordered on disc from UK. I'm part of the niche that likes the combo 3d/4k packs and I'm starting to lose track how many I'm ordering from Europe at this point. It's really looking like I need to read up on a good VPN at some point. . . .
 
Pirate Bay even still exists? I have not heard of it in years.
 
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