Given the current price inflation - would it make more sense to ...

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dvsman

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... just buy a Frontier card w/ 16gb for a few extra $$$ vs paying the markup on a regular 8gb VEGA card?

Would performance be basically the same, but with more spare VRAM?
 
I'm hoping I can get an answer from one of the AMD experts on here :-D
 
Archaea said:
If it's like the 14th, they'll have 3-4 cards per microcenter store. Better get there early.
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Oh I will be there at 8am waiting! I have a doctor appointment so I took the morning off to ensure I could get there early enough to get 2.
 
ccityinstaller said:
Oh I will be there at 8am waiting! I have a doctor appointment so I took the morning off to ensure I could get there early enough to get 2.
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Not to rain on your parade, but I was at the 14th launch at the local microcenter. They only allowed one per customer.

To make it worse, as I mentioned there were only four cards there, and the management said two were reserved. So they sold two cards at the Overland Park Kansas Microcenter on August 14. One Gigabyte and one XFX. I got the XFX, which I'm taking back unopened since I just "lucked" into the ( now $800 ...grrrr ) liquid cooled variant at newegg tonight. That's the card I had my heart set on though.

I had a fantastic experience with my Fury X crossfire the last year and my freesync monitors. But do note: at this time Vega doesn't support Crossfire - if that is your intent. I think I saw Kyle (or maybe someone else say - can't remember) it was likely 30-60 days out.
 
I pulled the trigger on the RX56 from Newegg on Friday for $499. +$100 bucks over MSRP but +2 games, so I'm paying $50 per game - which I'm hoping to recoup at least some little bit by selling. I'm guessing they are just emailed redemption codes so shouldn't be too big a deal.

According to Newegg, it should be shipping Tuesday (Monday is Labor Day holiday here in the USA). So it should be a fun little addition to my mini / NCASE build. Will report back once I get things sorted.
 
They had 2 at the Microcenter in my area even though the website didn't have anything listed. Was going for $599 though; no thanks.

I would've probably done it if they were doing the Black Pack with the CPU/MOBO and Monitor discounts but they weren't.

Anyone know of any places that are actually participating in the pack besides Newegg where some of their stuff is already marked up?
 
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The 64? No such luck. I looked around myself when I stumbled on the passable 56 deal I mentioned above on Newegg.
 
Just read a review on the Asus Strix in guru3d that barely matched a 1080. Not really sure why people are buying these at $700. Makes no sense to me! Why not buy 1080ti which is way faster for the same price???
 
i have heard of a few people buying vega to mine, but if you watch newegg and amazon rx 5xx and 4xx cards can be picked up around 230-250$ so i can not imagine that gobs of miners are buying vega. BUT yes, the pricing even on vega, is higher than it should be, due to miners.
 
You can be both, game and when not mine. Right now the Vega 64 is mining while I do other stuff. I now also have a dedicated mining rig as well going 24/7. In other words you can be both and $700 can potentially be recouped.
 
noko said:
You can be both, game and when not mine. Right now the Vega 64 is mining while I do other stuff. I now also have a dedicated mining rig as well going 24/7. In other words you can be both and $700 can potentially be recouped.
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You can game better and make more money with 1080ti @ $700.
 
_chesebert_ said:
You can game better and make more money with 1080ti @ $700.
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I also own a 1080 Ti and yes better mining, better performance in general for gaming except no Freesync - :rolleyes:

I can live happily together with both :)
 
Archaea said:
Not to rain on your parade, but I was at the 14th launch at the local microcenter. They only allowed one per customer.

To make it worse, as I mentioned there were only four cards there, and the management said two were reserved. So they sold two cards at the Overland Park Kansas Microcenter on August 14. One Gigabyte and one XFX. I got the XFX, which I'm taking back unopened since I just "lucked" into the ( now $800 ...grrrr ) liquid cooled variant at newegg tonight. That's the card I had my heart set on though.

I had a fantastic experience with my Fury X crossfire the last year and my freesync monitors. But do note: at this time Vega doesn't support Crossfire - if that is your intent. I think I saw Kyle (or maybe someone else say - can't remember) it was likely 30-60 days out.
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Where is no crossfire support for Vega coming from? Mine works when it wants to for my Vega FE cards in both BF1 and BF4 and scales really nice.
 
Plus the drivers for any of the Vega cards are pretty much shit right now. I am hoping that the new pro driver being released Wed will clean some stuff up.
 
Yep, waiting on CF support myself. So far I've been playing some old games (like RAGE) or indie titles I can hit 4K60 on 1 RX Vega.

One game I really want to try is >observer_ but I know that game brings the 1080 Ti to it's knees at 4K (granted even RX Vega CF probably won't suffice, but maybe on medium settings).
 
I'm kind of jonesing to do a Ryzen / Vega 56 build even tho my primary rig is a 5930K / 1080Ti.

AMD is back on their game lately and it's just so cool to see them kicking Intel in the balls and putting some heat on Nvidia (or at least they they will once they can ship enough cards)

I totally couldn't justify it because my Intel rig is great, but if I were building today it would be AMD all the way :)
 
Zinn said:
I'm kind of jonesing to do a Ryzen / Vega 56 build even tho my primary rig is a 5930K / 1080Ti.

AMD is back on their game lately and it's just so cool to see them kicking Intel in the balls and putting some heat on Nvidia (or at least they they will once they can ship enough cards)

I totally couldn't justify it because my Intel rig is great, but if I were building today it would be AMD all the way :)
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More rigs the better! Have a Widescreen rig and VR, another with 4K then of course a big screen rig in the living room while another rig makes money hopefully mining. Just can't do that with one especially if you have kids and wife that like to hog things - more then yourself that is. Anyways the main reason I went with multiple machines was pass downs from one machine to the next. Upgrade one and you end up with two machines upgraded so to speak or more.
 
I was in the same boat, Zinn. Given the reviews on Ryzen, I wanted to do a build to see what was up. So far I'm pretty happy with it. Admittedly, I don't play alot of games, so I really can't give a good gamer's perspective (only really play ESO at the moment) but in general-use it's as fast as my big rig.

As for ESO - Elder Scrolls Online - from looking at the FPS counter, the Vega 56 8gb @ 2560x1600 using latest drivers is surprisingly slower than my Titan X Maxwell 12gb. The Nvidia was pegging 60fps consistently - while the Vega was pulling high 40s. However, the BIG gotcha is that my AMD / NCASE rig is setup with 2 monitors running an extended desktop. The game runs on the main screen (Dell 3011) and a youtube video is usually running on the secondary 24" 1080p screen. Both the Titan and the Vega were run this way.

The thing is, from my earlier reading, people said that the Titan X Maxwell should be a touch slower than a 1070, which should also be on par with or slower than the Vega 56. Will have to look into this to see if there are any optimizations that I can do.
 
dvsman said:
I was in the same boat, Zinn. Given the reviews on Ryzen, I wanted to do a build to see what was up. So far I'm pretty happy with it. Admittedly, I don't play alot of games, so I really can't give a good gamer's perspective (only really play ESO at the moment) but in general-use it's as fast as my big rig.

As for ESO - Elder Scrolls Online - from looking at the FPS counter, the Vega 56 8gb @ 2560x1600 using latest drivers is surprisingly slower than my Titan X Maxwell 12gb. The Nvidia was pegging 60fps consistently - while the Vega was pulling high 40s. However, the BIG gotcha is that my AMD / NCASE rig is setup with 2 monitors running an extended desktop. The game runs on the main screen (Dell 3011) and a youtube video is usually running on the secondary 24" 1080p screen. Both the Titan and the Vega were run this way.

The thing is, from my earlier reading, people said that the Titan X Maxwell should be a touch slower than a 1070, which should also be on par with or slower than the Vega 56. Will have to look into this to see if there are any optimizations that I can do.
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Are you running fullscreen or borderless window? Longshot, but running borderless can really bog down performance in some games (*cough*Fallout 4)

My 5930k rig is currently pulling double duty. I have a 60hz 4k monitor plugged in on one desk for productivity and a 144hz ROG Swift on another desk for gaming. If I did a Ryzen build I'd probably keep the 5930k on gaming duty and use the Ryzen / 4K monitor to run my VM and productivity apps. Probably a Vega 56 would be overkill for that, but I'm also curious to see how well it mines.

Now, the only real problem is, even if I somehow snagged a Vega 56 at $399, my husband would kill me if I buy another computer.
 
It's windowed fullscreen in both cases. For an MMO anything above 30s is fine for me as long as it's constant / smooth. If any of my monitors die anytime soon, I might give Free or GSync a try out. Anyway, the cheapo mini itx Biostar mobo has been acting flakey (won't hold XMP 3200 and onboard audio is staticky AF) so I'm about to swap it out for the Asrock mitx I just got - just have to find some time to do the transplant (since that box is sitting on my desk in my office / work).

BTW: how's the Rog 144hz - any regerts? Or works great as advertised?
 
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