Microsoft being more transparent with telemetry data use.

BulletDust said:
Shut down Windows update? I hardly see that as a solution outside the enterprise environment.
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Controlling updates is one of the major complaints about Windows 10 and it is the way enterprises run it. I wouldn't recommend it for the average user but it is an option for those who want to do this manually.


BulletDust said:
Once again, the point is that as an OS Android does not spy on it's users.
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But what does that effectively mean even if it's true and I've yet to see any conclusive evidence from an authoritative source that Android is totally silent when it comes to telemetry. And as a practical manner, the idea that a device that gets much of its capability from sharing personal data isn't "spying" runs counter to the point of the device. And even if everything you say is true and you go through all of the procedures outlined, the device is still tracking every standard voice call made.

There's just no way to look at Windows 10 as "spyware" and call a modern smartphone "not spyware", not in the default form of generally how a smartphone is used.
 
heatlesssun said:
Controlling updates is one of the major complaints about Windows 10 and it is the way enterprises run it. I wouldn't recommend it for the average user but it is an option for those who want to do this manually.




But what does that effectively mean even if it's true and I've yet to see any conclusive evidence from an authoritative source that Android is totally silent when it comes to telemetry. And as a practical manner, the idea that a device that gets much of its capability from sharing personal data isn't "spying" runs counter to the point of the device. And even if everything you say is true and you go through all of the procedures outlined, the device is still tracking every standard voice call made.

There's just no way to look at Windows 10 as "spyware" and call a modern smartphone "not spyware", not in the default form of generally how a smartphone is used.
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It is true!

See? Once again you're having the last say based around flawed opinion and yet in a private discussion with ManOfGod that was accidentally sent to me you claimed that I was the individual with this issue! You claim to be a coder for a major bank, go through the code on AOSP and find evidence that as an OS Android shares a users private data? I don't know how much more transparent you can get than that?

If you're going to keep trying to push the same rhetoric than I'm just not interested. I made my point and it still stands.
 
heatlesssun said:
There's just no way to look at Windows 10 as "spyware" and call a modern smartphone "not spyware", not in the default form of generally how a smartphone is used.
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You keep repeating the whataboutism. False equivalencies are bullshit. Whataboutism is bullshit. Google's sins don't excuse Microsoft's.
 
schizo said:
You keep repeating the whataboutism. False equivalencies are bullshit. Whataboutism is bullshit. Google's sins don't excuse Microsoft's.
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This isn't a matter of sins, it's a matter of a holistic view of privacy. There a billions of smartphones and millions of other devices that share a lot personal information. Either one is concerned about it all or not really. And this isn't really me talking, we go through privacy training at the bank, they take this stuff VERY seriously. It's simply a matter that's more far more involved than anyone product or device.
 
heatlesssun said:
This isn't a matter of sins, it's a matter of a holistic view of privacy. There a billions of smartphones and millions of other devices that share a lot personal information. Either one is concerned about it all or not really. And this isn't really me talking, we go through privacy training at the bank, they take this stuff VERY seriously. It's simply a matter that's more far more involved than anyone product or device.
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This really shouldn't be such a hardthink concept to grasp: that I may or may not be sharing some measured amount of personal or anonymized information with a smartphone or other mobile device does not create in me any sense of obligation to provide Microsoft a blank check to my PC's data.

You can continue to go in an autistic circle insisting "the sky is green" on this issue because you own MSFT stock or some other weird hidden agenda, but them's the facts, jack.
 
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DPI said:
This really shouldn't be such a hardthink concept to grasp: that I may or may not be sharing some measured amount of personal or anonymized information with a smartphone or other mobile device does not create in me any sense of obligation to provide Microsoft a blank check to my PC's data.
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How many phone calls have been made on smartphones just today that were no way, shape or form anonymous? In any case, Windows 10 haters are going to be haters.
 
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