Man Who Leaked The Revenant Online Fined $1.1M

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You know what would be fun? Losing your job, paying $1.12 million in restitution, home detention for eight months and two years of probation just so you can be "cool" and upload a movie to the internet. :rolleyes:

A man who leaked The Revenant online in advance of its theatrical release has been fined $1.1m. Former studio employee William Kyle Morarity stole copies of the movies while working on a studio lot and uploaded them to private tracker Pass The Popcorn. He also faces eight months’ home detention and 24 months’ probation.
 
widipedia should update their page for idiot, and just show this guys picture.
 
Guy is unemployed, and unlikely to find another job except maybe flipping burgers.
I doubt they will ever collect even 10% of that $1.12 million fine.
Maybe they could garnish his wages, should only take around 200 years to collect it.
 
Teenyman45 said:
And this heinous criminal's act is apparently worse and more deserving of jail time than the executives who orchestrated the opening of 2MM+ fraudulent bank and credit card accounts at Wells Fargo.
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This x 1000
 
Right? Next they're going to push to make him register as a sex offender. I wouldn't put anything past copyright lawyers.
 
Time to go off the grid, idiot. Make them find you. Stay off the net, pay only cash etc
 
Burticus said:
Time to go off the grid, idiot. Make them find you. Stay off the net, pay only cash etc
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And this is why so many of the "elites" want to eliminate cash.
They have already started eliminating high value bills by saying they are used in drug deals. Much harder to move a million $ in drug transactions if you have to use $20's.
Of course the drug lords will just use gold/diamonds/etc. and the person trying to buy a used car will have to start carrying a brief case full of 10's and 20's.

Without cash they can monitor/control every transaction. It will become impossible to go "off the grid" unless you are going to live in the woods and grow your own food.
 
nutzo said:
And this is why so many of the "elites" want to eliminate cash.
They have already started eliminating high value bills by saying they are used in drug deals. Much harder to move a million $ in drug transactions if you have to use $20's.
Of course the drug lords will just use gold/diamonds/etc. and the person trying to buy a used car will have to start carrying a brief case full of 10's and 20's.

Without cash they can monitor/control every transaction. It will become impossible to go "off the grid" unless you are going to live in the woods and grow your own food.
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This was prophesied about 2,000 years ago.

Revelation 13:16-17
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
 
Teenyman45 said:
And this heinous criminal's act is apparently worse and more deserving of jail time than the executives who orchestrated the opening of 2MM+ fraudulent bank and credit card accounts at Wells Fargo.
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Well you see, if you're rich you get away with it. When you're a guy that leaks a movie on the internet then you get to pay an impossible 1 million dollar fine. And what does this do for those pirating it? Absolutely nothing as the movie will be uploaded one way or another.
 
This is why the justice system is screwed. Worse crimes have receive lesser penalties. This is a fucking movie, and its not like the lost any money from it being leaked.
 
Teenyman45 said:
And this heinous criminal's act is apparently worse and more deserving of jail time than the executives who orchestrated the opening of 2MM+ fraudulent bank and credit card accounts at Wells Fargo.
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I mean - I get what you're saying but a crime is still a crime.
 
nvgrim said:
This is why the justice system is screwed. Worse crimes have receive lesser penalties. This is a fucking movie, and its not like the lost any money from it being leaked.
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Ironically, it could have generated more interest and more cash.
 
Teenyman45 said:
Over half the music CDs I have owned were because I first heard the songs on napster.
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Fair enough, but with all of the free music services out there, there's no reason for trial-by-piracy these days, so that's somewhat irrelevant.
 
Quick note: this wasn't a DMCA case. He got hit on these sections of copyright law for uploading The Revenant and The Peanuts Movie, specifically due to The Revenant being "leaked" (as the kids say) before distribution:

17:506(a)(1)( C)
(C)
by the distribution of a work being prepared for commercial distribution, by making it available on a computer network accessible to members of the public, if such person knew or should have known that the work was intended for commercial distribution.

18:2319(a),(d)(1)
(a)
Any person who violates section 506(a) (relating to criminal offenses) of title 17 shall be punished as provided in subsections (b), (c), and (d) and such penalties shall be in addition to any other provisions of title 17 or any other law.

(d)Any person who commits an offense under section 506(a)(1)(C) of title 17—
(1)
shall be imprisoned not more than 3 years, fined under this title, or both;
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It was a criminal, not civil, case.
 
nutzo said:
Guy is unemployed, and unlikely to find another job except maybe flipping burgers.
I doubt they will ever collect even 10% of that $1.12 million fine.
Maybe they could garnish his wages, should only take around 200 years to collect it.
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Last night I was talking with my kid, got on a similar subject, how much my wife and I have now in savings and assets vs what we have made since 1993. Our gross since '93 is well in excess of $2.3 million. Our total assets come to perhaps $600 thousand. So we have gone through $1.7 million in one way or another over the last 23 years.
 
Teenyman45 said:
And this heinous criminal's act is apparently worse and more deserving of jail time than the executives who orchestrated the opening of 2MM+ fraudulent bank and credit card accounts at Wells Fargo.
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Not saying there shouldn't be more fines, but AFAIK the Wells Fargo CEO just gave back roughly $41M in earnings.
 
-Strelok- said:
Not saying there shouldn't be more fines, but AFAIK the Wells Fargo CEO just gave back roughly $41M in earnings.
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A mere modest part of his pay package. Man should be in jail. If somebody can go to jail for uploading a movie (pre-release or post-release) and people go to jail daily for a single act of check kiting then he and many others like him should be locked up for a long, long time.
 
jbltecnicspro said:
Fair enough, but with all of the free music services out there, there's no reason for trial-by-piracy these days, so that's somewhat irrelevant.
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That's not totally true. Though selections are improving, a vast amount of content is still locked behind deals and licensing. If I can't find it on Youtube, then I'll find it on Soulseek. I generally use Soulseek to obtain rarer BBC recordings/bootlegs than actual albums.
 
jbltecnicspro said:
Fair enough, but with all of the free music services out there, there's no reason for trial-by-piracy these days, so that's somewhat irrelevant.
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What are these free services where you can listen to any music without buying first?
 
He'll have to declare backrupcy. That or flee to a country that's not a friend of the USA.
 
M76 said:
What are these free services where you can listen to any music without buying first?
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Spotify, pandora, YouTube. Any enterprising individual can find stuff without illegal means. YouTube is a little spotty because I believe it's illegal for people to upload stuff without permission, but not illegal to listen to it. Even iTunes gives you a generous 1:30 of free listening of each song (for the most part).
 
jbltecnicspro said:
Spotify, pandora, YouTube. Any enterprising individual can find stuff without illegal means. YouTube is a little spotty because I believe it's illegal for people to upload stuff without permission, but not illegal to listen to it. Even iTunes gives you a generous 1:30 of free listening of each song (for the most part).
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Spotify only lets you listen to random garbage if you don't have premium. It redirects you to a "radio" related to your search. I never heard of pandora but I will check it out.And as you said it most music on youtube is not exactly legal. And you generate ad revenue to the illegal uploader by listening to the music there. So it might even be worse than simple piracy.
But it's true in the past 10 years the only music I pirated were the studio 33 mixes, that were bootleg releases to begin with.
 
M76 said:
Spotify only lets you listen to random garbage if you don't have premium. It redirects you to a "radio" related to your search. I never heard of pandora but I will check it out.And as you said it most music on youtube is not exactly legal. And you generate ad revenue to the illegal uploader by listening to the music there. So it might even be worse than simple piracy.
But it's true in the past 10 years the only music I pirated were the studio 33 mixes, that were bootleg releases to begin with.
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Pandora is similar to spotify but even more restrictive I believe. The only way you can hear before you buy is iTunes and other online record stores, but only for a small amount of time. Only other thing I can think of is physically going to a store and listening there.
 
-Strelok- said:
Not saying there shouldn't be more fines, but AFAIK the Wells Fargo CEO just gave back roughly $41M in earnings.
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$41 million in stock awards. He still gets his ~5 million dollar salary and will keep his job I'm sure.

Steve said:
You know what would be fun? Losing your job, paying $1.12 million in restitution, home detention for eight months and two years of probation just so you can be "cool" and upload a movie to the internet. :rolleyes:

A man who leaked The Revenant online in advance of its theatrical release has been fined $1.1m. Former studio employee William Kyle Morarity stole copies of the movies while working on a studio lot and uploaded them to private tracker Pass The Popcorn. He also faces eight months’ home detention and 24 months’ probation.
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That's a totally deserved punishment! I mean Revenant was so clearly hurt from this piracy as it ONLY grossed 530 million. I don't know how Leo will ever feed his fleet of models on his yacht.
 
jbltecnicspro said:
Fair enough, but with all of the free music services out there, there's no reason for trial-by-piracy these days, so that's somewhat irrelevant.
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Sure, if you like Katy Perry and Taylor Swift there are tons of places that have that. Show me a place, in America, that has a decent collection of Joe Hisaishi or Kenji Kawai....Joe who??? Or the 1st Deep Forest album, it got radio play here in the US back in the mid 90's and now it's almost impossible to find. Or if you want a popular American artist/band example, try listening to Garth Brooks or Tool online. It's not going to happen.
 
westrock2000 said:
Sure, if you like Katy Perry and Taylor Swift there are tons of places that have that. Show me a place, in America, that has a decent collection of Joe Hisaishi or Kenji Kawai....Joe who??? Or the 1st Deep Forest album, it got radio play here in the US back in the mid 90's and now it's almost impossible to find. Or if you want a popular American artist/band example, try listening to Garth Brooks or Tool online. It's not going to happen.
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How did you come to know those artists?
 
-Strelok- said:
Not saying there shouldn't be more fines, but AFAIK the Wells Fargo CEO just gave back roughly $41M in earnings.
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Fines??? They were knowingly stealing money from customers. Try stealing $5 million dollars from Wells Fargo and let me know what kind of fines you get.

Shouldn't be too surprising since Wells Fargo, like the Gates Foundation, is invested in the privatized prison industry. Do as we say, not as we do.
 
jbltecnicspro said:
How did you come to know those artists?
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Deep Forest, Garth Brooks & Tool from hearing on the radio and then going and buying albums. I think with Tool I did listen a little bit online before jumping in because their style is borderline to my tastes. Japanese composers, from downloading blindly on file sharing forums and checking it out. I have purchased several dozen albums either because the album was just that good, or because I could only find low quality online and wanted better quality. Most of that stuff is either out of print and not findable or is cost prohibitive ($40-$100 per album for used).
 
Just saw on the local news where a guy sexually molests a 13 year old and gets 90 days in jail. And here this guy is leaking a shitty movie and getting prosecuted to the full extent of the law. This country is fucked.
 
westrock2000 said:
Sure, if you like Katy Perry and Taylor Swift there are tons of places that have that. Show me a place, in America, that has a decent collection of Joe Hisaishi or Kenji Kawai....Joe who??? Or the 1st Deep Forest album, it got radio play here in the US back in the mid 90's and now it's almost impossible to find. Or if you want a popular American artist/band example, try listening to Garth Brooks or Tool online. It's not going to happen.
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Well to be fair you can find tons of albums uploaded to youtube
 
nvgrim said:
Well to be fair you can find tons of albums uploaded to youtube
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Sure, the original argument was that everything is available through legit sources online so you don't need to go with "illegal" sources....such as YouTube. My counter was that there is a lot, but not all :)

Actually I'll rephrase that, he said you don't have to sample through illegal sources because you can do it through official outlets.
 
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