Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice Final Trailer

For me, this entire franchise was wrecked the second they picked Zak Snyder to direct. He is almost as bad as Brett Ratner, a no talent hack with a grab bag of slow motion and instagram filters to make his movies look 'cool'.

I mean look at that trailer, its in 1080p and looks like something I'd watch in the 90's on a Trinitron. No thank you, I'll catch it on netflix next year.
 
While they might be trying to shove too much into it, I'm not upset they didn't have a solo batman movie for this new batman. I'm tired of seeing the Waynes gunned down in the street. I get it already, rich guy, chip on shoulder with badass gadgets. I don't need that origin again, even with a slightly different spin.

I agree with that, we don't need another origin movie (everybody and their dog knows Batman's origin by now). But something that lays down how this Batman fits into this universe would be good. A movie that explained what drove Batman into retirement would be cool. I'm sure they'll touch upon it during B vs S, but it will likely be glossed over or another aspect of the movie will be glossed over to fit into a detailed account of his retirement.

Also agree with the observation that DoomsDay looks pretty generic and bad. Mind you, I remember the comic version of DoomsDay looking pretty generic and bad too. From the trailer, it appears that DoomsDay will be a 'Zombie Zod'? I'm hoping if this is the case, they'll retain some of Zod's personality, he was a highlight from Man of Steel for me.
 
Doomsday was this huge, multi franchise, several comic story. Going from Justice League to Superman. Hopefully he isn't like Venom in Spiderman 3 and just a quick defeat. Doomsday was the death of Superman (well, kinda...). He's not some simple bad guy that Luthor created. I just hope they do him justice.
Yeah I wouldn't hold your breath on this one, movies pretty much rape the shit of comic book canon, 10:1 he's some creature made from general Zod's dead body in some way.
 
Yeah I wouldn't hold your breath on this one, movies pretty much rape the shit of comic book canon, 10:1 he's some creature made from general Zod's dead body in some way.

Yea, trailer already gave that part away... Shit happens, and maybe it would work that way (not officially canon, but it could be ok...). I just want him to be hell unleashed, Superman is shit in comparison, everyone is fucked from this pure evil, unstoppable creation.
 
While they might be trying to shove too much into it, I'm not upset they didn't have a solo batman movie for this new batman. I'm tired of seeing the Waynes gunned down in the street. I get it already, rich guy, chip on shoulder with badass gadgets. I don't need that origin again, even with a slightly different spin.

Ditto we don't need another batman movie there has been enough.

Batman 1966
Batman 1989
Batman Returns 1992
Batman Forever 1995
Batman & Robin 1997
Batman Begins 2005
The Dark Knight 2008
The Dark Knight Rises 2012
 
Kryptonite laced Bat Armor.

I find the fact that everyone and their mother can get a whole of Kryptonite kinda stupid. Its pieces of a shattered planets many millions of light years away yet so much of it is on earth. Too much exposure to Kryptonite gives humans cancers.

The supergirl show has the same issue.

Something that is suppose to be so exotic is just available to everyone in the corner store.
 
I find the fact that everyone and their mother can get a whole of Kryptonite kinda stupid. Its pieces of a shattered planets many millions of light years away yet so much of it is on earth. Too much exposure to Kryptonite gives humans cancers.

The supergirl show has the same issue.

Something that is suppose to be so exotic is just available to everyone in the corner store.

Well it makes sense for the DEO to have access to it in Supergirl. Superman has been active for several years and alien threats have been a thing on that version of Earth for a long time as well. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd already faced threats like Zod or other survivors of Krypton, not to mention the concern of what would happen if Superman ever turned evil. The availability of Kryptonite has always been played fast and loose when it comes to Superman comics and other stories.

That said, if anyone could get their hands on Kryptonite it would be Bruce Wayne, especially if Lex is really behind the two fighting. I could see Lex providing Bats with the means to stop Superman.
 
Well it makes sense for the DEO to have access to it in Supergirl. Superman has been active for several years and alien threats have been a thing on that version of Earth for a long time as well. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd already faced threats like Zod or other survivors of Krypton, not to mention the concern of what would happen if Superman ever turned evil. The availability of Kryptonite has always been played fast and loose when it comes to Superman comics and other stories.

That said, if anyone could get their hands on Kryptonite it would be Bruce Wayne, especially if Lex is really behind the two fighting. I could see Lex providing Bats with the means to stop Superman.

I blame superman for not using his status to start a cult whose only job was to gather Kryptonite fragments and either destroy them or shoot them back into space.
 
I have to say, I was dreading Batfleck, but he seems to be pulling it off "alright". That beginning fight scene was actually really good. Very physical, you can feel the punches.
 
I hope this is a good movie. I am actually starting to get a bit tired of the Avenger movies.
 
I hope this is a good movie. I am actually starting to get a bit tired of the Avenger movies.

Yeah, I'm feeling burned out by the Avengers too. Age of Ultron in particular was disappointing for me. Here's hoping Spider-man will give that franchise a shot in the arm.
 
[QUOTE="How do you figure Batman blocks Superman’s punch at the end? Is he juicing with Kryptonite?[/QUOTE]

My guess: The Dark Knight Returns (the graphic novel) that they use for a lot of their material has Batman in a suit of powered armor very similar to the one in the trailers; right in the middle of the climactic battle with Superman in that series, Batman had the (one armed at this point) Green Arrow shoot Clark with an arrow tipped with synthetic kryptonite ("This is my BEST trick, Clark..."). Superman catches it, but the proximity weakens him enough that ol' Bruce kicks his ass all around the block...

A bit earlier in the trailer you see Batman (who, if they obey canon, NEVER uses guns) shoot a bullet at Superman, who catches it. Hmmm...what's the bullet made of, Bruce?

Like I said, just my guess at this point, and it seems stupid they'd give something away like that in a trailer, but maybe they're hoping nobody's read one of Miller's seminal works...
 
Another one of Superman's weaknesses was magic... so maybe Batman's rocking a magical suit of power armour. Maybe he steals the magic metal from the Amazonians, causing Wonder Woman to join the fray right in time to triple team DoomsDay.
 
I kinda got tired of everybody being able to apparently buy a block of kryptonite at the local drug store too but I kinda see the need for it. Superman is so powerful that he could pretty much crush anybody not named Thor or Hulk so you gotta have something that can make him a little more vulnerable.
 
This looks and reminds me of the Jason VS Freddy movie....prob just as bad.
 
Another one of Superman's weaknesses was magic... so maybe Batman's rocking a magical suit of power armour. Maybe he steals the magic metal from the Amazonians, causing Wonder Woman to join the fray right in time to triple team DoomsDay.

I thought about magic as well. Aquaman's trident can hurt Superman as well. Although hard to say what role if any he'll play in this movie.

Whatever it is Bruce Wayne is no dummy. He's got some trick under his belt but we haven't seen it yet.
 
I find the fact that everyone and their mother can get a whole of Kryptonite kinda stupid. Its pieces of a shattered planets many millions of light years away yet so much of it is on earth. Too much exposure to Kryptonite gives humans cancers.
Well when it comes down to it there are only so many atoms available, so as long as you have a sample to work with one could jump to making actual kryptonite, hell they grow artificial diamonds and all they need a tiny piece to start with. That said, I dunno if kryptonite is simply a rock, or if there's magical juju floating around in it.
 
Aquaman's trident can hurt Superman as well.

That could very well be it. There was a 'spear' in one trailer that people were theorizing was a 'kryptonite' spear, but maybe it's Aquaman's trident or Amazonian-tech which in this universe, Superman is susceptible to.
 
Ditto we don't need another batman movie there has been enough.

Batman 1966
Batman 1989
Batman Returns 1992
Batman Forever 1995
Batman & Robin 1997
Batman Begins 2005
The Dark Knight 2008
The Dark Knight Rises 2012

Hate to break it to you and the rest, but they are making a stand along batman movie after this. Ben Affleck is writing, directing and staring in the movie. So you are getting another movie if you like it or not. Don't know yet if it is coming out before or after justice league.
 
Doing this movie first is a big mistake... and as cool as I think the new Suicide trailer is. Why oh why can't DC exert some control over their properties. In that I am talking about the odd choice to have things existing differently on different media. If you plan to make a cool Suicide Squad movie... why have the same charecters show up on your DC property TV show. Planning a Flash big screen movie... then why do that on Television. Marvel has been destroying them on both platforms imo... with DCs stable of villains they should at least be able to equal their rivals. Don't get me wrong as good as arrow and flash are as TV shows... Marvel is doing Daredevil and Jessica Jones, AOS I don't think is as good, but Agent Carter is underrated. What Marvel wisely did/is doing... is keeping things consistent. If thor is going to show up on a show... its not going to be some other actor playing a very different version. They wisely took properties less likely to be good feature film material (daredevil and JJ) and turned them into very good TV shows that can live in the same universe with out any confusion.

Anyway Wish DC had done the Aquaman movie first... prove you can pull that off... with nothing crossing media formats, and they would have turned plenty of people fanboy that want to love the DC movieverse, but just can't get over their seeming inability to control their own properties.
 
Doing this movie first is a big mistake... and as cool as I think the new Suicide trailer is. Why oh why can't DC exert some control over their properties. In that I am talking about the odd choice to have things existing differently on different media. If you plan to make a cool Suicide Squad movie... why have the same charecters show up on your DC property TV show. Planning a Flash big screen movie... then why do that on Television. Marvel has been destroying them on both platforms imo... with DCs stable of villains they should at least be able to equal their rivals. Don't get me wrong as good as arrow and flash are as TV shows... Marvel is doing Daredevil and Jessica Jones, AOS I don't think is as good, but Agent Carter is underrated. What Marvel wisely did/is doing... is keeping things consistent. If thor is going to show up on a show... its not going to be some other actor playing a very different version. They wisely took properties less likely to be good feature film material (daredevil and JJ) and turned them into very good TV shows that can live in the same universe with out any confusion.

I agree that it would be pretty awesome if DC had TV series that complemented their movie universe like Marvel does. Batman would be perfect for an ongoing TV series complemented by movies. Most of Batman's stories are more personal and 'real', similar to Dare Devil. I think it'd make for great TV to have a season long arc follow the 'Long Halloween' storyline. The movies could be reserved for big bombastic 'Justice League saving the earth' storylines or for exceptional Batman one-shot or smaller storylines (Death of the Family, Killing Joke, etc). The big issue being: how do you get an actor to commit to both a AAA movie release and a time consuming TV series. I don't think you'd get an actor like Affleck to agree to that schedule.

If anything, I'm just ready to have another quality Batman animated series (in the vein of the classic Batman: TAS). The DC animated movies have been more 'hit' than 'miss' lately too.
 
Doing this movie first is a big mistake... and as cool as I think the new Suicide trailer is. Why oh why can't DC exert some control over their properties. In that I am talking about the odd choice to have things existing differently on different media. If you plan to make a cool Suicide Squad movie... why have the same charecters show up on your DC property TV show. Planning a Flash big screen movie... then why do that on Television. Marvel has been destroying them on both platforms imo... with DCs stable of villains they should at least be able to equal their rivals. Don't get me wrong as good as arrow and flash are as TV shows... Marvel is doing Daredevil and Jessica Jones, AOS I don't think is as good, but Agent Carter is underrated. What Marvel wisely did/is doing... is keeping things consistent. If thor is going to show up on a show... its not going to be some other actor playing a very different version. They wisely took properties less likely to be good feature film material (daredevil and JJ) and turned them into very good TV shows that can live in the same universe with out any confusion.

Anyway Wish DC had done the Aquaman movie first... prove you can pull that off... with nothing crossing media formats, and they would have turned plenty of people fanboy that want to love the DC movieverse, but just can't get over their seeming inability to control their own properties.

Personally don't understand why they did make use of what they already created either. They already have deadshot as part of the Arrow and Flash world, just as they have ARGIS, the suicide squad, the boomerang. You have a show that is doing good in ratings and instead of using that for your basis of the character of the flash in the movie world you create a completely different one. Which is kind of funny as Supergirl is supposed to the in the same universe as the new movies. And in a recent episode of The Flash when traveling between Earth 1 and Earth 2 when showing the past, present and future they had clips from Supergirl. So they are trying to tie it all together but since they are using a different person to play the parts of these existing characters that means that they are in fact not tied together. I almost wondered if them bring dead shot back to be on flash 2 weeks ago was just a reminder that he was there first. As he was a character on The Arrow not the flash, yet when Barry went to Earth 2, dead shot was there as a cop. And the name dead shot was a joke name since he was a terrible shot. But he served no real purpose to be brought back after having died a season or two ago on Arrow when a mission of the suicide squad resulted in him giving his life if I recall correctly.

And that is where Marvel is going to continue to win. DC can't get their content in order and are fighting themselves for characters. And while they have existing series they are ignore those and starting from scratch for everything.
 
I read today that the Blu-ray is rumored to be rated R...so will probably rent the Blu-ray when it comes out and skip the theater
 
I read today that the Blu-ray is rumored to be rated R...so will probably rent the Blu-ray when it comes out and skip the theater

I doubt the little extra violence would be enough to really make a difference. 1 extra second of showing a topless woman can take you from an PG-13 to R rating. Doesn't really change the movie having that extra second in there. Could see the same being true for many fight scene, one extra hit or slightly different take on a shot will not make that much of an impact.
 
I wonder if it was the difference between marketing and the director. I know with Terminator: Genisys, the director filmed the John Connor parts as a surprise. Marketing ruined it by putting it in the trailer. So, the parts were supposed to be more surprising, but most of the audience already knew the 'secret'.

The reveal for that was retarded. It was such an important point in the film and knowing what they did in the trailer definitely took away from the experience.

Doomsday was this huge, multi franchise, several comic story. Going from Justice League to Superman. Hopefully he isn't like Venom in Spiderman 3 and just a quick defeat. Doomsday was the death of Superman (well, kinda...). He's not some simple bad guy that Luthor created. I just hope they do him justice.

Doing Doomsday justice isn't that hard. He's not a particularly complicated or multifaceted character. He's not even sentient in his earliest appearance. In his initial appearance he was little more than a plot device to kill Superman. Luthor growing a version of him was in the comics as well, although it was done from Doomsday's original dead body / DNA. As for an easy defeat, we've seen certain versions of him get defeated fairly easily under the right circumstances. In the Justice Lord story arc of Justice League, Superman from an alternate universe simply lobotomized Doomsday and turned him into a drooling retard via his heat vision. It was pretty entertaining actually, but I understand the concern. We already know he's going to make Batman and Superman put aside their differences which suggests he'll be something that they have to deal with late in the movie. Relegating Doomsday to a simple plot device is how the character got his start. I don't like that idea necessarily, but I think it's probably the best they can do given all the crap they are shoving into this one movie.

I'm still very much looking forward to this movie, though. I love Superman, and Affleck looks like he might nail this role (I had some major doubts at first). Luthor? I'm still laughing at the casting choice, but hoping I'm wrong.

I couldn't agree more with your casting assessment. Furthermore, I think the casting for Superman is good, although I don't care for how the character behaves in all post-New 52 material. He's basically a douche bag and very annoying. I had my doubt's about Affleck as well but after seeing him in the trailers I think he's easily going to be the best live action Batman since Michael Keaton, possibly even surpassing him. He's physically a closer match for Bruce in the comics than Keaton was, but Keaton nailed the essence of the character in a way that no one has before or since.

The casting for Lex Luthor seems all wrong. I don't understand the desire to turn the character into a millennial douche bag. Lex was never like that in the comics. He was always physically imposing for a human being, and at least average in live action depictions. Even the live action versions of the character have had a commanding presence on screen. This one just seems unrecognizable in the trailers. I wondered what the Riddler was doing in this movie the first time I saw a trailer that showed him. Maybe the twist on the character will work in some way, but I have my doubts.
 
The casting for Lex Luthor seems all wrong. I don't understand the desire to turn the character into a millennial douche bag. Lex was never like that in the comics. He was always physically imposing for a human being, and at least average in live action depictions. Even the live action versions of the character have had a commanding presence on screen. This one just seems unrecognizable in the trailers. I wondered what the Riddler was doing in this movie the first time I saw a trailer that showed him. Maybe the twist on the character will work in some way, but I have my doubts.

I still think Bryan Cranston would've made a great Lex Luthor for this film.

Apparently this film will be pushing the 2 hr 30 m mark - might not be a good idea to be drinking a liter of Cola during it.
 
Doing Doomsday justice isn't that hard. He's not a particularly complicated or multifaceted character. He's not even sentient in his earliest appearance. In his initial appearance he was little more than a plot device to kill Superman.
Yes but part of the "appeal" of the character was the slow build up over many comics. You can't do this in the movies, it just doesn't work, I mean first you'd have to have random heroes he trashes that most won't know who the hell they are, then a build up... and you want to introduce a government & batman vs superman? Yeah no way that works in a movie.
 
Doing Doomsday justice isn't that hard. He's not a particularly complicated or multifaceted character. He's not even sentient in his earliest appearance. In his initial appearance he was little more than a plot device to kill Superman. Luthor growing a version of him was in the comics as well, although it was done from Doomsday's original dead body / DNA. As for an easy defeat, we've seen certain versions of him get defeated fairly easily under the right circumstances. In the Justice Lord story arc of Justice League, Superman from an alternate universe simply lobotomized Doomsday and turned him into a drooling retard via his heat vision. It was pretty entertaining actually, but I understand the concern. We already know he's going to make Batman and Superman put aside their differences which suggests he'll be something that they have to deal with late in the movie. Relegating Doomsday to a simple plot device is how the character got his start. I don't like that idea necessarily, but I think it's probably the best they can do given all the crap they are shoving into this one movie.

Don't forget you have to work Darkseid in there also so the battle with doomdays can't take up that much time before you go from "we need 3 people to fight him" to "shit we need 7+ people now because of this new son of a bitch that just came from space with an army of ships."
 
Yes but part of the "appeal" of the character was the slow build up over many comics. You can't do this in the movies, it just doesn't work, I mean first you'd have to have random heroes he trashes that most won't know who the hell they are, then a build up... and you want to introduce a government & batman vs superman? Yeah no way that works in a movie.

Worked for Loki.
 
Doing Doomsday justice isn't that hard. He's not a particularly complicated or multifaceted character. He's not even sentient in his earliest appearance. In his initial appearance he was little more than a plot device to kill Superman. Luthor growing a version of him was in the comics as well, although it was done from Doomsday's original dead body / DNA. As for an easy defeat, we've seen certain versions of him get defeated fairly easily under the right circumstances. In the Justice Lord story arc of Justice League, Superman from an alternate universe simply lobotomized Doomsday and turned him into a drooling retard via his heat vision. It was pretty entertaining actually, but I understand the concern. We already know he's going to make Batman and Superman put aside their differences which suggests he'll be something that they have to deal with late in the movie. Relegating Doomsday to a simple plot device is how the character got his start. I don't like that idea necessarily, but I think it's probably the best they can do given all the crap they are shoving into this one movie.

Doomsday may not be very deep when it comes to personality or character development, but it went a long way with the battles. Being 2.5 hours long, they may be able to do it. I wish they wouldn't have shown him in the trailer, though. Now, I'm wondering how long Batman & Superman are going to duke it out and if Doomsday is going to be the final battle in the last 30 minutes or if he'll come in at the 45 minute mark and have the rest of the movie as the epic battle....

I haven't read any of the New 52 comics. Everything I base my stuff on is from the 80's/90's (up to 95 or so). I stopped collecting after graduating high school. Superman dying was one of the big things that made me lose interest. It made the national news, it sold a gazillion copies, and to me at the time - it was a sell out. I was young, and at the time it came off as a massive PR stunt to get money because Marvel was taking over. Now that I'm older, I'm starting to get back into comics. More of the adult ones, but I want to get back into Superman again.
 
I know it shouldn't crash and burn, but it sure seems like there's been a lot of negativity from hardcore fans (ie: revealing trailer, too many characters, etc). So, if this movie does come out and is described as a 'turd' through word of mouth from these fans and it underperforms - what then? Do they just go with Justice League 1 and 2 as they've already committed too many resources on it? Or dial back their plans?

As for the 'worked for Loki' comment, are you referring to the Avengers movie, when Loki took on Captain America and Iron Man (can't remember who else was fighting)? The thing with that scene, was that these characters were already established in their previous movies - so audiences knew what kind of powerhouses they were and that Loki holding his own against all of them was a big deal.
 
As for the 'worked for Loki' comment, are you referring to the Avengers movie, when Loki took on Captain America and Iron Man (can't remember who else was fighting)? The thing with that scene, was that these characters were already established in their previous movies - so audiences knew what kind of powerhouses they were and that Loki holding his own against all of them was a big deal.

I was aiming more at this first line...

"Yes but part of the "appeal" of the character was the slow build up over many comics. You can't do this in the movies, it just doesn't work"

Loki was probably the best thing about the first Thor movie but they built him up there and he worked even better in Avengers and I doubt we've seen the last of him. They could possibly do the same with Doomsday.
 
I wonder if it was the difference between marketing and the director. I know with Terminator: Genisys, the director filmed the John Connor parts as a surprise. Marketing ruined it by putting it in the trailer. So, the parts were supposed to be more surprising, but most of the audience already knew the 'secret'.

Doomsday was this huge, multi franchise, several comic story. Going from Justice League to Superman. Hopefully he isn't like Venom in Spiderman 3 and just a quick defeat. Doomsday was the death of Superman (well, kinda...). He's not some simple bad guy that Luthor created. I just hope they do him justice. Putting him in the trailer killed a lot for me, though. There are very few trailers out there that do it right these days. They give you enough to make you drool over the movie, but not enough of the plot to really know what's going to happen.

I'm still very much looking forward to this movie, though. I love Superman, and Affleck looks like he might nail this role (I had some major doubts at first). Luthor? I'm still laughing at the casting choice, but hoping I'm wrong.
Affleck ruined Dare Devil. He wasn't convincing as an acrobatic superhero and Affleck is older here. Could have been the director's/choreographer's fault. Batman has many takes, the ones that make him more than a thug require at least some acrobatic take.
 
Affleck ruined Dare Devil. He wasn't convincing as an acrobatic superhero and Affleck is older here. Could have been the director's/choreographer's fault. Batman has many takes, the ones that make him more than a thug require at least some acrobatic take.

Judging by the trailer, I don't think the acroBATics (he he he) are going to be an issue. That part has gotten a ton of praise. I think Affleck probably knows that about Daredevil and uses that as a learning lesson of what not to do. He got shit for it, and I'm sure he's looking back and he see's it too. So, I feel he's learning from his mistakes from Daredevil.

Shit, Ryan Reynolds with Green Lantern (director messed that one up) and then with Deadpool (not the Wolverine: Origins Deadpool) are a huge difference. Ryan saw the shit that was in Wolverine and wanted to do it right. This was his right. I'm HOPING Affleck does the same with Batman. With him wanting to do the writing, directing, and acting of Batman, I think he has enough invested to do it right.
 
Affleck ruined Dare Devil. He wasn't convincing as an acrobatic superhero and Affleck is older here. Could have been the director's/choreographer's fault. Batman has many takes, the ones that make him more than a thug require at least some acrobatic take.

I'd say the director ruined Dare Devil. Affleck is a great actor. Just see Argo or Gone Girl for proof. He's a good director too.
 
Well when it comes down to it there are only so many atoms available, so as long as you have a sample to work with one could jump to making actual kryptonite, hell they grow artificial diamonds and all they need a tiny piece to start with. That said, I dunno if kryptonite is simply a rock, or if there's magical juju floating around in it.
The whole idea of Kyptonite never made sense. If you evolve with something somewhat common in your environment, you should be tolerant of it. Superman should have no worse a reaction to it than a human. So it has entirely been a plot

Krptonite as a natural substance from Krypton as in the comics is not suppose to be part of the 'Man of Steel' universe. It can come from elsewhere, though.
 
I'd say the director ruined Dare Devil. Affleck is a great actor. Just see Argo or Gone Girl for proof. He's a good director too.

I'd agree with this. That movie had a lot of issues, but Affleck wasn't one of them. I think, if anything, maybe he could've spoken up more regarding the direction of that movie, but I doubt his opinion would've changed the director's decisions on the movie. Affleck's a big time comic book nerd, and I have faith he'll know how best to portray Batman (even if its held back by a bloated script).

As for kryptonite, it was more or less created to give Superman some sort of weakness but then became an overused element. If anything, I think it'd be much more interesting if Superman's power level is held in balance by his desire not to hurt man. Say: while he could easily level an entire city destroying one of his superfoes (ie: Doomsday), he's much more interested in containing the threat with minimal damage. I think that'd be more dramatic than Superman being depowered by a green rock.
 
This movie looks absolutely Horrid. Jessie Eisenberg as Lex Luthor....Really!? Out of everyone on the planet they had to choose that little dweeb? Give me a break. Timothy Olyphant would have been an awesome Lex...

And Doomsday? He doesn't even look like Doomsday at all! Where are the bones?, the long flowing white hair? He looks like a Mix between and Ogre & a 2015 Ninja Turtle.

What a turd.
 
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