Intel Skylake Xeon E3-1200v5 CPUs in stock at Newegg and Provantage

Yes, thank you. I knew they were due last week or this week because microcenter has stopped restocking the v3's. Funny story, I actually had a v3 cpu/mobo/ram sitting on my kitchen table for a week ready to go in and decided to go with a V5 instead so I returned everything.

However, I was surprised to hear that the V5 will require a C230 or C236 chipset because for some reason Intel doesnt want these in consumer boards.

Thats a bummer.
 
The Lurker said:
Yes, thank you. I knew they were due last week or this week because microcenter has stopped restocking the v3's. Funny story, I actually had a v3 cpu/mobo/ram sitting on my kitchen table for a week ready to go in and decided to go with a V5 instead so I returned everything.

However, I was surprised to hear that the V5 will require a C230 or C236 chipset because for some reason Intel doesnt want these in consumer boards.

Thats a bummer.
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Well Intel never intended to let the OEMs open up their consumer chipsets to their workstation/server chips.
 
Trimlock said:
Well Intel never intended to let the OEMs open up their consumer chipsets to their workstation/server chips.
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I just hope that this isn't a sign of things to come for the E5 Xeon. If Intel locked out the E5 Xeon from the HEDT chipsets, it would really suck....and badly.:(

The lockout of the E3 V5s is proof that they can do it...let's just hope they don't do it to the E5s...:(
 
lutjens said:
I just hope that this isn't a sign of things to come for the E5 Xeon. If Intel locked out the E5 Xeon from the HEDT chipsets, it would really suck....and badly.:(

The lockout of the E3 V5s is proof that they can do it...let's just hope they don't do it to the E5s...:(
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Actually the E5's were probably the biggest reason for the lockout. Intel probably saw a trend of the E5's getting sold with x99 "workstation" boards and was like "Awwwheeeel no."
 
Trimlock said:
Actually the E5's were probably the biggest reason for the lockout. Intel probably saw a trend of the E5's getting sold with x99 "workstation" boards and was like "Awwwheeeel no."
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I can't see why it would matter to them...they only end up selling more Xeons, which are high margin chips.
 
All this talk makes me second guess returning the V3 stuff i bought. Gonna suck to have to spend an other hundred or two for skylake stuff.

From the reading I have done, the server/workstation boards they intend to release are really really mediocre. A regular user would basically be forced to get a skylake chip.
 
The Intel Xeon E3-1230 looks like a pretty good deal. However I'm not interested if it can't be put into a consumer board.
 
However, I was surprised to hear that the V5 will require a C230 or C236 chipset because for some reason Intel doesnt want these in consumer boards.
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Source for this? Doesn't seem right, they are definitely still letting the celeron/pentium/i3 work the other way and ECC still enabled, e.g. Dell is already offering (currently overpriced) T130 w/ C236 configured this way.

Asrock seems to have the best support for Xeons and other things like ECC and/or VT-d on consumer boards if possible. They even support registered dimms when using E5 in a lot of their X79/X99 boards when other vendors don't bother. Some other vendors post dumb crap like "we don't support linux" or "this is not for servers" and ignore any questions.

I would watch for asrock updating their manuals/bios notes first.
 
Aluminum said:
Source for this? Doesn't seem right, they are definitely still letting the celeron/pentium/i3 work the other way and ECC still enabled, e.g. Dell is already offering (currently overpriced) T130 w/ C236 configured this way.

Asrock seems to have the best support for Xeons and other things like ECC and/or VT-d on consumer boards if possible. They even support registered dimms when using E5 in a lot of their X79/X99 boards when other vendors don't bother. Some other vendors post dumb crap like "we don't support linux" or "this is not for servers" and ignore any questions.

I would watch for asrock updating their manuals/bios notes first.
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Slightly off topic but since I'm the OP....

Is ECC confirmed to still work when overclocking those unlocked E5 Xeon CPUs in X79/X99 boards?

edit: here is a source for the possible locking to C236 boards, it seems unclear to me
maybe someone with a Z170 board can try it out

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9730/intel-launches-greenlow-c236-chipset-and-skylake-e31200-v5-xeons
 
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Aluminum said:
Source for this? Doesn't seem right, they are definitely still letting the celeron/pentium/i3 work the other way and ECC still enabled, e.g. Dell is already offering (currently overpriced) T130 w/ C236 configured this way.

Asrock seems to have the best support for Xeons and other things like ECC and/or VT-d on consumer boards if possible. They even support registered dimms when using E5 in a lot of their X79/X99 boards when other vendors don't bother. Some other vendors post dumb crap like "we don't support linux" or "this is not for servers" and ignore any questions.

I would watch for asrock updating their manuals/bios notes first.
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Read any Xeon v5 release article for info about the Xeons being tied to the C-series chipset.

Also vt-d and ecc support relies on the CPU. All major OEMs had great support for consumer chipsets and Xeons but that doesn't make them great workstation or server boards.
 
lutjens said:
I can't see why it would matter to them...they only end up selling more Xeons, which are high margin chips.
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Intel has zero problem moving chips but if people are having problems locating chips to use with server boards because they are being used in consumer chipsets then Intel will put the brakes on. Kind of like how they locked low end chips from over clocking.
 
Trimlock said:
Intel has zero problem moving chips but if people are having problems locating chips to use with server boards because they are being used in consumer chipsets then Intel will put the brakes on. Kind of like how they locked low end chips from over clocking.
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What you are saying is that Intel makes X amount of Xeons and if people use them on consumer boards, there will be none left for the server market?? This doesn't make much sense...if people are buying more Xeons to use with consumer chipsets, more Xeons should be made to accomodate the increased demand for more Xeons, the increased production and sale of which are beneficial to Intel, given their higher margin. Most Xeons are OEM anyway and Intel directly controls who gets what. If Dell, IBM or HP run short, distribution to the channel will be restricted to provide the extra volume to the large OEM that requires it.
 
lutjens said:
What you are saying is that Intel makes X amount of Xeons and if people use them on consumer boards, there will be none left for the server market?? This doesn't make much sense...if people are buying more Xeons to use with consumer chipsets, more Xeons should be made to accomodate the increased demand for more Xeons, the increased production and sale of which are beneficial to Intel, given their higher margin. Most Xeons are OEM anyway and Intel directly controls who gets what. If Dell, IBM or HP run short, distribution to the channel will be restricted to provide the extra volume to the large OEM that requires it.
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I never said none or the entire server market. Also Intel doesn't care if Xeons don't get sold to the consumer, they have plenty of cpus to fit that market.
 
Real bitch move by Intel if they are indeed locking the Xeon chips to server boards. It's bad enough they don't sell any ECC compatible CPUs with top level single thread performance.
 
EnderW said:
Did you order your motherboards from superbiiz? Looks like most of them are OOS now.

Also what RAM are you using?
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Yep, I was basically visiting their site every morning until I saw the X11 boards appear. Two models were already out of stock! So I quickly snagged two X11SSH-F's and called it a day.

I picked up four sticks of SK HYNIX 16GB PC4-2133P DDR4 REG-ECC DIMM HMA42GR7MFR4N-TF T1 AA

I'll pick up four more later when I actually have enough VM's to warrant it.
 
Baddreams said:
Yep, I was basically visiting their site every morning until I saw the X11 boards appear. Two models were already out of stock! So I quickly snagged two X11SSH-F's and called it a day.

I picked up four sticks of SK HYNIX 16GB PC4-2133P DDR4 REG-ECC DIMM HMA42GR7MFR4N-TF T1 AA

I'll pick up four more later when I actually have enough VM's to warrant it.
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Where did you get the RAM?
 
EnderW said:
Real bitch move by Intel if they are indeed locking the Xeon chips to server boards. It's bad enough they don't sell any ECC compatible CPUs with top level single thread performance.
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I thought the I3-6320 has pretty good single threaded performance & should work well with ecc.
 
Robstar said:
I thought the I3-6320 has pretty good single threaded performance & should work well with ecc.
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it's ok I supposed, probably equivalent to a E3-127xv5 but what I really want is a 6700k equivalent Xeon. Or just turn on ECC support for the i7 CPUs.
 
Thanks for the heads up, hopefully the motherboards come out soon. I have been eyeing a setup using the 1235L or 1225 and the ASRock Rack C236 WSI board in a small mini-itx case as a media server / windows media center home server.
 
If anyone can tell me if PCIe Access Control Services (ACS) or IOMMU super pages are supported on the Xeon E3-1200 v5's that would be appreciated.
 
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