Setups/systems for programmers

westrock2000 said:
The 4K monitors at 27" are just too small for me. Unless the monitor is right up in my face I can't read the text. So then I have to increase the display size. And then I'm right back where I was....no net real estate increase. At 27" I am happy with 1920 or 2560. For 4K (reading at 4K), I think you need to be more into the 32-36" size. And then you're only using 1 monitor.

DPI/PPI is still a big concern to me.
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You are right, it doesn't work for everyone. I am one of those weirdo's that uses a 4K 15" display at 140% scaling. Most people use 250% for that. But my vision is perfect and I can still read text on my screen from a few feet away.

I just saw the Dell 25" 1440P displays at a great price (only 50€ more than a 24" 1080p Ultrasharp). I might buy those as they seem great price/performance and PPI. Just asked our guys and they think 2x 27" is way to big to be comfortable. In my eyes a display cannot be big enough (if you have room to place them a bit further), but they have to use it, not me.

These are the systems:
4x MSI X99A SLI PLUS
4x Intel i7 5820K
4x G-Skill 32GB DDR4 2400 CL15 black kit
3x Seasonic G650 (indien we dit bij Alternate bestellen)
3x Fractal Design Define R4
3x Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
1x Samsung 850 EVO 500GB
1X Nvidia GTX 750 TI Gigabyte

Ordering parts tomorrow.

Also found a deal on 6 month old Herman Miller Aeron's. Instantly went there to get them
I got 8 of them, but only 6 in pic:
 
Where I work all the machines for developers are i7 3770 and 8gb ram and 2 500gb hard drives. As developers we have 3 20" monitors. I bought myself a 4k 39" seiki to use as it works much better than 3 20" monitors.

On the newer machines that they are bringing in they have i7 4790, 12/16gb ram, and 240gb sdd and 500gb hdd.

The new ones are tons better than the old ones because of the ram and ssd. I can max 8gb easy doing development. Though the ssd is the real performance improver. The amount of security software they have installed is insane and some times the computers just chug to a halt because the hdd is terrible at io compared to the ssd. But they won't give us the new ones unless the old ones break. If I have to restart my computer, I kid you not, its 10 min to shut down, and 20 min to restart before the computer is usable with all the crap they got loaded (which you can't turn off because they do automated audits and will come over and tell you so and so software isn't on). The ssd pcs restart in about 2 min and are usable.
 
munkle said:
If I have to restart my computer, I kid you not, its 10 min to shut down, and 20 min to restart before the computer is usable with all the crap they got loaded (which you can't turn off because they do automated audits and will come over and tell you so and so software isn't on). The ssd pcs restart in about 2 min and are usable.
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Your harddrive is dying if it takes 10min to shut down and 20min to restart.

My SSD laptop does a cold boot in 7 seconds (to desktop screen), and our other systems with optimised SSD's (even SATA 2!!) do it in 20 seconds. 2 minutes for an SSD pc is terrible.
 
Henri108 said:
Your harddrive is dying if it takes 10min to shut down and 20min to restart.

My SSD laptop does a cold boot in 7 seconds (to desktop screen), and our other systems with optimised SSD's (even SATA 2!!) do it in 20 seconds. 2 minutes for an SSD pc is terrible.
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2 minutes is way better than 30, hdd isn't dying, nor is the ssd terrible. Its just how long it takes all the software to load when starting up. If it was going bad then all of the computers are going bad. I've tried for a while to figure out how to speed them up, its just all the security software they have. They are constantly scanning for threats or making sure nobody is copying information improperly, some other stuff that I'm not sure what its for. I don't have any control over the software they put on the machine nor am I allowed to turn it off, I can install what I want but I have to leave what they put on it running (they being IT). Not sure if bitlocker slows things down but they use it on all pcs as well.
 
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munkle said:
2 minutes is way better than 30, hdd isn't dying, nor is the ssd terrible. Its just how long it takes all the software to load when starting up. If it was going bad then all of the computers are going bad. I've tried for a while to figure out how to speed them up, its just all the security software they have. They are constantly scanning for threats or making sure nobody is copying information improperly, some other stuff that I'm not sure what its for. I don't have any control over the software they put on the machine nor am I allowed to turn it off, I can install what I want but I have to leave what they put on it running (they being IT). Not sure if bitlocker slows things down but they use it on all pcs as well.
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That's pretty stupid. They would be better off having a very secure network instead and limiting download options. We just use Windows Defender as the only security sofware on the PC's themselves. But the network is very secure.
 
munkle said:
2 minutes is way better than 30, hdd isn't dying, nor is the ssd terrible. Its just how long it takes all the software to load when starting up. If it was going bad then all of the computers are going bad. I've tried for a while to figure out how to speed them up, its just all the security software they have. They are constantly scanning for threats or making sure nobody is copying information improperly, some other stuff that I'm not sure what its for. I don't have any control over the software they put on the machine nor am I allowed to turn it off, I can install what I want but I have to leave what they put on it running (they being IT). Not sure if bitlocker slows things down but they use it on all pcs as well.
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If I saw that during an interview, I'd walk. Life is too short to let frustrations like that eat at your enjoyment for software development.
 
Henri108 said:
That's pretty stupid. They would be better off having a very secure network instead and limiting download options. We just use Windows Defender as the only security sofware on the PC's themselves. But the network is very secure.
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You don't believe this, do you?
 
In a lot of corporate environments, you won't be permitted to connect any hardware that's not owned by the company to their network. I've seen some really ridiculous things done in the name of security at major corporations, like taking a perfectly fine PC and crippling it by using some half-assed roaming profile implementation that makes both startup and shutdown take multiple minutes. These tend to be the same companies that are still forcing everyone to use IE8 :rolleyes:

Good score on those Aerons. Gotta love the ubiquitous deep discounts from the startups that buy $900 chairs, only to immediately flame out.
 
Got the systems. Monitors and cases arrive tomorrow. Already got my own system installed. Pic's will follow.

BTW Dell 34" is just mindblowing.
 
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