Sony Warns Against Upgrading To Windows 10

Whach said:
Imaged my VAIO S last week. I'll give win 10 a spin on it and see if their own utility software works. Driver wise, they will work well I suspect. Worst case scenario, I restore back to a win8.1 image and upgrade at a later date.

As for them being shit, meh. Too subjective. There are too many shitty laptops out there from all of the major players. Sony was by no means the worst - at least from the two specific S & Z models I've had.
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Yeah, I've got a black VAIO S15 that was a pretty damned solid device when I bought it in 2012. Bright 15" 1080p IPS display, Ivy Bridge, USB 3.0, GT640 (that could be flashed to 650M specs for a nice bump in 3D performance), decent backlit keyboard, and a sub-5 pound magnesium alloy chassis with a durable finish all in an understated package. For about $1200 at the time I bought it. Did my own upgrade to a Corsair 512GB SSD the day I bought it.

Samsung's competing 15" model had a TN display, Dell's was cheap-looking and had a lesser GPU, Lenovo was considerably more expensive, Asus didn't have the GPU or display (and my previous 2 Asus laptops shit the bed and had QC issues galore), and I'd take a beating before I'd give any money to Cupertino.

I've abused mine a lot, traveled all over the world with it, still looks almost new, and I'm glad I made the choice over three years later. I even have the original 1TB HDD in a portable USB 3.0 chassis that gets a lot of use.

Still even using the original battery pack with no noticeable battery life loss. Taking advantage of the 80% charge feature in the VAIO software when not travelling helped, I'm sure.

TL:DR: It's the first laptop out of the dozen or so I've bought that I didn't feel the need to replace in a year. I probably will go with a touch screen convertible when the 2016 models roll out, and would have considered another VAIO if Sony still owned the company. Four years after I bought the VAIO.

That said, mine was a Win7 device out of the box, with a free upgrade to Win8 due to when I bought it. The "upgrade" move to Win8 was not smooth, some core VAIO functionality didn't work for months (power modes and FN keys specifically) after the Win8 launch as Sony took their sweet time getting it ready for upgrade users. Ended up having to do a clean install to get everything working properly.
 
damicatz said:
They need time to update their rootkits to be compatible with Windows 10.
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Ha ha, the old days.

I'm betting Sony is still trying to figure out what the little icon is in their task tray, probably just blends in with all the bloatware on their PCs.
 
in sony's defense no one was expecting windows 10 to be out this early everyone on the pc hardware side of things expected an October release so the drivers that are out are well not complete :p
 
Matthew Kane said:
They literally break down for me at least after a few months. If it's not the phone constantly freezing or the screen digitiser not working with touches on specific areas of the screen.

Annoying.
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I don't think that's normal. We've got lots of employees that choose whatever the current Galaxy S# is and I've never heard of co-workers having an unusual number of problems. If they did, they'd quit getting them.
 
///AMG said:
You too? I swore off Samsung after my Note 3 again like my Galaxy Nexus, Note 2 and 1, Galaxy S, 2, 3, 4 all took a shit after 6 months and almost always had something not working. Literally every one of the batteries had probably less than 50% of the original capacity after 6 months. Rooted most of them except the Note 3 had extended OEM batteries for most of them, kept them really clean, didnt play games pretty much at all on them and they all took a nose dive in battery life. A lot of my Samsung phones had really bad GPS, non working Wi-Fi, non working USB ports.
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Guess I got a good one.
My Samsung S3 is now over 3 years old, and still works fine.
Still has the original battery (and seems to give me at least 90% of the original capacity). GPS, WiFi and the USB port all still work. I didn't root it, or install an OEM battery, but I do spend too much time playing games on it.

My only complaints is that T-Mobile decided not to release 4.4 for the phone, and some of the games are a bit laggy, but otherwise it's been a great phone.
 
Sony made some amazing laptops back in the day and pioneered some technologies that other laptop makers used later on. I especially miss their Vaio Z series. :(
 
I think I speak for the masses when I say "F*ck Sony and their anti consumer practices!"
 
KarsusTG said:
I think I speak for the masses when I say "F*ck Sony and their anti consumer practices!"
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The uneducated masses, sure.

But Windows 10 has already had some growing pains and some legitimate concerns over things like the forced updates, to include (possibly faulty) driver updates, and Sony's really not all that unreasonable to take this stance. This isn't necessarily an "anti-consumer practice."
 
i put it on my flip 13 and have no problems with it at all.

hell I have more hardware sony problems than anything else with this things (abysmal wireless that requires me to use a usb wireless device and the touch pad stops working for like 30 seconds like every 5 to 10 minutes)
 
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