No Fee For 'Windows As A Service'

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According to this post on Twitter by Gabe Aul, Microsoft's General Manager OSG Data and Fundamentals team, there is no ongoing fee for Windows 10. Windows as a Service just means it will be kept continuously up to date.
 
Then why call it a "Service" if there are no fees?
Why not just call it "Windows with Auto Updating "?
 
the-one1 said:
Then why call it a "Service" if there are no fees?
Why not just call it "Windows with Auto Updating "?
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Because it's probably accurate to say there's no fee for "Windows 10". However, for the following release of "Windows Online", that'll be $10 a month or some shit.

It's a lie of omission, mostly likely.
 
Hint: New spying techniques implemented into the OS so they can give it to you, for 'free'.
 
"Windows as a Service" was a poor phrase to use to describe it. While MS has used "Windows as a Service" to describe how Windows 10 would be continuously updated since that phrase was introduced a year ago, people have been confusing it with Azure/Mohoro, often called DaaS (desktop as a service). Did MS forget all the similar bad speculation that happened with .NET? lol

The sad thing is that WaaS and DaaS are probably on a collision course anyways.
 
Personally, I don't see what the problem is. If they charged ~$30 per year I would gladly pay it. If you think about it, you pay around $120 every 3 years or so for a new Windows version anyways (assuming you get an OEM copy like most PC enthusiasts). So 30-40 bucks per year is quite reasonable, especially considering that you will no longer have to worry about an expired copy and not getting updates. As long as your subscription is current your OS is up to date. To me it seems logical that the only people who would be pissed off about Microsoft potentially doing an annual or even monthly subscription are folks who get their OS from a site that rhymes with PilotDay.
 
Mark my words, there is something hidden we don't know about yet. This all sounds too good to be true and I'll bet it is.
 
Windows with Ads, that's how they give it to you for free.
 
foxtrotniner said:
Windows with Ads, that's how they give it to you for free.
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Out of all the crack pot theories/statements in this thread, your's is the only one worth acknowledging.

I could see them doing that. But if I'm then getting Windows for free, I'm not sure I care. Especially when it would only be a matter of time before someone came out with 'AdBlock Plus for Windows'.
 
they're gonna push new versions on line like with 8.1, 10.1, 10.2 and so on. then release windows 10 360!
 
staknhalo said:
Out of all the crack pot theories/statements in this thread, your's is the only one worth acknowledging.

I could see them doing that. But if I'm then getting Windows for free, I'm not sure I care. Especially when it would only be a matter of time before someone came out with 'AdBlock Plus for Windows'.
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"PLEASE UNINSTALL POSSIBLE MALWARE CALLED "ADBLOCK PLUS" IMMEDIATELY WITH THE BELOW BUTTON...OR CLICK 'CANCEL' TO BRICK YOUR COPY OF WINDOWS NOW."
 
Candy Crush confirmed to be installed in Windows 10 by default. 30% of those in-game purchases going to a cackling Tammy Reller - ka ching ka ching. That's how they'll make their money back.
 
pxc said:
"Windows as a Service" was a poor phrase to use to describe it. While MS has used "Windows as a Service" to describe how Windows 10 would be continuously updated since that phrase was introduced a year ago, people have been confusing it with Azure/Mohoro, often called DaaS (desktop as a service). Did MS forget all the similar bad speculation that happened with .NET? lol

The sad thing is that WaaS and DaaS are probably on a collision course anyways.
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I was gonna say they are going along the [insert tech here] As a Service that is going around for everything,
 
Largo said:
Microsoft does nothing for free.
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Yes and no. Microsoft is looking to maximize profit - not necessarily a bad thing for a business to do. Not so good for the consumer though :(

Here's how I see it: MS wants to generate revenue like Apple. My estimation is that MS wants to leverage mass numbers to reap profits from their "Windows Store". Specifically this part, "...if you have an app that sells for $10, and you sell 20 copies during your first billing cycle, your app sales are $200. Your app proceeds will be $140 ($200 in app sales minus $60 for the 30% Windows Store fee)...". Source from MS themselves:https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/jj193593.aspx. MS takes 30% of sales. MS wants everyone purchasing from their store.

How much will this benefit them? My opinions:
  • Windows 7 doesn't access the Windows Store. The Windows 7 install base is HUGE. They want those people off Windows 7 and on an OS that has their store built in. Windows 7 runs on almost 60% of general user PCs, this includes Macs. http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0 That's a shit ton of potential people buying from your store. Let's face it, most people running W7 won't pay to upgrade, but their logic will be "hey if it's free, why not?!?". There you go, more money extracted from what would otherwise be a zero revenue generating install.
  • Windows 8/8.1 is a small percentage of market share and has the Windows Store. They're giving it to them for free as well to avoid backlash. Could you imagine the outcry if W7 users got the free upgrade, but W8 users didn't?
  • In terms of allowing pirate windows installs to run, it's a business decision. The reality is that even if piracy is morally wrong people are going to do it. If they aren't going to pay you for Windows anyways, it's not a lost sale. However if you don't actively prevent the pirates from using their illegal copy now you have another person that can buy from the Windows Store. Even if they only end up purchasing some small "apps", a cut of that is better than a cut of nothing from a pirated version of windows without access to a store.
  • Windows 10 from my understanding is slated to include "targeted advertising" built in, Win 7 does not have this. MS sells this ad space... again, more $ for MS.
  • Finally for a long term goal (and this is speculation), it's likely that they want to at some point force you go through the "Windows Store" to buy programs, just like Apple does. At that point that 30% fee for selling on the windows store really reaps it's benefits. As a side, this also provides some lock-in. If you have your programs via the Windows Store, then you're more likely to stick with Windows so you don't lose everything by switching to another platform.
 
Just go to Linux when SteamOS comes out in full force later this year... Assuming it actually does come out.
 
I haven't seen any app worth buying in the windows store. They ruined it when they rewarded developers to create any app to bolster their numbers, and ended up with a flood of cheap apps to open popular websites. Many of those were unofficial apps using trademarked logos.
 
Yeah. there will be a catch. Its as predictable as the sun coming up in the morning. Think not? Then i have a block of land i can sell you... its a bargin!

Another thing that is just as predictable... is how i am sick to death of "my" internet being farmed into an advertisement/money machines for big corps. and governments and if something smells of this... then i'm not buying it. Even if its upfront cost is "free".
 
Yeah right, and also 640kB was supposedly enough for everybody...

I don't believe a word coming from any corporation.
 
My first thought was it runs as a service in the background. Didnt occur to me as a service with a fee.
I just hope there is a way to turn off the update service for those of us on limited bandwidth.
 
cortexodus said:
Because it's probably accurate to say there's no fee for "Windows 10". However, for the following release of "Windows Online", that'll be $10 a month or some shit.

It's a lie of omission, mostly likely.
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This site is giving great laughs this morning, thanks. :D There will be no subscription service, period.
 
Microsoft is sitting on 80 Billion in cash. Giving the OS away for free for the first year upgraders makes sound business sense. I was not aware that [H] has so many conspiracy theorist.
 
the-one1 said:
Then why call it a "Service" if there are no fees?
Why not just call it "Windows with Auto Updating "?
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Home consumers will pay a one time fee baked into their hardware.
Business will pay for it a service

Don't know where that leaves home builders.
 
evilsofa said:
Apple doesn't charge for its operating systems. Microsoft wants to be like Apple. Why is it so strange to think that Microsoft won't charge for its operating systems anymore?

What if I told you that selling retail copies of Microsoft Windows is less than 1 percent of Microsoft's revenues?
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That means no one buys Windows in Best Buy. They buy it as part of their hardware or via an OEM purchase (home builders, ma and pa shops) and corporate purchases. (Together 30%). I don't think anyone was thinking buying it off the shelf in Best Buy was big.
 
With windows going to a faster release schedule I'd rather switch to annual subscription to keep the 5 machines in my home up date.
 
ManofGod said:
Microsoft is sitting on 80 Billion in cash. Giving the OS away for free for the first year upgraders makes sound business sense. I was not aware that [H] has so many conspiracy theorist.
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You must thank microsoft.

We are just not ignoring how they normally behave, regardless of a new ceo.

Like others said, they never do anything for free or for the goodness of their sweet hearts.

This free crap is must likely to kill SteamOS for gamers and anyone that was able to switch to Linux and OSX.

After those 3 are gone, force everything and everyone to the app store.

Those are just a couple of possible scenarios.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana
 
grtitan said:
This free crap is must likely to kill SteamOS for gamers and anyone that was able to switch to Linux and OSX.
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This is one of the funniest crackpot theories in this thread. MS isn't threatened by steamos or Linux for gamers. I can almost guarantee that they give less than a crap about the nonexistent threat of Apple taking over the PC gaming market.
 
MrGuvernment said:
Apple Charges for it's OS, in it's hardware prices, always has.
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Yeah always amazed at the tools that say "Well Apple give OSX away for free!"

Hmm no, you paid for it in the $1500 you spent on the Macbook Pro.
 
Exactly, MS could do this, but they don't sell hardware, instead they get OEM's to do it for them.
 
Largo said:
Microsoft does nothing for free.
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foxtrotniner said:
Windows with Ads
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GMcDougal said:
Mark my words, there is something hidden
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rezerekted said:
Yep, drop your pants.
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Kalabalana said:
They are prepping us for something
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HardUp4HardWare said:
ITS A TRAP!!!
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Germanium said:
Hint: New spying techniques implemented into the OS
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cortexodus said:
It's a lie of omission, mostly likely.
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grtitan said:
This free crap is must likely to kill SteamOS.
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MisterHipster said:
Just go to Linux when SteamOS comes out
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Madoc said:
"There's a sucker born every minute." -- P.T. Barnum
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HoffY said:
Yeah. there will be a catch.
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Hakuren said:
I don't believe a word coming from any corporation.
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Oh, Internet.
 
crusty_juggler said:
Oh, Internet.
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Just ask Be Inc.

Microsoft resorted to all kinds of illegal crap to kill them and they had even less market share than Linux and OSX today.

But the typical microsoft apologist will ignore all proofs of how evil their beloved company is.
 
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