Xbox 360 Users Get $75 Credit with Xbox One Purchase

I'm confused, so they reward the people who buy an XBOne by enticing them to play their 360 instead?
 
Last quarter they made about $9 billion of free cash flow if i'm not mistaken. If they had any brains they'd either be planning a short product cycle for the xbone or giving out this $75 credit to anyone who was willing to buy their stupid xbone.

With sony in financial trouble, they should have made the Xbone 2x as powerful as it is and then lose money intentionally in order to push sony out even more. If they lost $100/console that would only be $1 billion of losses on 10 million console sales. By the time they even hit 10m sales the tech would have gotten cheap enough they'd probably be back to breaking even.
 
That's like winning a $5 off coupon for a PizzaHut pizza when you purchase the salad bar, but the coupon can only be used on day old pizza that sat out the weekend and was made with low fat cheese, Alfredo sauce and anchovies.
 
Seventyfive said:
Last quarter they made about $9 billion of free cash flow if i'm not mistaken.
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And it would have been more if the Xbox wasn't such a money pit vanity project, which is why investors are livid that it hasn't been sold off or spun off yet.
 
I remember when the PS3 and 360's both came out. It seemed like they were very hard to find and when you did find one, it was the last one in the stores and you had to fight to get them for many months after they came out. Now with the PS4 and Xboxone, Just about every store i go into has at least 2 of each sitting on the shelves. People don't seem to be rushing to upgrade their consoles like they did back with the previous Generation was new.
 
csgill75 said:
I remember when the PS3 and 360's both came out. It seemed like they were very hard to find and when you did find one, it was the last one in the stores and you had to fight to get them for many months after they came out. Now with the PS4 and Xboxone, Just about every store i go into has at least 2 of each sitting on the shelves. People don't seem to be rushing to upgrade their consoles like they did back with the previous Generation was new.
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There are multiple reasons for that. A lot of multi-platform titles are still getting releasing on 360/PS3, there aren't enough good newgen titles, and a lot of consumers don't feel the newgen offers enough of a leap forward to justify an additional $400 outlay. But the biggest factor of all is back in the 360/PS3 glory days, tablets weren't even a thing yet. Now, a lot of console kiddies have moved to tablets and mobile devices.
 
Even if they do choose me I'm going to pass. There really aren't any compelling next-gen console games yet (at least for me). Most games are coming to PC and I'd be happy if it stays like that. Then I don't have to buy a low-end PC that only plays specifically validated software. That's what your PS4 and Xbox One are, in reality.

Also, Microsoft has burned all their credibility with me by backpedaling on everything they say. It's like a friend who constantly tries to screw you but apologizes when they get caught.
 
csgill75 said:
I remember when the PS3 and 360's both came out. It seemed like they were very hard to find and when you did find one, it was the last one in the stores and you had to fight to get them for many months after they came out. Now with the PS4 and Xboxone, Just about every store i go into has at least 2 of each sitting on the shelves. People don't seem to be rushing to upgrade their consoles like they did back with the previous Generation was new.
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You're wrong on this, the supply side of things have gotten much better, ps4 and xbox one has very easily outsold the ps3 and xbox360 this time around. It hasn't even been a year and both are past the numbers for what took a year last generation.
 
That sounded great up until the part of turning it on.. my 360 was rrod years ago and I got tired of getting it replaced. It just collects dust in a closet now beside the Wii.
 
My nephew (whom I had custody of at the time) begged for a 360 forever, but I wouldn't buy one for him until the RROD problems were solved.
I waited until Jasper was released, bought him one of those, have had to crack it open twice and clean it out with compressed air but besides that it runs as good as the day we brought it home from Walmart.
Boy was that clerk pissed she had to open the glass and let me read off serial numbers until I found a Jasper! One of two they had in stock, explained to the clerk why I was checking them and she hid the other one to take home to her kid.
But yeah, my cousin had a first run 360 and returned it 6 times before the warranty wore out, no way in hell I was paying $300+ for a piece of s#it like that.
 
Semantics said:
You're wrong on this, the supply side of things have gotten much better, ps4 and xbox one has very easily outsold the ps3 and xbox360 this time around. It hasn't even been a year and both are past the numbers for what took a year last generation.
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And with 8.4 million units so far, the PS4 has actually sold as many as the first two years for the Xbox 360, (and it's only been out for 8 months).

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csgill75 said:
I remember when the PS3 and 360's both came out. It seemed like they were very hard to find and when you did find one, it was the last one in the stores and you had to fight to get them for many months after they came out. Now with the PS4 and Xboxone, Just about every store i go into has at least 2 of each sitting on the shelves. People don't seem to be rushing to upgrade their consoles like they did back with the previous Generation was new.
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Previous consoles also didn't have over a million consoles on the shelves day one. If either console only shipped 400,000 units in the first 30 days you'd have seen the same thing occur. Fortunately these things use modified off the shelf parts and both companies can increase production and lower the costs over time quickly.

They sold 1 million consoles in 24 hours, and in Sony's case are selling above what the Wii did in the same time span. (Remember all of the articles saying how incredible the Wii was doing? It's still sold out after a year, etc.) It just doesn't seem like it because there is no fabricated shortages, you'd have to look at sales data.

People are buying them in quicker than any previous generation, it's just that this time they can meet demand fairly easy.
 
dali71 said:
And with 8.4 million units so far, the PS4 has actually sold as many as the first two years for the Xbox 360, (and it's only been out for 8 months).

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Source on the 8.4 million? I haven't seen anything new since the 7 million figure. It's close to my guestimates but that's with me looking at monthly numbers + the 100 million figure Sony came out with a few days ago.
 
By the way, they didn't "sell 1M consoles in 24hrs". Thats nonsense or at least misleading since they included months worth of preorders in that figure.

I also don't think "outselling their predecessors faster in the same timespan" is a complete picture of the health of the new gen consoles. So many other factors. I think theyll reach a saturation point faster and thus sales will fall off a cliff faster. Add to that competition from mobile devices, a resurgent PC gaming market which wasn't the case in most if the PS3/360 timespan, and new entries into the console market from Apple, Google, Valve over the next five years will also reduce interest.

Bottom line new newgen consoles, especially Xbone, are actually in trouble long-term.
 
DPI said:
By the way, they didn't "sell 1M consoles in 24hrs". Thats nonsense or at least misleading since they included months worth of preorders in that figure.

I also don't think "outselling their predecessors faster in the same timespan" is a complete picture of the health of the new gen consoles. So many other factors. I think theyll reach a saturation point faster and thus sales will fall off a cliff faster. Add to that competition from mobile devices, a resurgent PC gaming market which wasn't the case in most if the PS3/360 timespan, and new entries into the console market from Apple, Google, Valve over the next five years will also reduce interest.

Bottom line new newgen consoles, especially Xbone, are actually in trouble long-term.
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They still sold 1 million in 24 hours, no one was charged until they shipped or were bought in store, most all consoles released have had preorders. I'm not sure what you're talking about with "saturation point", the PS3 and 360 had good sales all the way up until this generation kicked off. The PC market has zero impact in the console market, the sales disparity every new console release is the same regardless of what is happening on PCs. Mobile has nothing to do with it either, that does affect Vita and 3DS but never on the console front. Oyua bombed and Apple will never get back into the console game after Pippin.

The only way I see that changing is if Steambox takes off and I just don't see that happening. It would be directly competing for sales with the Xbox One and PS4.

I believe the PS4 has the staying power to actually sell close to PS2 levels, so I'm just going to say I disagree with everything you posted. If you have any links discussing your post and it's viability I'd be interested to read it.
 
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