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Two Intel employees have been named to Business Insider’s list of the 22 Most Powerful Female Engineers in Tech. Carolyn Duran, ranked at #2, leads Intel’s efforts to remove conflict minerals from its supply chain and end human rights abuses in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Mauri Whelan, ranked at #8, is a vice president in Intel’s Software and Services Group and directs the company’s open source software development work.
 
How difficult is it to oversee a supply chain audit process for minerals, and what engineering knowledge would you need to accomplish that? She sounds more like her role is one of a public relations figurehead, and they probably like to take pictures of her doing charity events and the like for the corporation. Better to rename the title "Female Engineerishy people".
 
Ducman69 said:
How difficult is it to oversee a supply chain audit process for minerals, and what engineering knowledge would you need to accomplish that? She sounds more like her role is one of a public relations figurehead, and they probably like to take pictures of her doing charity events and the like for the corporation. Better to rename the title "Female Engineerishy people".
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Have you dealt with environmental requirements and conflict minerals ... it isn't trivial ... I did environmental compliance for Flextronics until I switched jobs last year ... I actually had to work with the Intel folks for several products we were manufacturing for them ... they had a pretty comprehensive set of requirements including very detailed testing and 3rd party auditing requirements ... I had a couple of meetings where she attended and she seemed to be pretty sharp (at least from my perspective)
 
Director of growth engineering? Seriously? Does that mean my stay at home wife is Vice President of Domestic Engineering?

Also, a pet peeve of mine is computer science getting the engineer label. In most states, it's technically illegal to call yourself an Engineer unless you've passed a PE exam and are registered.
 
Wrecked Em said:
Also, a pet peeve of mine is computer science getting the engineer label. In most states, it's technically illegal to call yourself an Engineer unless you've passed a PE exam and are registered.
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That would be a bogus classification as probably only about 10% of engineers (or fewer) pursue the PE (and it is a mostly useless designation unless you are a civil engineer or in a few specific government positions) ... I have a BSME and have no need or desire to pursue a PE certification, but I am still an engineer ;)
 
kbrickley said:
Have you dealt with environmental requirements and conflict minerals ... it isn't trivial ... I did environmental compliance for Flextronics until I switched jobs last year ... I actually had to work with the Intel folks for several products we were manufacturing for them ... they had a pretty comprehensive set of requirements including very detailed testing and 3rd party auditing requirements ... I had a couple of meetings where she attended and she seemed to be pretty sharp (at least from my perspective)
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DRC Conflict minerals and RoHS compliance are a pain in the ass. Not to mention she is the supply chain director for a company like Intel. Has her doctorate... was an R&D engineer.

Yea, she's doing something right.
 
Wrecked Em said:
Director of growth engineering? Seriously? Does that mean my stay at home wife is Vice President of Domestic Engineering?

Also, a pet peeve of mine is computer science getting the engineer label. In most states, it's technically illegal to call yourself an Engineer unless you've passed a PE exam and are registered.
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Yeah ok. I dont have a PE, im not a Computer Scientist, I am however a software ENGINEER. As another poster above pointed out very very few members of the engineering industry actually pursue a PE
 
Powerful?!?!? Do you even lift, sis?

/spirit of thread
 
I think the choice of the term "most powerful" is the issue at hand here. The choice of two women who are involved in conflict minerals, human rights, and open source development, tends to make it feel more touchy-feely than "powerful." I understand that technically the term is used correctly but I feel it sends a contradictory message here...it would be better to say "impactful" or "influential."
 
A lot of people in this thread don't know how manufacturing businesses work. Supply chain management for a company the size of Intel is a huge deal.
 
Wrecked Em said:
Director of growth engineering? Seriously? Does that mean my stay at home wife is Vice President of Domestic Engineering?

Also, a pet peeve of mine is computer science getting the engineer label. In most states, it's technically illegal to call yourself an Engineer unless you've passed a PE exam and are registered.
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Companies just hand out the title "engineer" now a days to impress customers.
It can mean any kind of tech specialist. It doesn't have to do with designing things from scratch like an electrical engineer designing electronic circuits.

Our "network engineer" would do a sight survey and say: "Need, wire drops, here, here, here, here, here, and the switch and router will go here. Go do it."
And the wire pullers would actually did all the work and made it a working network.
Some engineer huh? :rolleyes:
 
Dr. Righteous said:
Companies just hand out the title "engineer" now a days to impress customers.
It can mean any kind of tech specialist. It doesn't have to do with designing things from scratch like an electrical engineer designing electronic circuits.

Our "network engineer" would do a sight survey and say: "Need, wire drops, here, here, here, here, here, and the switch and router will go here. Go do it."
And the wire pullers would actually did all the work and made it a working network.
Some engineer huh? :rolleyes:
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Yeah this isnt at all the same as an engineer designing a power grid or power drops for a building and a tech actually running the lines right? :rolleyes:
 
Maxx said:
I think the choice of the term "most powerful" is the issue at hand here. The choice of two women who are involved in conflict minerals, human rights, and open source development, tends to make it feel more touchy-feely than "powerful." I understand that technically the term is used correctly but I feel it sends a contradictory message here...it would be better to say "impactful" or "influential."
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Here is the exact quote on Carolyn Duran:

Why she's powerful: Imagine personally ending slavery in some of the poorest, most violent places in the world. That's what Duran is doing with her job at Intel.

Most of us have heard of "blood diamonds" that come from war-torn areas in Africa. Many consumer electronics use materials from mines run by brutal warlords, too. They are known as "conflict minerals."

Duran led Intel's efforts to stop using these minerals. Instead of simply buying from other mines, her program worked with mines in the Congo to get them to stop using slave labor. After years of this work, the company is producing chips made with 100% conflict-free minerals.

To date, her team has met with more than 85 smelters in 21 countries to develop better employee practices. This work led to a global Conflict-Free Sourcing Initiative.

Inside Intel, she also leads a team of technologists who makes sure that the minerals meet other worldwide chemical laws.

She's been with Intel since 1998, starting as a process engineer in research and development. She earned a doctorate in materials science and engineer from Northwestern University.
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I think that based on their description she more than qualifies ... the business lists always tend to be a little bit of marketing speak but I think folks are getting a little nitpicky about the use of the word "powerful" ... also, from my previous work on environmental and social responsibility I can confirm that there were several tech companies who were leading the entire industry with their requirements (Intel was definitely one of those companies)
 
Wrecked Em said:
Director of growth engineering? Seriously? Does that mean my stay at home wife is Vice President of Domestic Engineering?

Also, a pet peeve of mine is computer science getting the engineer label. In most states, it's technically illegal to call yourself an Engineer unless you've passed a PE exam and are registered.
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Not in California, which is nearly the only state that matters.
 
VladDracule said:
Yeah this isnt at all the same as an engineer designing a power grid or power drops for a building and a tech actually running the lines right? :rolleyes:
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My point it is doesn't take an engineer level education do this kind of thing; much of it is glorified monkey work.
 
Ducman69 said:
Telecommunications engineer does sound better than receptionist.
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Got a buddy who is a bonafide electrical engineer. He said he quit trying to make a living at it. He would work a few months as a contractor and get laid off. Get hired by a different company, work for a few months. Project canceled; laid off. Was a repeating cycle. Nobody hires EEs as full time anymore. Now he does subcontractor work as a freelance technician and works out of his house.
 
Dr. Righteous said:
Companies just hand out the title "engineer" now a days to impress customers.
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I hesitated clicking the article because it's a BI listicle. Looking through it, those profiled seem to have the education that goes along with the title, so I don't get the complaint. Jelly and no PB?
 
Ducman69 said:
How difficult is it to oversee a supply chain audit process for minerals, and what engineering knowledge would you need to accomplish that? She sounds more like her role is one of a public relations figurehead, and they probably like to take pictures of her doing charity events and the like for the corporation. Better to rename the title "Female Engineerishy people".
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Here is a fine example of some idiot sitting in his bedroom pounding away at a keyboard spouting off about something hasnt a fuckin clue about.
 
Dr. Righteous said:
Got a buddy who is a bonafide electrical engineer. He said he quit trying to make a living at it. He would work a few months as a contractor and get laid off. Get hired by a different company, work for a few months. Project canceled; laid off. Was a repeating cycle. Nobody hires EEs as full time anymore. Now he does subcontractor work as a freelance technician and works out of his house.
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Yeah this is completely untrue. My company (a smallish startup) has 30+ full time EE's. My degree and background is EE (im working as a software engineer at this point). Every single one of my former classmates are in fulltime EE jobs. I dont buy this for a second
 
VladDracule said:
Yeah this is completely untrue. My company (a smallish startup) has 30+ full time EE's. My degree and background is EE (im working as a software engineer at this point). Every single one of my former classmates are in fulltime EE jobs. I dont buy this for a second
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Must be a regional thing.
 
Dr. Righteous said:
My point it is doesn't take an engineer level education do this kind of thing; much of it is glorified monkey work.
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Right, supply chain management, particularly when sourcing potential conflict minerals, for a massive global company is...monkey work. I mean it must be if a woman has the job, right? Isn't that the gist of this thread? :rolleyes: :(

In the past week alone, there have been 2 final rules added to the Federal Register in regards to sanctions on the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the Central African Republic and the South Sudan.

LeninGHOLA said:
DRC Conflict minerals and RoHS compliance are a pain in the ass. Not to mention she is the supply chain director for a company like Intel. Has her doctorate... was an R&D engineer.

Yea, she's doing something right.
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So much easier to claw people down than to give someone kudos. So kudos to you, sir.
 
came to thread for knuckle dragging and chest thumping


was not disappointed
 
Ducman69 said:
How difficult is it to oversee a supply chain audit process for minerals, and what engineering knowledge would you need to accomplish that? She sounds more like her role is one of a public relations figurehead, and they probably like to take pictures of her doing charity events and the like for the corporation. Better to rename the title "Female Engineerishy people".
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Yea, because process / supply chain optimization is totally not a core competency of system engineers (which IS a legitimate engineering field by the way). Engineers also NEVER create and implement requirements for said processes. Hell, I'm sure she also doesn't do a significant amount of cost engineering for that entire process as well. Oh and doing these for a major multinational semiconductor manufacturer is TOTALLY a simple task to manage. :rolleyes:

You are obviously not an engineer.
 
Wrecked Em said:
Director of growth engineering? Seriously? Does that mean my stay at home wife is Vice President of Domestic Engineering?

Also, a pet peeve of mine is computer science getting the engineer label. In most states, it's technically illegal to call yourself an Engineer unless you've passed a PE exam and are registered.
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Uh, no it's not. You just can't offer engineering services without a PE on your staff.
 
kbrickley said:
That would be a bogus classification as probably only about 10% of engineers (or fewer) pursue the PE (and it is a mostly useless designation unless you are a civil engineer or in a few specific government positions) ... I have a BSME and have no need or desire to pursue a PE certification, but I am still an engineer ;)
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This.

Though I am an ME as well and I do have my PE. I haven't had a need for it yet.
 
Dr. Righteous said:
Got a buddy who is a bonafide electrical engineer. He said he quit trying to make a living at it. He would work a few months as a contractor and get laid off. Get hired by a different company, work for a few months. Project canceled; laid off. Was a repeating cycle. Nobody hires EEs as full time anymore. Now he does subcontractor work as a freelance technician and works out of his house.
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Sounds like your buddy shouldn't be an engineer...or needs to move to somewhere with a better engineering job market. I know many EE's who are getting poached straight out of school before they graduate.
 
I am so sick of glorifying Women in tech, Women in games, Women Execs, BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Get in the kitchen and make me a PIE DAMMIT!
 
VladDracule said:
Yeah this is completely untrue. My company (a smallish startup) has 30+ full time EE's. My degree and background is EE (im working as a software engineer at this point). Every single one of my former classmates are in fulltime EE jobs. I dont buy this for a second
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His buddy is probably incompetent.
 
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