TSMC Speeding Up Development Of 10nm Process?

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DigiTimes, citing anonymous industry sources, claims that TSMC is speeding up the development of its 10nm process in order to maintain its lead in the industry.

Samsung's development of its 14nm process has been faster than what TSMC has thought, pushing the Taiwan-based foundry house to accelerate the development of the 10nm technology in order to maintain its lead, commented the sources.
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Competition is awesome for consumers in lowering prices and keeping new technology flowing into our hands.
 
cageymaru said:
Competition is awesome for consumers in lowering prices and keeping new technology flowing into our hands.
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Truth but there arent many industries where true competition exists anymore. In PC's theres a few near monopolies such as Intel. And AMD just really started clawing its way back into the fight with NVidea, but mostly due to undercutting pricing.

Competition is great, and a necessary thing. Otherwise we end up with comcrap
 
Another reason to hold off mobile purchases until Snapdragon 810 since it'll most likely be 14nm:

Samsung Electronics, which reportedly has landed 14nm FinFET chip orders from Qualcomm, according to industry sources
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I love how these companies always talk of future processes but truth TSMC can't get 20nm out for advanced chips .
 
EdKiefer said:
I love how these companies always talk of future processes but truth TSMC can't get 20nm out for advanced chips .
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TSMC has been great at talking a big game without delivering for a long time now :p. The problem is, to truly move fast in fabs, you have to spend a ton of money. The reason Intel has 14nm fabs online now and nobody else does? They spend about $10 BILLION on R&D per year (and increasing).

Talk is cheap, developing new fabs is expensive as hell.
 
TSMS needs to make this happen, I mean for real this time. Skyrocketing R&D costs are pushing Intel into opening its fabs but not for direct competitors. No, no, no.

Been waiting for a new video card for 3 years but I see next to no progress. Manufacturing these things is getting harder and harder.
 
EdKiefer said:
I love how these companies always talk of future processes but truth TSMC can't get 20nm out for advanced chips .
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I was going to post that earlier. :)

This announcement could have been about 5nm and not made a difference in its substance.
 
Sycraft said:
TSMC has been great at talking a big game without delivering for a long time now :p. The problem is, to truly move fast in fabs, you have to spend a ton of money. The reason Intel has 14nm fabs online now and nobody else does? They spend about $10 BILLION on R&D per year (and increasing).

Talk is cheap, developing new fabs is expensive as hell.
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Yup. TSMC is pretty far behind with delay after delay. At least they were smart to co-develop 16nm at the same time as 20nm which will give them at least a couple more years to see how much 10nm is going to kick their ass (and it will).

They don't have the resources that Samsung or Intel have. Not only that, but 10nm and below is already sketchy at best being feasible. Time will tell. If 14nm kicked Intel's ass I can only think of how bad it'll be for everyone else.
 
Surprise to see it says "to maintain it's lead". I always thought Intel was the leading company when it comes to advancing technology node.
 
Hornet said:
Surprise to see it says "to maintain it's lead". I always thought Intel was the leading company when it comes to advancing technology node.
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Intel doesn't just lead, they dominate. For many years they've been a node ahead most of the time. Currently, they are TWO nodes ahead. They have 14nm fabs online right now. They've scaled back on the speed with which they are rolling it out, the Chandler fab has been suspended for the moment, because there's no real need to go full steam ahead yet and they can take more time getting the process perfected for launch later when they want.

Meanwhile there's been lots of chatter about 20nm from other companies but I've yet to see any products with 20nm CPUs in them. Intel has, of course, been doing 22nm for two years now.

As I noted earlier, there's no magic in it, Intel just outspends people on R&D. They play the long game and it has payed off big time. During the downturn they were one of the only companies that didn't cut R&D spending.

The payoff is they are way ahead in fab tech, and that translates to power advantages vs competitors.
 
EdKiefer said:
I love how these companies always talk of future processes but truth TSMC can't get 20nm out for advanced chips .
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Um, 20nm TSMC is already in mass production at Fab12 and ramping production at Fab14. The fact is TSMC is ramping production of 20nm much faster than 28nm. They expect to ship 300,000 wafers this year and 1M wafers in 2015.
 
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