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Watching this video makes me want one of these even less. If that was even possible. Your mileage may vary.
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I know I'm going to garner plenty of hate for this statement, but I think bikes and cars should have a specific, nation wide decibel limit with criminal consequences for exceeding that limit.
A good machine is one which is so silent, so well engineered, that you don't even know it's working.
I mean, do people at LAN parties turn up their fans and put loud speakers on their spinning HD clicks and whirs so that no one can miss it?
It's just ridiculous. Might as well wear a clown suit with neon signs pointing to your crotch and your junk hanging out.
I put playing cards in all my PC fans, that's how I know it's working.
Jokes aside, there's something about the low rumble of dino juice engines that makes me all excited, like I should be drinking whiskey and shooting guns at the same time. Super silent electric poindexter cars (and bikes) are just so... Sterile.
I know I'm going to garner plenty of hate for this statement, but I think bikes and cars should have a specific, nation wide decibel limit with criminal consequences for exceeding that limit.
A good machine is one which is so silent, so well engineered, that you don't even know it's working.
I mean, do people at LAN parties turn up their fans and put loud speakers on their spinning HD clicks and whirs so that no one can miss it?
It's just ridiculous. Might as well wear a clown suit with neon signs pointing to your crotch and your junk hanging out.
I agree that there should be a noise limit, however I think that limit does need to be much higher than cars.You can have the great sounding low rumble of a dino juice engine without having the obnoxiously ridiculous horrible sound that 99.9% of Harleys get by installing straight pipes on them three seconds after the owner signs on the dotted line.
Obnoxiously loud (and shitty sounding) is bad enough, but obnoxiously loud on something that's actually relatively slow just makes baby Jesus cry.
Your mileage may vary.
While a driver may hear an exceptionally loud back well before it reaches them, it's rare that a car driver will be able to locate the motorcycle exhaust sound until after the bike has passed them.
That renders the whole "Loud pipes save lives" argument as moot.
I don't know about you guys, but I definitely hear motorcycles when they are coming towards me. Sure, those pipes do direct most of the noise backwards, but they don't direct all of it backwards. There is noise reverberating off the side of their exposed mufflers, noise from the engine block itself, and of course the exhaust note that is exiting the muffler backwards but reflecting off of objects behind it.Speaking as a motorcyclist and driver, the problem with motorbikes is visibility. And having loud pipes DOES NOT help. Exhaust pipes (by necessity) direct all the output backwards, so the driver in the car that's cutting you off doesn't hear the sound of your engine because it's all blasted away from him. The people behind, however, and the pedestrians, cyclists and people trying to enjoy a quiet afternoon at home, all have to deal with the crapton of noise pollution you put out.
If loud pipes and noisy engines made them safer, there would be a statistical difference, for accidents and deaths involving motorcycles, between Harley owners and those that own other, quieter, brands. But there isn't, at all.
I don't know about you guys, but I definitely hear motorcycles when they are coming towards me. Sure, those pipes do direct most of the noise backwards, but they don't direct all of it backwards. There is noise reverberating off the side of their exposed mufflers, noise from the engine block itself, and of course the exhaust note that is exiting the muffler backwards but reflecting off of objects behind it.
Having a majority of the noise directed backwards isn't a bad thing either. Sure, I gave a poor example of a blind spot scenario that doesn't always happen. However, having a loud bike in front of you will make you want to back off and not ride them too closely. Keeping people from tailgating bikes due to loud noises can't be all that bad can it?
Also, keep in mind I said that there is a happy medium. I agree that some bikes are loud just for the sake of loud and probably do no one any good, especially not the rider who is going to lose situational awareness from not being able to hear a fucking thing. Happy medium guys...happy medium.
It's just ridiculous. Might as well wear a clown suit with neon signs pointing to your crotch and your junk hanging out.
In most places there ARE well defined decibel limits. The problem is that the police intentionally turn a blind eye towards loud motorcycles, even though (in Minnesota at least) motorcycles are held to the exact same noise limits as automobiles.
Laws are only as good as the police's willingness to enforce them.
No transmission means it's rubbish.
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Just the other day I was on a long road trip with my cousin, and there was a bike a good 200 feet up the highway from us that was so loud even at that distance that I had to raise my voice to speak to my her. I would have gladly floored it and run the guy over.I know I'm going to garner plenty of hate for this statement, but I think bikes and cars should have a specific, nation wide decibel limit with criminal consequences for exceeding that limit.
A good machine is one which is so silent, so well engineered, that you don't even know it's working.
I mean, do people at LAN parties turn up their fans and put loud speakers on their spinning HD clicks and whirs so that no one can miss it?
It's just ridiculous. Might as well wear a clown suit with neon signs pointing to your crotch and your junk hanging out.
Watching this video makes me want one of these even less. If that was even possible. Your mileage may vary.
I agree that there should be a noise limit, however I think that limit does need to be much higher than cars.
The reason is that loud exhausts are beneficial in a different way that most people don't realize. Your average American driver regardless of what they are driving is an absolute idiot. The loud exhausts on motorcycles can be heard over most car stereos and let your average fat suburban housewife hear that a motorcycle might be in their blindspot when they have 3 kids in the backseat screaming and watching spongebob at full volume.
There is a happy medium. A motorcycle that is obnoxiously loud a quarter mile away? Too loud. A motorcycle that is obnoxiously loud at 50 feet away? Much better.
I don't see why you need Harley noise for that. Besides, if you set your mirrors correctly, there is no blind spot.
Why the hell would you have a transmission with an electric motor?
I agree that there should be a noise limit, however I think that limit does need to be much higher than cars.
The reason is that loud exhausts are beneficial in a different way that most people don't realize. Your average American driver regardless of what they are driving is an absolute idiot. The loud exhausts on motorcycles can be heard over most car stereos and let your average fat suburban housewife hear that a motorcycle might be in their blindspot when they have 3 kids in the backseat screaming and watching spongebob at full volume.
There is a happy medium. A motorcycle that is obnoxiously loud a quarter mile away? Too loud. A motorcycle that is obnoxiously loud at 50 feet away? Much better.
never mind the hearing loss most hard core bike riders end up with
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92MPH top speed?
So, its basically a 30-60K scooter?
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