Using your own router with FIOS?

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arkk

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I am about to have FIOS installed when I move into a new home. It seems that they provide a router. Can I not use my existing ASUS AC66U with it? I've read that if you even can, it's a pain? Are you better just sticking it out with the Verizon router?

Thanks guys.
 
I just hook my router up to the DMZ on the FIOS router, then I control everything through my router.
 
You can use your own router if you have them convert the tap from the ONT to ethernet instead of coax. It's not that hard, they will do it for you if you ask.

However, I would advise against that if you plan on also using Fios TV. You will need their router (or an equivalent) to connect the set top boxes over coax. The set top boxes need a network connection in order to get guide data, etc, and if you have your router in front it almost never works right and isn't supported by them (big surprise!)
 
arkk said:
I am about to have FIOS installed when I move into a new home. It seems that they provide a router. Can I not use my existing ASUS AC66U with it? I've read that if you even can, it's a pain? Are you better just sticking it out with the Verizon router?

Thanks guys.
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The provided Actiontec router is pretty good, but you can use your own if you prefer and still leave the Actiontec router hooked up...Ive done it and it works very well.

there are pretty good instructions here http://www.dslreports.com/faq/verizonfios/3.0_Networking#12506
 
Are you going to have TV too, or only Internet? If Internet, see if they can use Ethernet instead of coax and then you can use the AC66U. But allow them to install the Actiontec router first since it is your to keep. Release DHCP and then install the AC66U afterwards.

I only had Internet and they installed Ethernet on my request, but it was s simple installation in one home. My new home is VDSL from FiOS and you can easily use a different router. If they must use coax you can use the AC66U as an AP, which I would recommend becuase of the need for it with FiOS TV. The Actiontec is excellent performance wise, but everything else it is a giant suck.

For AP mode you must first set it, then just give the AC66U an IP address manually, connect a cable from LAN to LAN and that is pretty much it sinc ethe wireless config will stay the same.
 
Eickst said:
You can use your own router if you have them convert the tap from the ONT to ethernet instead of coax. It's not that hard, they will do it for you if you ask.

However, I would advise against that if you plan on also using Fios TV. You will need their router (or an equivalent) to connect the set top boxes over coax. The set top boxes need a network connection in order to get guide data, etc, and if you have your router in front it almost never works right and isn't supported by them (big surprise!)
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It works fine. I use my own gateway with FIOS and simply have my ActionTec hooked up to bridge Ethernet to MOCA. STB work just the same.
 
You get ethernet from the ONT to your router. You can set the Actiontec as an ethernet to coax bridge (DSL Reports has a guide). I recommend you do it this way since the Actiontec has a very limited NAT table.
 
Easiest way to do it.
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And the incorrect way.Two NAT tables in one local network with a punched hole going to one router is not the way. Connection issue can likely occur, although, they may have not. There are many that have problems with this configuration with consoles and PC games.

As noted in the FAQ:

2. Secondary DMZ
Similar to #1, with secondary router as a DMZ address in the Actiontec. User router must be configured for a different subnet than the Actiontec. The WAN port on the user router must also be set to use either a static IP address on the Actiontec subnet, or obtain its WAN address via DHCP.

PRO:
• Simple config change to create DMZ address for secondary (user) router.
• Eliminates need to configure port forwarding in both routers. Port Forwards are configured in secondary (user) router only.
• No cabling changes.
• Can be used with either a coax or cat5 connection to the ONT.
• All current STB functionality supported. Guide, VOD, widgets, Remote DVR, On Screen Caller ID.

CON:
• Secondary (user) router is double NAT'ed.
• Still subject to small NAT table in the Actiontec. (Note only on older router models is the an issue with.)


I recommend you do it this way since the Actiontec has a very limited NAT table.
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This is not the case with the newer models. As noted with the FAQ: "Small NAT table issue (Actiontec Rev. A-D only)." Almost all installations now are given a rev. I. However, one negative quality is the fact that with rev. I the .11n cannot go above 65Mbps even in performance mode, and the most recent firmware has not resolved this issue as of yet.

The rev I is honestly a powerful router, but it configurations pages and how to configure the pages are a suck. It is not even close to the similarity of a SOHO router. Actually doing tables, and even configuring a Edge router is way easier.

Here is the FAQ for OP: http://www.dslreports.com/faq/verizonfios/3.0_Networking#16077
 
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