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Declaring email bankruptcy. We've all done it, we just didn't know what it was called until now. :D

On Dec. 31, I had 46,315 unread emails in my inbox. On my first day back to work in the new year, I had zero. No, I didn’t spend two weeks replying to all those messages. I deleted them — without reading a single one — and declared what is known as email bankruptcy.
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I don't understand why people delete emails... they don't take up that much space. So often I tell somebody, check your email I sent that to you XYZ time ago, and they of course inevitebly reply "well of course its deleted by NOW". Why of course?

Just ARCHIVE it, takes no longer, and hotmail/gmail/etc have tons of space, or put it on a PST. Is Rick James gunna hafta slap a bitch?
 
Ducman69 said:
I don't understand why people delete emails... they don't take up that much space. So often I tell somebody, check your email I sent that to you XYZ time ago, and they of course inevitebly reply "well of course its deleted by NOW". Why of course?

Just ARCHIVE it, takes no longer, and hotmail/gmail/etc have tons of space, or put it on a PST. Is Rick James gunna hafta slap a bitch?
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Maybe because I don't want to have 50GB of archive messages in my outlook?
 
Ducman69 said:
I don't understand why people delete emails... they don't take up that much space. So often I tell somebody, check your email I sent that to you XYZ time ago, and they of course inevitebly reply "well of course its deleted by NOW". Why of course?

Just ARCHIVE it, takes no longer, and hotmail/gmail/etc have tons of space, or put it on a PST. Is Rick James gunna hafta slap a bitch?
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Huh?
Person, meh, but business is another matter.
It totally depends on the content of the emails.
When I come back from vacation I usually have 100+ company emails in my box, and this is parsed from spam, junk, and automatically generated status update emails. All the things I don't need to see is filtered and this leaves the ones I need to browse though. Often there are attachments with spread sheets and other docs. BUT a months worth of just the important stuff can add up to 2-3 gig.
I usually keep 2 months worth in my inbox and delete everything else prior just to keep the size down.
 
LOCO LAPTOP said:
Maybe because I don't want to have 50GB of archive messages in my outlook?
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Unless you rev millions email ever day that you need to keep that not going in your life time, I only have less then 300MB and I have email that go back 15 years.
 
shspvr said:
Unless you rev millions email ever day that you need to keep that not going in your life time, I only have less then 300MB and I have email that go back 15 years.
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I hit my 250MB Inbox capacity 2x/week due to the number of emails I receive a day.

My 2013.pst is 3.58GB. I do not delete emails though, everything is saved for the record.

You must not receive many emails!
 
LOCO LAPTOP said:
Maybe because I don't want to have 50GB of archive messages in my outlook?
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Are people emailing you bluray quality porn attachments? I have yet to meet anyone that actually completely filled their gmail account, and its not like you sift through emails by hand, you just do an archive search when you're looking for something.

Besides, isn't gmail capped at around 210GB now? And by the time you hit 100GB, they will probably have bumped it to 500GB.
 
WinSomeLoseNone said:
My 2013.pst is 3.58GB. I do not delete emails though, everything is saved for the record.
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Even that though isn't so bad. 2TB laptop harddrives are relatively cheap now, as are 4TB desktop drives.

A single bluray movie is like 40GB, so all in all, there is no good reason to worry about the size of emails adding up. Most are text, and text takes up virtually no space.
 
Bah! You'll should see some of our group mails accounts. 50k+ and 15gig strong, each!
 
Ducman69 said:
I don't understand why people delete emails... they don't take up that much space. So often I tell somebody, check your email I sent that to you XYZ time ago, and they of course inevitebly reply "well of course its deleted by NOW". Why of course?

Just ARCHIVE it, takes no longer, and hotmail/gmail/etc have tons of space, or put it on a PST. Is Rick James gunna hafta slap a bitch?
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Because frankly they are dumb. I never delete work emails. I archive them once a month. So my inbox is always small but I have records of everything. There is nothing better than being in a meeting having done douche trying to throw you under the bus lying their ass off and pulling emails out of an archive and calling them out.
 
Ducman69 said:
Are people emailing you bluray quality porn attachments? I have yet to meet anyone that actually completely filled their gmail account, and its not like you sift through emails by hand, you just do an archive search when you're looking for something.

Besides, isn't gmail capped at around 210GB now? And by the time you hit 100GB, they will probably have bumped it to 500GB.
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I'm using my company email. Anything that happens I get an emails. New signs ups, server goes down or reboots, provider goes up/down, mail marked as spam, Generator starting/stopping, ect.

Personal emails however is a different story. Between my Gmail and Hotmail account like 2gb tops since they were created.
 
shspvr said:
Unless you rev millions email ever day that you need to keep that not going in your life time, I only have less then 300MB and I have email that go back 15 years.
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It's a good thing you don't work for a job like mine. Getting 1-6 MB attachments is very common place in my job and if I let it store over time, I can easily break the 1GB barrier in less than a month. Plus they're backed up by a secondary source so if we were to get audited by the Federal Government, they're available (I work for Boeing so audit threats are real).
 
@ the VA, we use Zantaz EAS that archives at the server farm to a massive continuously growing SAN. Its helpful, so ya, I have mail from 10 years of civil service.. never delete anything of value.. need the paper trail baby! CYA!
 
WinSomeLoseNone said:
I hit my 250MB Inbox capacity 2x/week due to the number of emails I receive a day.

My 2013.pst is 3.58GB. I do not delete emails though, everything is saved for the record.

You must not receive many emails!
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I do rev lot email but 95% of it is just spam junk
I don't account for attach files or nor any out going mail attach file
 
At work my Inbox is limited to 100MB so I have to do a lot of mail management. I receive about 85 email a day with most containing attachments. It builds up fast.

At home I have emails that go all the way back to 2005 totaling 4.1GB.
 
My Outlook archive is over 30gb and growing faster and faster each day. I wish I could delete emails but having that history for work is really valuable.

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Dr. Righteous said:
Huh?
Person, meh, but business is another matter.
It totally depends on the content of the emails.
When I come back from vacation I usually have 100+ company emails in my box, and this is parsed from spam, junk, and automatically generated status update emails. All the things I don't need to see is filtered and this leaves the ones I need to browse though. Often there are attachments with spread sheets and other docs. BUT a months worth of just the important stuff can add up to 2-3 gig.
I usually keep 2 months worth in my inbox and delete everything else prior just to keep the size down.
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Consider yourself lucky. At my last job, my boss decided it was a good idea to make sure I got every email for every event in our bug database. Do you know how many notifications are sent to a database like that in a large software development corporation?

I literally couldn't delete emails fast enough to actually see any useful emails.
 
At home, I generally delete the BS stuff, and file the important stuff.

At work - I save everything and create a new PST every year. So this years emails go into the 2014 PST, but I can still view the mail from 2010,2011, 2012, etc. This saves me a lot of time when someone proposes an idea that was hashed out in previous years because I can point out that it was shot down previously for whatever reason or why it would work this time.

I also back up the previous years PST to DVD just in case. ;)
 
I only archive emails that I involve any sort of transaction that I do. All my bills automatically go to a bill folder so I don't have to wade through them, any sort of receipt I get from any purchase I put in another folder manually, I don't even look at my auto-spam folder and randomly purge it. Personal conversations or pictures someone sends me? Goes in the "Trash" folder after I read it.

Some people get gigabytes worth of emails that aren't spam? Guess that's due to a lot of attachments probably work related?
 
So.. "email bankruptcy" is just the lazy version of "inbox zero".. hopefully this kind of "bankruptcy" doesn't effect your credit score!!
 
I hate people who use email for storage purposes at work, people are getting a cut back on mailbox size here to 1Gig ideally.

I have some people with 4-6Gig mail boxes on our exchange because

1. They hord everything
2. They send large attachments when there are proper network shares to use.

If something is important - save it to your docs or elsewhere which in turn is on a folder redirect to a server

If a contact is important, save it in YOUR CONTACTS, not just keep their email to reference back to for the next 10 years.

i get anywhere from 20-100 emails a day, server reports, service desk tickets and other comm's, and i check them all as i need to and delete what i dont need.
 
I hate having a large mailbox so I delete everything I can delete ASAP.
if I need to scroll in my inbox I'm either on vacation or dead.

I don't understand people that keep thousand of e-mails, plus, we're capped at 500mb at work so even if I wanted to hoard emails I wouldn't be able to.
 
^^ try telling accounting they cant keep all those invoices and excel files in their email......

even though they are all logged in accounting systems.....
 
MrGuvernment said:
^^ try telling accounting they cant keep all those invoices and excel files in their email......

even though they are all logged in accounting systems.....
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Before we upgraded we had like 100mb per person, I was in charge of telling people they needed to cut it down a bit.
One supervisor who was a bit insane went ape shit when I told him he needed to reduce the size of his mailbox otherwise his e-mail would be blocked.

It went something like :

Oh, you want me to clean my e-mails eh? Well look at this, I'll clean those fucking e-mails.
CTRL-A, Shift-Delete

I was still in my first month at this company so I just Bertstare the guy and left.
 
I started saving every email since 2000. I have a backup folder that I just copy email to when the main mailbox starts slowing down cause of 1000s of emails in it.
 
Vorret said:
Before we upgraded we had like 100mb per person, I was in charge of telling people they needed to cut it down a bit.
One supervisor who was a bit insane went ape shit when I told him he needed to reduce the size of his mailbox otherwise his e-mail would be blocked.

It went something like :

Oh, you want me to clean my e-mails eh? Well look at this, I'll clean those fucking e-mails.
CTRL-A, Shift-Delete

I was still in my first month at this company so I just Bertstare the guy and left.
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Lol

"Your compliance is appreciated."
 
whooo, e-peen contest about who got the biggest outlook archive!

"I'm so important, i get trillions of mails per day"
"my archive is bigger than ur mom!"
"my mailbox is actually just a garbage dump of a hundred thousand mails, but i archive them so... i will just repeat 'archive' (sounds so professional)"
"i'm only as important as dilbert, but in a meeting i can call out someone with my... ARCHIVE! that makes me feel so important"
"i love waiting for minutes until the search result of my ARCHIVE has finished because omg look at those billions of most gigabytes ever!"
 
temujin987 said:
whooo, e-peen contest about who got the biggest outlook archive!

"I'm so important, i get trillions of mails per day"
"my archive is bigger than ur mom!"
"my mailbox is actually just a garbage dump of a hundred thousand mails, but i archive them so... i will just repeat 'archive' (sounds so professional)"
"i'm only as important as dilbert, but in a meeting i can call out someone with my... ARCHIVE! that makes me feel so important"
"i love waiting for minutes until the search result of my ARCHIVE has finished because omg look at those billions of most gigabytes ever!"
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Versus the "I don't keep anything more than 100MB, so why would anyone else need to" group????
 
Ducman69 said:
Even that though isn't so bad. 2TB laptop harddrives are relatively cheap now, as are 4TB desktop drives.

A single bluray movie is like 40GB, so all in all, there is no good reason to worry about the size of emails adding up. Most are text, and text takes up virtually no space.
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I'm not aware of a 2TB laptop hard drive in existence. There are 2TB 2.5inch drives but they are 15mm height and generally won't fit inside a laptop.
 
Seems a lot of people don't understand how valuable it is to keep email in their boxes. While it may not apply to some people, searching for emails to discuss a certain circumstance is rather useful. We're not omnipotent so we cannot remember every waking detail of our work lives. There are shit I did 5 months ago I don't remember doing but as long I have an email to fall back on, I can resolve those issues without any problems. Instead it's just another chain of emails to break down the problem. I work in server management which I assist in managing thousands of servers. Do I know everything in those servers? Fuck no. I only know what I know. Policy, compliance, my daily routine, that matters. Everything is secondary to remember because it's impossible to keep that in your head. So email is the next best thing even if it's stupid and 1 sentence long.
 
I feel upset, I have a whopping 25MB on my company email account.
Perhaps I'm just not important enough.
 
Ducman69 said:
Are people emailing you bluray quality porn attachments? I have yet to meet anyone that actually completely filled their gmail account, and its not like you sift through emails by hand, you just do an archive search when you're looking for something.

Besides, isn't gmail capped at around 210GB now? And by the time you hit 100GB, they will probably have bumped it to 500GB.
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You know not everyone has gmail... I have run into plenty of people who have email accounts that have hit their limit.
 
For work I get around 200 emails a day AFTER my autosorting rules sort out the most obvious of the automated trash. Coming back from vacation sucks, it takes almost an entire day to get through 1000+ emails. Of that 1000 maybe 10-15 have anything to do with anything I am working on or concern me.

I used to delete after 60 days because I kept hitting the outlook PST limit on the corporate server (1gb). But I started to just archive by month/quarter instead of deleting... I was missing out on important information that you just couldn't forsee would be useful when someone sent it 2+ months ago.

Big attachments are the killer, and everyone loves to "reply to all" on those threads which can turn a 5mb PPT attachment into hundreds of megs super quick.

I wish wish wish Outlook would let you sort meeting invites seperately from regular emails... for some reason those don't like to archive easily and more often than not have a nasty sized attachment (presentation, etc).

I will run out of hard drive space some day I guess.... the work laptop only has a 120gb SSD. And the DVD burner and USB ports are disabled for security reasons. No idea what I will do then, they don't give us online storage space for hundreds of gigs.

This quote cracked me up : “If email was invented today, it probably would not have survived as a technology,” Mr. Suarez said. “Social and public sites are much more efficient.”

Clearly that dude has never worked in a big corporate environment.
 
damicatz said:
I'm not aware of a 2TB laptop hard drive in existence. There are 2TB 2.5inch drives but they are 15mm height and generally won't fit inside a laptop.
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Oops, how embarrassing. I've seen a bunch of the portable small external drives on sale lately, and assumed they were standard size. Looks like 1TB standard size are only about $75, so despite the exaggeration the point still stands IMO that storage capacity is increasing rapidly and massively eclipsing requirements for mere email archival.

Personally, I don't have any issues with search times on my email either, so I don't buy stock in that excuse. And yes, I do delete my SPAM folder, but to delete legitimate emails... that's so 90s. Pfft!!!

Reminds me of that Captain Bolvan douchecanoe on the Devestator that refused to fire on the escape pod, because, you know, they are paying by the laser... stingy ass bastard.
 
Subfolders, automatic filters.

My inbox (by which I mean "my five inboxes across five accounts, that all appear in my single email program as a single inbox) rarely contains more than a dozen messages. Right now, I have one email in my inbox. It is the "how to warranty RMA your item" email that has my RMA number. I'll be sending the item off tomorrow, then filing the email.

The only emails that come directly to my inbox are the ones that are "unique" in some way. Everything else is auto-filed. Related to "xyz" project? Go to that folder. To "abc" mailing list? To that folder. From my "gaming group" of friends? Got a folder for that. From family? Yup, got a folder. Expense report? Folder. Email receipt? Auto-filed.

Ironically, this means that what little spam gets through my spam filters ends up being a decent percentage of what goes directly to my inbox. I'd say that 33% of my direct-to-inbox emails are spam. (Which still isn't a large number of total messages per day, so even that high spam-to-real-message ratio is perfectly manageable.)
 
temujin987 said:
whooo, e-peen contest about who got the biggest outlook archive!

"I'm so important, i get trillions of mails per day"
"my archive is bigger than ur mom!"
"my mailbox is actually just a garbage dump of a hundred thousand mails, but i archive them so... i will just repeat 'archive' (sounds so professional)"
"i'm only as important as dilbert, but in a meeting i can call out someone with my... ARCHIVE! that makes me feel so important"
"i love waiting for minutes until the search result of my ARCHIVE has finished because omg look at those billions of most gigabytes ever!"
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Look at me! I don't have a job that revolves around email so I'm going to insult everyone who does to feel important!

Has nothing to do with epeen. Just a simple statement of fact on how a great deal many corporate jobs work. Any job that you have to primarily communicate with email requires you to have a proper means to manage it. Sure if 90% of the email you get is garbage, then deleting is fine. However for those where that isn't the case, deleting your "paper trail" is straight up stupidity.
 
temujin987 said:
whooo, e-peen contest about who got the biggest outlook archive!

"I'm so important, i get trillions of mails per day"
"my archive is bigger than ur mom!"
"my mailbox is actually just a garbage dump of a hundred thousand mails, but i archive them so... i will just repeat 'archive' (sounds so professional)"
"i'm only as important as dilbert, but in a meeting i can call out someone with my... ARCHIVE! that makes me feel so important"
"i love waiting for minutes until the search result of my ARCHIVE has finished because omg look at those billions of most gigabytes ever!"
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Looks like I have a bigger e-peen than you.

Also you're right, it's impossible for people on the internet to be important in any way shape or form. Oh, and we all live in our parent's basement and drive a 1980 Ford Fiesta.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
Because frankly they are dumb. I never delete work emails. I archive them once a month. So my inbox is always small but I have records of everything. There is nothing better than being in a meeting having done douche trying to throw you under the bus lying their ass off and pulling emails out of an archive and calling them out.
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LOL Had this happen to me at work many years ago. In a meeting had a boss blatantly lie to my face and others about some policy decision and I had a written email from him sent to me weeks prior disproving him. I calmly talked to him after then meeting and he was very defensive when I mentioned the email and he reasserted his position and made me look like a liar. I pulled the archive and printed it out and showed it to him. Suddenly things changed in my favor. :)
CYA archives while unfortunate, are a must for career survival. This is why most folks in management are taught to keep certain things "verbal" and/or ambiguous so it won't come back to bite you in the butt.
 
WinSomeLoseNone said:
Looks like I have a bigger e-peen than you.

Also you're right, it's impossible for people on the internet to be important in any way shape or form. Oh, and we all live in our parent's basement and drive a 1980 Ford Fiesta.
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Archive everything. Important, career saving emails are never resent.
 
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