Celebrities Want NSA Spying To Stop

Yeah that is sad, but how else will the masses remember or think about what they saw if they just see another random person saying the same stuff. Oh well, popcorn time..
 
I want the NSA to stop spying on us as much as the next guy.

However, everytime I hear of a celebrity getting behind a political cause, I think of the Film Actors Guild from Team America, then suddenly stop taking them seriously. I doubt the US government or NSA gives 2 shits about celebs.

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Imagine if this video was made 10 years ago, think of the vitriol and spite these individuals would of received from the media, and the country as a whole. Dixie Chicks comes to mind. At least this is a sign of the times changing...
 
If you aren't doing anything wrong you shouldnt care about mass spying. They're just trying to catch the 'bad guys'.


(Not really, Fuck the NSA and CIA)
 
People in Hell want ice water too.
And if you don't believe in Hell...
People in the DMV would like prompt service despite 12 people behind the counter and somehow nothing is happening....
 
Better yet...what happened to Maggie Gyllenhaal?! She looks like she is 50 years old now :eek:
 
Funny how Nixon gets bashed for over 50 years by the media over one wiretap, while Obama gets a pass from most even after a billion wiretaps.
 
Term-X said:
Better yet...what happened to Maggie Gyllenhaal?! She looks like she is 50 years old now :eek:
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Which is very sad...that was the shocking part of the video....
perhaps they didn't have hair & makeup.....or at least a pro H&M person....
 
BladeVenom said:
Funny how Nixon gets bashed for over 50 years by the media over one wiretap, while Obama gets a pass from most even after a billion wiretaps.
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He also gets a pass for using the IRS to bully political opponents (Tea Party) or someone with a different viewpoint who speaks out at a public event that he's at (Dr. Ben Carson).
 
BladeVenom said:
Funny how Nixon gets bashed for over 50 years by the media over one wiretap, while Obama gets a pass from most even after a billion wiretaps.
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A single wiretap is a crime. A billion wiretaps are a statistic.*

*No apologies to the Georgian psychopath.
 
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found
out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon
them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words
or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the
endurance of those whom they oppress."

Frederick Douglass

 
I always thought she was "cute", but I think I might vomit if I saw her naked; but I would still totally bang her.

You know?
 
BladeVenom said:
Funny how Nixon gets bashed for over 50 years by the media over one wiretap, while Obama gets a pass from most even after a billion wiretaps.
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Yea that's the idea of the video. People will start to care when it gets worse as usual. Most people I know at school didn't even pay attention to it at all. Not to mention the Shutdown basically buried it across the national stage (and international) its partly why it needs to be kept in the spotlight.

If people don't wanna give a shit then no one can say they were not clearly warned.
 
You know what I just noticed about that video? Not a single mention of the President. They talk about Nixon, but he's been dead for 20 years. Not a single mention of Obama.

Funny, that. Almost like they don't believe enough in their cause to call anyone out that they might have spent time endorsing.

Somehow, I'm guessing if this video had come out six years ago, that would have been different.
 
My greatest worry at the moment is that Obama is the red herring of this political game. He's despised by the right, and becoming so by the left. The moderates dislike him from both angles. It reminds me far too much of historical situations where a largely disliked leader who has competency issues is then suddenly replaced by a charismatic cult of personality who wants far more control and uses all of the headway in that area from predecessors to accomplish it. Hell, he has clearly done that to an extent, and he most certainly has a cult of personality, that much was blatantly obvious in 2008 and again last year. Perhaps I'm making much ado about nothing but I simply refuse to believe we have transcended beyond our petty political maneuverings that became the credo in the 20th century. Especially given how effective such methodology has become.
 
Nixon got in trouble not because he was spying but because the spying was done for political purposes to influence the election - disrupting democracy.

This current NSA issue is a program initiated by the NSA - not directly related to any plan by the Commander in Chief.

https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline

The start of this is rooted in the post-9/11 security and surveillance changes. Blaming it on Bush or Obama is stupid. Bush MAY have signed something which allowed them to amass these powers but it was likely vague enough that no one envisioned it getting to this. Not really his fault. Neither he nor Obama can or could really go in and be like "fuck this you guys are done!" Both seem to have been briefed that all domestic spying was done with the approval of the FISA? or something courts.


If you want to get something changed, you've gotta write your congressman to get a law drafted to put in more oversight and limit the NSA's domestic capabilities. This needs more inertia than it has. Right now it's just a bunch of whiners on the internet blaming it on Nobama, Bush, or Mark Whalberg or whatever other off-base crap people have come up with.
 
I didn't know the NSA was autonomous and that Army Generals didn't report to the Commander-in-Chief.

I guess the buck doesn't stop.
 
Whoops. I meant to type "I guess the BLACK doesn't stop."

Yeah, that's the ticket. :D
 
Well, at the moment almost all communications is done digitally and passes through just a few common communications arrays. It's very hard to analyze the traffic without capturing it all and then sorting through the metadata looking for patterns and associations.

Until someone can come up with a way to get the job done without risking personal privacy rights it's not going to change. It's because of the nature of digital communications.

Now if you can come up with a new structure for communications that is at least as efficient or even more so, but the new structure is different and doesn't mash all the traffic through common data pathways, then you have a chance to change things.

I laugh wholeheartedly at Merkel complaining about being listened to when the Germans and everyone else has been doing the same thing for at least 70 years.

An old saying, "There may be friendly nations, but there are no friendly intelligence services."
 
lcpiper said:
Well, at the moment almost all communications is done digitally and passes through just a few common communications arrays. It's very hard to analyze the traffic without capturing it all and then sorting through the metadata looking for patterns and associations.

Until someone can come up with a way to get the job done without risking personal privacy rights it's not going to change. It's because of the nature of digital communications.

Now if you can come up with a new structure for communications that is at least as efficient or even more so, but the new structure is different and doesn't mash all the traffic through common data pathways, then you have a chance to change things.

I laugh wholeheartedly at Merkel complaining about being listened to when the Germans and everyone else has been doing the same thing for at least 70 years.

An old saying, "There may be friendly nations, but there are no friendly intelligence services."
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I'll just say that the Internet wasn't an accident, a design by the government and a handful of universities from the 1950's, conveniently unleashed on the public in the 1990's. Looking at everything that is in place now, survelliance of the American people has been a long time coming.

Next up is unmanned drones.
 
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