Launch of 290x and 290's delayed?

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no, they would not.

They do not want nvidia to know the pricing.
 
sparks said:
its a 780 but draws a lot more so you know its going to be a bitch to cool
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You should read the link completely. They used Furmark to test power, which nvidia cards detect and throttle for.
 
furmark is designed to push thermals as high as possible, its not a realistic TDP benchmark.
 
Thanks I didn't know that

N fan boy ....yep N knows how to protect your eq
A fan boy ....yep N even cheats at that test

LOL
 
The Mac said:
furmark is designed to push thermals as high as possible, its not a realistic TDP benchmark.
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sparks said:
Thanks I didn't know that

N fan boy ....yep N knows how to protect your eq
A fan boy ....yep N even cheats at that test

LOL
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Used to be designed to push thermal as high as possible. Furmark basically found a design hole in GPUs, and would burn out cards. Thanks to that find, cards now dynamically throttle back under heavy load (electrical current, temperature). At one point yes they detected the binary running via the driver. I don't know if they still need that mechanism now. The product is designed to play games, under game-type work loads. Unfortunately, imho the GPU-equivalent of a CPU is a $$$$ compute gfx card.
 
Its actually known to blow out cards, which is why Nvidia throttles it.

edit: rats, ninjaed...
 
I'm betting on an Oct 24th or earlier release of reviews. There are a few signs out there that point to that being the latest date for the NDA to be lifted.
 
Broons said:
The 290 and 290x are beginning to seem like vaporware to me. Really expected to see some write ups today but oh well. AMD needs to realize that people are not patient. We want what we want when we want it.
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why because you fell for the bait and thought the 15th was suppose to be the NDA lift date even though AMD never publicly said what that date was going to be. where the hell did everyone get this "oct 15th" date from anyways, a little common sense given how heavily promoted the card is with BF4 is that the card would release with BF4, typically NDA's are lifted between 24 hours to 7 days before the card release which would put oct 22nd as the possible first date of it being lifted not the 15th. which in turn i'm betting will be the same day the pre-orders start for the BF4 bundle.
 
In regards to the promo: Most likely 25th

Promotion Period: Promotion Period begins October 25, 2013 and ends on March 31, 2014. Eligible AMD Product must be purchased during Promotional Period. AMD Unique ID Codes must be used to obtain EA Origin® Product Code by April 30, 2014, after which the
AMD Unique ID Code is void.
 
AceCR42 said:
You should read the link completely. They used Furmark to test power, which nvidia cards detect and throttle for.
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AMD also throttles Furmark.

FurMark ended up being harder on the 7990 than we expected. Both NVIDIA and AMD throttle it of course, but we’ve never seen it throttled so hard as on the 7990. The 7990 completely stalled at times and momentarily dropped to its medium power state (500MHz) while running FurMark. The results are still enlightening since we’re clearly hitting it peak power limits regardless, but it’s not a very good sustained load in this case.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6915/amd-radeon-hd-7990-review-7990-gets-official/16
 
This whole 290 release thing...I can't help but be reminded of the bulldozer launch lol.
 
ikarinokami said:
AMD has totally bungled this launch.
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Product launches are largely marketing exercises. You understand that AMD's desire to build some hype (get people talking about their new product) and your desire to know everything about the 290x are slightly at odds right?

I've been sitting here a while thinking about how to explain this marketing concept to you and I'm failing. Here's my best attempt:

Right now we're at the stage of people on enthusiast hardware sites wanting more information (ie: it's still a small number). When lots of people want more information about the 290x then AMD will release it. The unwashed masses will want to know about the card around the time BF4 doesn't work well on their computer. Information about the cards will probably be out a week before then so that it has a chance to propagate to the various news sites that "normal" people read.
 
rdqlus said:
Product launches are largely marketing exercises. You understand that AMD's desire to build some hype (get people talking about their new product) and your desire to know everything about the 290x are slightly at odds right?

I've been sitting here a while thinking about how to explain this marketing concept to you and I'm failing. Here's my best attempt:

Right now we're at the stage of people on enthusiast hardware sites wanting more information (ie: it's still a small number). When lots of people want more information about the 290x then AMD will release it. The unwashed masses will want to know about the card around the time BF4 doesn't work well on their computer. Information about the cards will probably be out a week before then so that it has a chance to propagate to the various news sites that "normal" people read.
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the problem is that they annouced it, talked about, but didnt give a price. so now you have all these sites giving all these differennt pre-order prices, that mean nothing, because they are just guessing, so you order might not be honored, rampant misinformation. you will note that even before we know when the xbox one and ps4 were going to to launch, we knew the price. At the very least, they should have stated the price, so at least the prr-oders would have some semblence of order.
 
ikarinokami said:
the problem is that they annouced it, talked about, but didnt give a price. so now you have all these sites giving all these differennt pre-order prices, that mean nothing, because they are just guessing, so you order might not be honored, rampant misinformation. you will note that even before we know when the xbox one and ps4 were going to to launch, we knew the price. At the very least, they should have stated the price, so at least the prr-oders would have some semblence of order.
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Do you think AMD stands to make more or less money by telling you the price right now? Given that they haven't told you I'm pretty sure what they think. They're probably not wrong. They know where this product fits in the marketplace and they're almost certainly guarding pricing information because they want to see if similarly performing cards receive a price adjustment as a result of their announcement.
 
rdqlus said:
Do you think AMD stands to make more or less money by telling you the price right now? Given that they haven't told you I'm pretty sure what they think. They're probably not wrong. They know where this product fits in the marketplace and they're almost certainly guarding pricing information because they want to see if similarly performing cards receive a price adjustment as a result of their announcement.
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I don't know about anybody else, but they made less off of me. I was waffling back and forth between an SG10 and a high performance card or an SG06 and a more modest card, and with the wait on any real data whatsoever, plus the annoyance caused by same, I decided to go the SG06 route and a non-AMD card.
 
AceGoober said:
How did AMD bungle a launch when no launch date was announced? No offense intended, just curious.
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Of course it is AMD's fault for not giving an official launch date!! :D So people have to believe any rumors floating on the Internet.

And if AMD does not launch on the rumored date which somebody just made up, it means that they delayed the launch because they are simply incompetent. [post=1040282429]Or so the logic goes.[/post] :rolleyes:
 
rdqlus said:
Do you think AMD stands to make more or less money by telling you the price right now? Given that they haven't told you I'm pretty sure what they think. They're probably not wrong. They know where this product fits in the marketplace and they're almost certainly guarding pricing information because they want to see if similarly performing cards receive a price adjustment as a result of their announcement.
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Oh come on, everyone knows that some random person on the internet knows more than an entire marketing department. Get with the times grandpa.
 
I know i do.

I know waaayyyyy more than an entire sales and marketing department of a multi miliion dollar corporation...


lol
 
The Mac said:
I know i do.

I know waaayyyyy more than an entire sales and marketing department of a multi miliion dollar corporation...


lol
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Personally I'm getting a kick out of all the fanboys on both sides frothing at the mouth over was is basically nothing more than "same shit different day" when it comes to a video card. Yes I want the new card, but jesus, the amount of entitlement some of these people have is staggering. It's the Apple generation I guess.
 
I used to complain about the rampant entitlement around these days, but i realized that its now the accepted norm, not the exception, so i gave up.
 
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