4770K and CPU bound games. E.G: Planetside 2/ARMAIII

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cenumis

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Alright so I was waiting for Haswell to drop so I could upgrade my 2600K @ 4.8Ghz to a 4770K to help out with CPU bound games. Planetside 2 and ARMA type games as an example. Now with the drop of Haswell and the (so far) terrible overclocks, I'm feeling worried with the chance of bad silicon lottery.

What's everyone's opinions on this? Will we see much improvement from a 4.5ghz 4770K from a 4.8ghz 2600k/3770k?

Note: Already got my gtx 780 and I'm only on a 1080p screen so GPU power isn't really an issue.

Update:
Have a quick update. First CPU I tried, booted at 1.25v into Windows. A little tweak and was stable in aida64 and 3d mark for an hour or so. Temps where around 80c. Using an enermax 240 aio so temps could get a lot better. If I can get it to 4.7-8 and 90c I'll buy it.
Testing another one tomorrow to see if there is an improvement but I'm happy with this chip so far.

Will post pics tomorrow, left work for now and on the mobile phone. If anyone has a request, I'll be happy to help them out.

Update 2:
This was running stable for a while yesterday, didn't have time to take a pic but 4.6 @ 1.28 was stable in AIDA64 for 3 hours. I'm not too impressed. Won't be buying.
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It would be more of a side-grade at best. 2600k's at 4.8, still do the job quite fine for games. The only worthwhile upgrade for you, imo, would be jumping ship to lga2011 and picking up a 3930k.
 
Not really worth it, 4.8GHz on a 2600K is a good high OC already and playing around troubleshooting a new build don't really combine to ensure spending the money is worth it IMHO.

A new build would mainly be for things like PCI-E 3.0 and Thunderbolt or maybe a better onboard audio or maybe just a nicer motherboard /UFEI implementation.

Even if you happen to find a Haswell that hits 5.0Ghz the boost over a 4.8Ghz 2600K might be 10-15% in games? I'd rather invest in a 2560x1440 monitor..

I also have a 2600K and I'm probably not even going to look at a new CPU until we see SATA-express and DDR4 with some kind of updated Quad channel Haswell-E or whatever Intel brings out on 14nm.

Cpu limited games are weird too so hopefully with both main consoles moving to multi-core X86 chip will mean more games will just scale better and AMD will get back to pushing Intel instead of chasing the middle ground so we get a measurable performance jump next major release for both CPUs and GPUs
 
That's what all my google research has been telling me, too. Hopefully when the retail CPU's get tested by [H], we see better results compared to his loaned CPU. I have a 4770K sitting next to me at work wanting me to buy it! It's tempting just to get my tinker on. :(
 
Wait to see if Haswell oc improves and if it doesnt go IB-E.
 
I guess IB-E may be the best upgrade path after all. Have to just wait it out for now.
 
tonyftw said:
It would be more of a side-grade at best. 2600k's at 4.8, still do the job quite fine for games. The only worthwhile upgrade for you, imo, would be jumping ship to lga2011 and picking up a 3930k.
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For Planetside 2, that would be a downgrade, not an upgrade, and a very expensive one at that. Single core performance is king. If you do upgrade, go with Haswell over any 39x0 chip.
 
tonyftw said:
It would be more of a side-grade at best. 2600k's at 4.8, still do the job quite fine for games. The only worthwhile upgrade for you, imo, would be jumping ship to lga2011 and picking up a 3930k.
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Yep. +1
 
Not really worth playing the silicon lottery. With a 2600K at 4.8ghz, you pretty much have to win the silicon lottery to see any improvement. And even if you do win, you're at best looking at like a 3-5fps increase in those large battle CPU limited situations. Sadly, what you have is about as good as it gets right now in PS2, and its up to the devs to improve performance.
 
It seems there is no such thing as a "best" option now.

I want better CPU performance on BF3 and it looks like going Hex Core will give me that but at the same time, for games like PS2, it's probably a slight downgrade or parity at best.
 
Just a quick update.
I have the luxury of working at a computer store in Australia and I'm going to be opening some 4770k's today with a friend and see if they OC well. Who needs lottery when you can cheat? :p , I'll use a Asus z87 Pro and H100, too. I'll report back if I find any good ones. Also, thanks a lot for all the suggestions and help. I'll take everything into consideration to see if I keep my 2600K or not.
 
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@OP: I am not sure why you would even bother. Or how you can even feel "CPU" limited...
I have a modest rig and feel just fine in PS2... (I do play with settings lowered obviously, but still, come on).
 
cenumis said:
Just a quick update.
I have the luxury of working at a computer store in Australia and I'm going to be opening some 4770k's today with a friend and see if they OC well. Who needs lottery when you can cheat? :p , I'll use a Asus z87 Pro and H100, too. I'll report back if I find any good ones. Also, thanks a lot for all the suggestions and help. I'll take everything into consideration to see if I keep my 2600K or not.
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Don't you find that unethical?
 
Joseph F said:
Don't you find that unethical?
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No. We don't re-sell them. We get units from suppliers that are used for display systems/marketing and sales training etc. Boss would destroy me if I opened and played with store stock! :D
 
Intel is not obligated to help clueless video game designers :)

Everything I've read states that Planetside 2 uses at-most 2 CPU cores. These are expected to handle software Physx for hundreds of simultaneous players, and handle software shadows (like Skyrim), all on two CPU cores!

Some Benchmark results for CPU scaling in PS2
 
Have you turned off Hyperthreading?

With a 2 core max game you would probably see a boost if you haven't already done this.
 
EODetroit said:
For Planetside 2, that would be a downgrade, not an upgrade, and a very expensive one at that. Single core performance is king. If you do upgrade, go with Haswell over any 39x0 chip.
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Unless the games you're playing are actually going to use those extra threads, that's a lot of money for no upgrade at all.

(Sorry quoted wrong post and too much of a PITA to correct on the ipad) :)
 
Have a quick update. First CPU I tried, booted at 1.25v into Windows. A little tweak and was stable in aida64 and 3d mark for an hour or so. Temps where around 80c. Using an enermax 240 aio so temps could get a lot better. If I can get it to 4.7-8 and 90c I'll buy it.
Testing another one tomorrow to see if there is an improvement but I'm happy with this chip so far.

Will post pics tomorrow, left work for now and on the mobile phone. If anyone has a request, I'll be happy to help them out.
 
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