AMD and the HSA future road map............

They're not competing with Intel in terms of raw single-core power for the gaming enthusiast market. They definitely sure are trying their best in every other market.

Edit: Interesting read nonetheless.
 
Nice article. Makes me hopeful that AMD can survive as a company, though it won't look a bit like it did 10 years ago.
 
This isnt the first time AMD has had forward thinking ideas with the hardware to back it up ready.. but as usual a bigger party Intel can pay and influence everyone to not take advantage of it until they have a product that competes aswell or better.

GPU> CPU in terms of computations.. but everything is coded for the CPU right now.. Ironicvially AMD Has the stronger GPU at the moment which isnt been properly taken advantage of on the code side..

As soon as Intel gets its GPU's up abit you will likely see the coding switch on a grander scale but it will be to late to help AMD.. similar to the 64 bit era no coding no advantage even though AMD had a huge headstart in the desktop area with that tech also.
 
dajet24 said:
This isnt the first time AMD has had forward thinking ideas with the hardware to back it up ready.. but as usual a bigger party Intel can pay and influence everyone to not take advantage of it until they have a product that competes aswell or better.

GPU> CPU in terms of computations.. but everything is coded for the CPU right now.. Ironicvially AMD Has the stronger GPU at the moment which isnt been properly taken advantage of on the code side..

As soon as Intel gets its GPU's up abit you will likely see the coding switch on a grander scale but it will be to late to help AMD.. similar to the 64 bit era no coding no advantage even though AMD had a huge headstart in the desktop area with that tech also.
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There are are a few things wrong with your post..

1. GPUs are not "better" then CPUs in terms of general computations..They only excel when given a highly parallel workload..For all work, CPUs are much, much faster..

2. Intel has the money to back the R&D and to hire talented GPU engineers if they wish at any time..That is what the Intel Larrabee project started out as, but was canceld due to poor performance and constant delays..

HSA will only succeed if software companies get off their lazy rear ends and start developing efficient coding to take advantage of the amazing amount of power available now, let alone in the future..Many programs do not take advantage of more then a few cores, unless you consider enterprise software and specific tasks, like video encoding...

OP, thanks for posting the article..I actually was going to post it myself, but you beat me to it..Read it on my phone earlier through Appy Geek,,
 
dajet24 said:
GPU> CPU in terms of computations.. but everything is coded for the CPU right now.. Ironicvially AMD Has the stronger GPU at the moment which isnt been properly taken advantage of on the code side..
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Yeah, it reminds me of the decades old argument of RISC vs CISC CPUs.
Which was faster? RISC; hands down.
DEC's Alpha CPU were king of the hill in this arena.
The difference was all the coding out there was for CISC.

Well RISCs never went away but they are known as GPUs in their most common form.
Will history repeat??
I really think the brains at AMD learned the lessons of history in this matter. That is why HSA was pushed to open source and the tools to take advantage of it are made available free of charge.

When I first read a white paper on FUSION technology a few years back I said to myself "This IS the Console chip of the next generations of game consoles"
Both the new Xbox and the Sony PlayStation console are slated to use some form of fusion chip.
 
Dr. Righteous said:
Yeah, it reminds me of the decades old argument of RISC vs CISC CPUs.
Which was faster? RISC; hands down.
DEC's Alpha CPU were king of the hill in this arena.
The difference was all the coding out there was for CISC.

Well RISCs never went away but they are known as GPUs in their most common form.
Will history repeat??
I really think the brains at AMD learned the lessons of history in this matter. That is why HSA was pushed to open source and the tools to take advantage of it are made available free of charge.

When I first read a white paper on FUSION technology a few years back I said to myself "This IS the Console chip of the next generations of game consoles"
Both the new Xbox and the Sony PlayStation console are slated to use some form of fusion chip.
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I think you're lacking an understanding of the concepts :)? GPUs are neither(if anything they'd be VLIW)

and GPUs are not > CPUs in computation, only in FP.

and RISC has not gone away, IBM Power(x) chips are all RISC Suns SPARC line is RISC as well. But RISC and CISC have become so close together now that you can't really differentiate by calling either one RISC or CISC.

EG: "CISC" (Pentium 2 / 3 / 4 etc) processors, take CISC instructions, break them down into micro-ops(or smaller / more simple instructions similar to RISC instructions) and execute them that way, at the very core, it's a RISC approach, they just built hardware to handle CISC instructions

I'm not sure if this is still done, I remember reading that the K7 had some sort of VLIW core.
 
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