Apple Sold More iDevices in 2011 Than Total Macs in 28yrs

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I'm not sure if this is good news or bad news. On the one hand, that is a lot of phones. On the other hand, why even bother with the Macs?

A new breakdown of Apple's blockbuster 2011 notes that the company sold more iPhones, iPads and iPod touches in the 12-month span than it has sold Mac computers in the company's history.
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Sometimes the majority means all the idiots are on the same side. I personally know several people that buy a new "i" product everytime the current one breaks down just due to the high repair costs and the excuse well everything is already tied into iTunes so its just easier this way. I agree with the sentiment why bother with macs.
 
It's amazing to think there was no iPhone/iPad, any of that just a few years ago. Doesn't it feel like a lot longer ago than 2007 that the iPhone came out? I remember my phone before the iPhone. Sprint Mogul, Windows Mobile 6. All the other manufacturers insisted on plastic screens, stylus or fingernail usage (resistive screens that didn't sense your finger, only sensed pressure), no such thing as an app store and wooo boo did you pay for Windows Mobile apps.

I remember needing an IM client, and I looked and looked and the only thing out there that fit my needs was Agile Mobile - only problem? $60 for a mobile app. Then along came Apple with their central app store that made it so easy to find apps that more people bought apps which brought the average price all the way down to 99 cents an app. Then you had Steve Jobs that was determined it have a glass screen because glass would be smoother and feel better to the finger, even though he had all kinds of employees insisting it wasn't worth the extra cost.

I may not have an iPhone, but I can certainly appreciate just how much it pushed forward cell phones compared to the way they were before. Look at early Android prototypes before the iPhone came out: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/tech-news/first-look-at-an-actual-google-android-prototype/1795
 
MrSteel74 said:
Sometimes the majority means all the idiots are on the same side. I personally know several people that buy a new "i" product everytime the current one breaks down just due to the high repair costs and the excuse well everything is already tied into iTunes so its just easier this way. I agree with the sentiment why bother with macs.
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1. Android market share is much greater than iOS, so yes, I agree that the idiots are the majority
2. Most of the time you can get a replacement or your product fixed free of charge at an apple store as long as you're not a total douchebag. Also, if something does break (please show me a link that says apple products break more than average, or hell, even average), what makes you think that it would cost more than to fix something similar of another brand. If ANYTHING, it would be cheaper due to the amount of similar devices on the market.

Android users, am I right?
 
Steve said:
On the other hand, why even bother with the Macs?
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Because Macs are still a highly profitable segment for Apple.

I freely admit, however, that I'm no genius when it comes to business. Maybe profitable products are bad for a company to produce: I really don't know.
 
Not sure how much impact it has, but I have lots of people in my office that bought iPhones and iPads and ended up buying Macs later just because everything is tied together. Short of gaming, pretty much everything works together seamlessly now, so there's no massive PC/Mac rift anymore.

I'll forever admire the stylishness and form factor of the newer iMacs, but they're quite the pain to use...and they're still way overpriced.
 
jctusmc03 said:
Proof that more and more dumb asses are being born in the world, fml.
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news story about android's marketshare lead over apple: "it's because it's so much better guys"

news story about apple selling a lot of product: "lol, isheep, more morons!!11!1!"
 
Starcrossed said:
Find them yourself. You should realize that I am speaking the truth. ;)
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Now you're talking out of your ass, which was probably the case from the start.

Does there even exist (besides the iMac) an all-in-one with a 2560x1440 IPS panel?
 
Ryan711 said:
1. Android market share is much greater than iOS, so yes, I agree that the idiots are the majority
2. Most of the time you can get a replacement or your product fixed free of charge at an apple store as long as you're not a total douchebag. Also, if something does break (please show me a link that says apple products break more than average, or hell, even average), what makes you think that it would cost more than to fix something similar of another brand. If ANYTHING, it would be cheaper due to the amount of similar devices on the market.

Android users, am I right?
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When you can't replace your product then you have to try and fix it yourself. Most Apple computers are nearly impossible, as the parts cost almost as much as a new one. This works the same with laptops, as majority of the parts are proprietary. Only simple things like ram or hard drive are replaceable. With a desktop PC, as long as it works with ATX standards then it can be cheaply replaced. You can go from an Athlon XP to Athlon 64 to i7 with very little money and effort.

The iOS products are different, as they're very popular. So of course replacement parts are everywhere, thanks to the Chinese. A digitizer for an iPhone is extremely cheap on Ebay. It'll likely cost less then a brand new DVD movie. Android phones are more diverse, and the price of parts are more expensive. The difficulty isn't any different though.
 
rflcptr said:
Now you're talking out of your ass, which was probably the case from the start.

Does there even exist (besides the iMac) an all-in-one with a 2560x1440 IPS panel?
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I'm not talking out of my ass. The reality is that iMacs are significantly more expensive than their PC counterparts.

I wasn't even talking to you "at the start."
 
Starcrossed said:
I'm not talking out of my ass. The reality is that iMacs are significantly more expensive than their PC counterparts.

I wasn't even talking to you "at the start."
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You still haven't answered my question.
 
I'm sure more Dodge Chargers were sold this year than Vipers in their lifetime too...not sure what the significance of that is either.
 
Ashbringer said:
When you can't replace your product then you have to try and fix it yourself. Most Apple computers are nearly impossible, as the parts cost almost as much as a new one. This works the same with laptops, as majority of the parts are proprietary. Only simple things like ram or hard drive are replaceable. With a desktop PC, as long as it works with ATX standards then it can be cheaply replaced. You can go from an Athlon XP to Athlon 64 to i7 with very little money and effort.

The iOS products are different, as they're very popular. So of course replacement parts are everywhere, thanks to the Chinese. A digitizer for an iPhone is extremely cheap on Ebay. It'll likely cost less then a brand new DVD movie. Android phones are more diverse, and the price of parts are more expensive. The difficulty isn't any different though.
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Well I wasn't speaking specifically about apple desktops/laptops, but again, the macbook is the single most popular laptop, so it would stand to reason that it would actually be cheaper to find parts or get it fixed. imacs I do agree with, but i'd say that about any all-in-one, but I doubt that many of those are breaking considering they're static in position 24/7, for the most part.
 
Really, is there any doubt that iOS and OS X are going to merge at some point? Especially if Windows 8 is a hit and becomes competitive with iOS.
 
And also, this is THE reason why Windows 8 is designed the way it is. Because without these changes in a few years it would be "Why bother with PCs" as well.
 
heatlesssun said:
Really, is there any doubt that iOS and OS X are going to merge at some point? Especially if Windows 8 is a hit and becomes competitive with iOS.
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I see it more as a pair of circles in a Venn diagram that get closer, overlapping a little more at a time, but never completely merging.
 
heatlesssun said:
And also, this is THE reason why Windows 8 is designed the way it is. Because without these changes in a few years it would be "Why bother with PCs" as well.
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Mostly because the Mac platform, and MacOS, quite simply, aren't flexible enough to fit many users needs. Users who Apple has significantly less than zero ability or desire to actually support. Like anything NOT involved in content creation. Like large corporate networks.

Or enthusiasts who want more than the milquetoast "standard" offerings that Apple gives.
 
MrSteel74 said:
Sometimes the majority means all the idiots are on the same side. I personally know several people that buy a new "i" product everytime the current one breaks down just due to the high repair costs and the excuse well everything is already tied into iTunes so its just easier this way. I agree with the sentiment why bother with macs.
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iPhones are super cheap to fix since there is such a supply/demand of parts. They're also really easy to fix assuming you're good with electronics.

No idea what you're talking about.
 
rflcptr said:
I see it more as a pair of circles in a Venn diagram that get closer, overlapping a little more at a time, but never completely merging.
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A couple of things. Apple even with its tremendous success is now suffering from a problem what Microsoft has long had, competition from itself. Prior versions of Windows have long competed with the newest. The iPad as a result of competing with PCs now competes with Macs. Yes Mac sales are increasing nothing coming close to the iPad.

And then there's Windows 8. Apple will have a harder and harder time selling two different platforms if Microsoft can sell you one that does everything an iPad and a Mac can do as well, except among the Mac faithful if Windows 8 gets tons of great Metro apps that work across desktops, laptops, tablets and perhaps at some point even phones.

At any rate there's a lot in store for this year. We will have the next iPad announced probably in a couple of weeks just a couple of days after the CP of Windows 8. 2013 will be a hell of a year in the IT world no matter who wins.
 
rflcptr said:
Need an example or two.
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The power of google. :rolleyes:

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^ Middle image messed up, but seriously, google is your friend. ;)
 
Team Obi Juan said:
I had no idea $200 devices would outsell $1000+ devices.
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Actually, they're $600.00 - $900.00. They don't get subsidized over here. Each phone costs about as much as a mid level gaming PC.

rflcptr said:
Does there even exist (besides the iMac) an all-in-one with a 2560x1440 IPS panel?
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Does the regular joe even know what it is? Typical mac arguments involve rationalizing their overpriced hardware. It's the same pitch you get from a car salesman.

Is there anything you can do on your $1,500 mac that you can't do on a $700 pc? Word processing? Watching videos? Checking email? Web browsing?
 
macbook is not a model. hp and dell sell a lot more laptops. newsflash: us is not the whole world
 
Red Falcon said:
The power of google. :rolleyes:
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Red Falcon said:
^ Middle image messed up, but seriously, google is your friend. ;)
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iMac discussion is about iMac. If you can't keep up with discussion...
Sly said:
Does the regular joe even know what it is? Typical mac arguments involve rationalizing their overpriced hardware. It's the same pitch you get from a car salesman.
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Except for the small fact: I'm not selling anything. Also, using ignorance to justify an inferior product is not a legitimate argument. ;)
Is there anything you can do on your $1,500 mac that you can't do on a $700 pc? Word processing? Watching videos? Checking email? Web browsing?
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Does a $700 PC have an all-in-one form factor with a 2560x1440 IPS display?
 
rflcptr said:
iMac discussion is about iMac. If you can't keep up with discussion...

Except for the small fact: I'm not selling anything. Also, using ignorance to justify an inferior product is not a legitimate argument. ;)

Does a $700 PC have an all-in-one form factor with a 2560x1440 IPS display?
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Who the fuck needs an all-in-one DESKTOP. Why would I pay $2000 so I can never change anything in it, meaning I'm stuck with already outdated hardware until I buy the next one. I could buy 3 24" monitors and still have some left over money, and I don't know about you, but the 3 monitors allow much more productivity than one monitor.

Gimme your specs of your iMac, and the price you paid for it. I've had my pc for about 4 years, upgraded it a lot and it probably still cost less than a Mac.
 
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