Why No One Is Buying 3D TVs

I dunno, but I just don't see it worth the cost.

3D would be okay if it were free but it's not free. The hardware costs more, the movies cost more, you have to have enough pair of glasses... and a place to put them all, etc...

I'm still pretty content with watching DVDs. I guess I'm in the minority of viewers... if the movie is good enough I don't really care about whether it's SD, HD or 3D, because I'm watching the movie, not the quality of the movie.

Maybe a movie like Avatar needs HD or 3D to be viewed because the movie itself is not so great, but most movies I watch, DVD quality is high enough that it's not distracting, and that's all that really matters.
 
3d give me headaches and makes me puke, literally.


if a tech hurts other folks, it a shitty tech and they need to refine it.

the shit from the 70s and 80s didn't make me sick, and todays shit does, and it's the improvement? fuck that.
 
Concillian said:
I dunno, but I just don't see it worth the cost.

3D would be okay if it were free but it's not free. The hardware costs more, the movies cost more, you have to have enough pair of glasses... and a place to put them all, etc...

I'm still pretty content with watching DVDs. I guess I'm in the minority of viewers... if the movie is good enough I don't really care about whether it's SD, HD or 3D, because I'm watching the movie, not the quality of the movie.

Maybe a movie like Avatar needs HD or 3D to be viewed because the movie itself is not so great, but most movies I watch, DVD quality is high enough that it's not distracting, and that's all that really matters.
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mmmmm...I don't put the 3D on the same level as HD when compared to SD......SD DVD quality is pretty horrid compared to even halfway decent cable company compressed HD. We don't even watch the standard digital cable channels.....
 
You live long enough, you see fads...and this is a cyclic one. To all of you who say it's not...maybe not for you, but you're in an exteme minority.

For those of you who say that you don't watch due to lack of content...well, why I agree to the lack of content bit, most people wouldn't watch it anyway.

The real reason is that TV is, like any good story, dialogue and plot driven. While 3D effects are great, they don't contribute to the story. (And for the majority of the WORLD'S population, it's an unnecessary bother and often unaffordable expense.)

For most people, screen size and sound quality make the difference between watching and not watching TV. I had an ex that never watched TV hardly at all, until she came to my house and saw a 55' and heard 7.1 sound. She said that she never thought TV could be like that, and immediately got a setup for herself.
 
heatlesssun said:
Fortunately most of the 3D content I've enjoyed hasn't been a blurry mess.
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I for two enjoy 3d on my (plug -51" Samsung plasma TV) It up converts 2d to 3D. You can set the amount of 3d and the amount of depth. Games look great and live sports also. Watched an old BR of Total Recall, totally added to the experience. Avatar 3d in the theater wasn't as sharp or crisp as my home system. People bitching about a TV in a store don't know what their talking about, most of the negative thoughts, here are people who don't own a 3d set. Reminds me of the days where you went and spent thousands for a good stereo knowing full well that in store listening didn't cut it. One spent a month or two doing research then traveling to the high end shops that specialized in the right equipment. I for one don't go to the box or dept or chain retailers for the high end goods because you can't find them their. Anyways I'm enjoying my new toy.
 
I had no interest in 3D this time around, but found a good deal on a Samsung 51" 3D Plasma and bought it about two months ago. I haven't watched any 3D movies yet, but playing through God of War and Gears of War 3 has been awesome. I have Samsung 3D glasses that fit comfortably over my prescription glasses. I can'twist to try more games.
 
Uncle said:
I for two enjoy 3d on my (plug -51" Samsung plasma TV) It up converts 2d to 3D. You can set the amount of 3d and the amount of depth. Games look great and live sports also. Watched an old BR of Total Recall, totally added to the experience. Avatar 3d in the theater wasn't as sharp or crisp as my home system. People bitching about a TV in a store don't know what their talking about, most of the negative thoughts, here are people who don't own a 3d set. Reminds me of the days where you went and spent thousands for a good stereo knowing full well that in store listening didn't cut it. One spent a month or two doing research then traveling to the high end shops that specialized in the right equipment. I for one don't go to the box or dept or chain retailers for the high end goods because you can't find them their. Anyways I'm enjoying my new toy.
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This. You simply can't get a good feel for 3D without the right hardware, content and a good bit time using it. If one has seen a single 3D movie or played a single 3D game and didn't like the experience, fair enough. But that's like riding one ride at Disneyworld and saying you don't like Disneyworld.
 
Given the fact that watching TV is a spectator entertainment event, I just can't see 3D in that light; however, since gaming is an IMMERSION event, then it makes sense that 3D would add to the experience.

My buddy has a 3D TV and when he first got it, we watched it for some time...it was a pretty cool experience. However, neither of us use the shutter glasses anymore and watch plain old 2D, and we're fine. We both agreed that having stuff on our face detracted from the relaxing experience. (I wear glasses for close work, so I am grateful when I can take them off and watch TV.)
 
DeathPrincess said:
120hz monitors are great for games however...
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3D TV's do not support 120Hz gaming. There is not a TV out that handles anything more than 60Hz refresh on the input. The 120Hz/240Hz advertising is just signal processing...which equals monitor lag.
 
BBA said:
3D TV's do not support 120Hz gaming. There is not a TV out that handles anything more than 60Hz refresh on the input. The 120Hz/240Hz advertising is just signal processing...which equals monitor lag.
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Actually there are some Mitsubishi TVs that do and support nVidia 3D Vision
 
Reason's I don't buy 3D:

1) Gives me headaches after extended use.
2) Lack of true 3D content.
3) Not wearing/paying for stupid glasses to watch TV/movies.
4) Not paying the extra premium to have a 3D enabled TV over one that isn't (if there is an option).

3D is cool, but a gimmick. It comes and goes all the time and people rave about it each time, yet never let it catch on.
 
I find that proponents of 3D are generally really pushy about it. You just can't have a rational conversation with them about it.

You try to explain:

  • In 1983, it was the shit...loved it...saw everything in 3D (Jaws 3D, Friday 13th etc.) but, as it had done for the previous 20 years, it just died off.
  • In 1995 - 96, 3D was so awesome I went to Universal Studios for the T2 3D experience....again, it died off.
  • In 2003, Ghost of the Abyss and Spy Kids 3D (I have kids) got me to plop down IMAX 3D cash... again, it died off.
  • In 2006 - 2007 it was Monster House and some other kids movie...again, it died off.
  • 2009 the world went apeshit over Avatar 3D.... again....well, you know where this is going.

But, no matter what you say to the 3D evangelists, they have excuses why it hasn't caught on in 50 YEARS. :eek: It's not like it was introduced THIS year and didn't catch on...we are talking decades.

The moral of the story is that people can say whatever they want about 3D but, for various reasons, it dies off after we get "OMFG 3D IS TEH FUTAR!!!!" rammed down our throats non-stop.


I think it is going to take glasses-less 3D TVs that are priced the same as regular TVs and plentiful content. The only reason I have a massive 3D TV now is that it is that I had to replace one of my old TVs and it was basically the same cost as the 55" LED I wanted anyway.
 
exlink said:
Reason's I don't buy 3D:

1) Gives me headaches after extended use.
2) Lack of true 3D content.
3) Not wearing/paying for stupid glasses to watch TV/movies.
4) Not paying the extra premium to have a 3D enabled TV over one that isn't (if there is an option).

3D is cool, but a gimmick. It comes and goes all the time and people rave about it each time, yet never let it catch on.
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2) Lack of true 3D content." What exactly is true 3d content? and what is "stupid glasses". I know they a referring to the new TV's as Smart TV's so maybe you need to try the new Smart glasses.
 
For me I can only watch 3d for a few hours and then my eyes start to hurt. Seems like a gimmick thus far.
 
Steve said:
I think it is going to take glasses-less 3D TVs that are priced the same as regular TVs and plentiful content. The only reason I have a massive 3D TV now is that it is that I had to replace one of my old TVs and it was basically the same cost as the 55" LED I wanted anyway.
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Exactly it. I think support and overall experience would increase if we didn't need to wear glasses to watch our movies and TV shows in 3D.
 
Steve said:
I find that proponents of 3D are generally really pushy about it. You just can't have a rational conversation with them about it.

You try to explain:

  • In 1983, it was the shit...loved it...saw everything in 3D (Jaws 3D, Friday 13th etc.) but, as it had done for the previous 20 years, it just died off.
  • In 1995 - 96, 3D was so awesome I went to Universal Studios for the T2 3D experience....again, it died off.
  • In 2003, Ghost of the Abyss and Spy Kids 3D (I have kids) got me to plop down IMAX 3D cash... again, it died off.
  • In 2006 - 2007 it was Monster House and some other kids movie...again, it died off.
  • 2009 the world went apeshit over Avatar 3D.... again....well, you know where this is going.

But, no matter what you say to the 3D evangelists, they have excuses why it hasn't caught on in 50 YEARS. :eek: It's not like it was introduced THIS year and didn't catch on...we are talking decades.

The moral of the story is that people can say whatever they want about 3D but, for various reasons, it dies off after we get "OMFG 3D IS TEH FUTAR!!!!" rammed down our throats non-stop.


I think it is going to take glasses-less 3D TVs that are priced the same as regular TVs and plentiful content. The only reason I have a massive 3D TV now is that it is that I had to replace one of my old TVs and it was basically the same cost as the 55" LED I wanted anyway.
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I think it's the opponents that are pushier. In my 18 months of using constantly, I see the pluses AND minuses and I never recommend it outright, it's something you have to try for yourself. If you don't like it more power to you. That doesn't have any bearing on my enjoyment of the technology. I just don't see this incessant desire for the zero sum. It seems what really bothers 3D opponents is that there are people who will spend money on 3D, indeed a premium over traditional content and that directs resources away from other things.

The truth of the matter is that there is GREAT 3D content that many do enjoy, games and movies. I simply want the option for 3D technology and content. If others don't like it or don't want it fine, I'm not forcing it on them. It would be just as silly for me to push 3D on someone who doesn't like it as it would be for a person that's seen one movie or tried one game to tell me that it sucks when I've spent hundreds of hours using it.
 
Even HD is so hit or miss that the problem is consumers are probably not even happy with the content they are getting. I got the whole thing where people said, I have a giant tube TV that is only 32 inches and for around $1000 I can get a huge 50+ inch tv. In fact I would say now days alot of people are maxed for wall space they buy the biggest TV that will fit in their built in, between windows or whatever. Then they watch it and they feel like they are finally done. So now why update? We were all forced through an update cycle, that update cycle had alot of value because it was the digital transition plus, HD content plus large size. Now you want all those people to go out and buy a new set just for 3d, but most won't find that reasonable because they wont get anything with better quality or bigger size since they cannot fit any more. They will simply pay a premium and get 3d for a hand full of movies.
 
I have a 3d tv, but, I didnt buy my samsung 7000 series tv because of the 3d. I bought it because it is a beautiful tv with almost no bezel and the picture on it is amazing!
 
Oh and I wont even start on bad timing with the economy. People say that sales were up this year but I do not know I run a business and I made it through 2008, 2009 and 2010 and this was our worst year by far. And we have talked to alot of people who say the same thing. Something is wrong to me.
 
DeathPrincess said:
120hz monitors are great for games however...
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Yes, but there are no true 120Hz large displays. They all take only 60Hz and fake it from there. HDMI doesn't do 120Hz.

True 120Hz would be AWESOME in a large 1080p video display. It's en even multiple of 24,30 and 60 making it ideal for film and video judder free.

I've got an almost four year old Panasonic commercial plasma. I see zero reason to upgrade. It's 65" of perfectly calibrated win and it takes 24Hz input does pull-down to 96Hz. Now if Panny did a 120Hz plasma with dual link DVI that I could feed via a good video processor or my HTPC? I'd be there with the plastic in a moment.

Finally, I hate all the fake 120hz consumer displays. It's retarded. Gimme the real thing.
 
I hate all this focus on 3D when their is still so much SD content. SD to HD is a MUCH more rewarding upgrade then 3D.

Personally I wish they would cut all this 3D crap and focus on getting more HD content. I know most of you guys are in the US so you`re probably thinking "we have hundreds of HD channels``, but here in Canada most providers you are lucky to see 30-40 HD channels (including all the time shifting channels).
 
To add to that. I won`t even watch my "digital" channels. On anything over 40" they look like absolute shit..
 
rudy said:
Oh and I wont even start on bad timing with the economy. People say that sales were up this year but I do not know I run a business and I made it through 2008, 2009 and 2010 and this was our worst year by far. And we have talked to alot of people who say the same thing. Something is wrong to me.
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agreed
 
3D is a flawed technology. Unless your head is sitting in the same position that the camera filmed from the 3D effect is off.

Add in to that the increased cost of the hardware, lack of 3D media and the stupid glasses which are not cheap nor comfortable to endure for extended periods of time. How in the world can it come as a surprise that the average consumer is going to be meh about it?
 
not to mention people like me who dont have stero vision, im GLAD 3D tv keeps falling on its ass
 
Me too. All 3D gets me is a headache and an upset stomach. When we start getting holograms, then count me in. Until then go waste your money on BS like this.
 
I havent bought a 3D TV because (1) I can not see 3D ad (2) They are twice as expensive as a non 3D TV.
 
So sale increased from 1.1 million in 2010 to 23 million in 2011.....an increase of about 2000%....and that means 3D is not taking off???
 
3D is STILL the stupidest idea the industry refuses to let go of. No decent content.. much like how for the first THREE+ years after HD went fairly mainstream, no-one was making content. It was ALL upscaled SD programming. Even to this day, more then 65% of the HD programming you watch, was originally an SD or at BEST, a 480i signal thats since been upscaled to 720 or 1080.

The entertainment industry os desperate for a new gimmick because they've run out of original content, and people are FINALLY growing tired of sitting around watching other people live their manufactured lives.

3D isn't going to make a bad movie good.. so GOOD LORD, why would you pay $80 for a Blu-ray of a movie you didn't want to see in theaters? In fact, its godamn aggravating that retailers INTENTIONALLY hold back the plain 'blu-ray only' (generally $14-$19) releases for several weeks, making only the DVD/Digital/Blu ($24-$49) available for purchase!

Consumers have become a meal of desperation to thousands of starving sales people, and they ignore that if Joe the Plumber just spent $1200 on a nice Sony 50" 240hz Bravo Z, he's going to tell you to go fuck yourself when you attempt to manipulate him into:

a) False sense of urgency at getting 'left behind' on what is falsely being touted as the new industry standard...

b)Feeling guilty at NOT spending the money to be on-board with all the 'glitz' and hype at buying the next 'big shiny' product just because someone else made it sound like you're a loser if you AREN'T part of the hip crowd. We get enough of that at Christmas and every other bullshit 'holiday' that makes you feel like you;re a heartless selfish bastard if you aren't continuously filling your family's lives with useless consumerism. Really? I'm a bad parent because I didn't buy my daughter a $500 iPhone? Really? I'm a poor American because I don't buy a new TV every 6 months?

Go fuck yourselves entertainment industry.
 
The whole 3d thing just seemed like a stop gap money grab until the industry worked out the manufacturing details to mass produce OLED screens which consumers will bend over backwards to buy.
 
3D is an unwanted technology looking for buyers.

TV's have become so cheap and 'boring' to the manufacturers. Every now and then the electronics industry tries to foist shit upon us we don't want or need, backed with highly produced marketing, in order to excite their sales. The current 'push' of 3D is the latest incarnation of this.

In a way, I classify Blu-Ray in this catagory as well. The improvements are negligible (in reality, not on paper), and all it has done is raise costs for consumers and profits for licensee's. HD-DVD had more merit, but that's a long dead horse.
 
I am honestly surprised they are "surprised" it flopped ....Again.

3d has always been nothing more than gimmicky bullshit that isn't actually 3d. It is nothing more than a poor parlor trick on your eyes that causes physical problems for a percentage of the population whose brain and eyes refuse to be duped. It adds nothing to the viewing experience and if anything is a huge detractor from it. Couple that with it being extremely inconvenient (That being the biggest factor) and there being very little content that isn't outright terrible and it for the past 50 years has never stood a chance. It is just something used by big media every half decade or so to scalp the suckers out of a little extra money.

Good Riddance.
 
people don't seem to realize that 3DTV also= best 2D TV...people seem to think that because they buy a 3D set that they are investing solely in the 3D...it's a win-win situation...the best 3D sets also make the best 2D sets...the 3D is just an extra feature just like Netflix or Vudu...you don't have to use it

I bought my first plasma 3D set last year and love it...the 3D is actually tons better at home then in the movie theater...I actually enjoy watching 3D movies now...I still think 3D is a gimmick and fad but why not enjoy it while you can and still have amazing looking 2D to boot
 
I recently bought a Panasonic 42" 3D Plasma TV (ST30). I didn't buy for the 3D... I don't have the glasses nor plan on buying them anytime soon. The picture quality per $ on this model was a better deal than the cheaper non-3D version at the time. It is a massive upgrade from my 2006 era 32" Sony Bravia LCD.
 
There are people like me and 3D doesn't work it just gives me a blurry picture and gives me a headache. There isn't anything there I would want to watch. I have even looked at the newest 3D tv's and even when the 3D part is turned off the picture doesn't look as clear as a non-3D screen.
 
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