Google Rejects Fat Job Applicants?

I'd rather live in a country where you can hire who you want instead of being forced(by law or some other form of pressure) to hire on the basis of Political Correctness where qualification come secondary(or not at all).

Zangmonkey said:
It's currently acceptable to discriminate against fat people and smokers.

Land of the free, home of the brave.
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Weenis said:
The united states government can deny you employment based on number of children and certain agencies can deny you service if you are not married.

Military can deny you employment if you have to many children, Air Force will not let unmarried pilots fly certain aircraft.

And I'm pretty sure you can be barred from military service still if you say you're gay.


Being fat should not be a protected right, period. If you want to be fat sure I don't care, as long as it does not hinder others.

Being gay doesn't come into factor with medical insurance or how often you might be sick.


Intentionally stuffing your fucking face because you lack will or are too lazy to exercise should garner you no special protections.

Go to the fucking gym.
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Actually, I'm pretty sure being gay can result in more medical bills. You're more likely to contract HIV with a gay lifestyle. Around 14 times more likely.

Not trying to start anything. Your comment caught my eye and I remember seeing CDC facts about it a while ago.


As far as the fatties: someone post the Go Be Fat Somewhere Else pic lol
 
Zarathustra[H];1037426401 said:
Its undeniably established that being overweight is an unhealthy condition that leads to all kinds of illnesses, like diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and some studies are even showing links to Alzheimers now.

That doesn't mean that all thin people are healthy, but it does mean that all overweight people are unhealthy.

This is not an opinion. It is pure unadulterated fact. Absolute irrefutable truth.

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Male Height to Weight Ratio			
Height	Low	Target	High
5' 1"	123	134	145
5' 2"	125	137	148
5' 3"	127	139	151
5' 4"	129	142	155
5' 5"	131	145	159
5' 6"	133	148	163
5" 7"	135	151	167
5' 8"	137	154	171
5' 9"	139	157	175
5' 10"	141	160	179
5' 11"	144	164	183
6' 0"	147	167	187
6' 1"	150	171	192
6' 2"	153	175	197
6' 3"	157	179	202

Female Height to Weight Ratio			
			
Height	Low	Target	High
4' 10"	100	115	131
4' 11"	101	117	134
5' 0"	103	120	137
5' 1"	105	122	140
5' 2"	108	125	144
5' 3"	111	128	148
5' 4"	114	133	152
5' 5"	117	136	156
5' 6"	120	140	160
5' 7"	123	143	164
5 '8"	126	146	167
5' 9"	129	150	170
5' 10"132	153	173
5' 11"	135	156	176
6' 0"	138	159	179

If you are outside of the above ranges (in Lb) your body weight is unhealthy, unless you are a body builder or something (and its actually debatable whether or not body building is a healthy sport)
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According to this scale (looks like the retarded BMI scale) I am morbidly, morbidly obese, despite being fairly skinny.
 
Google was just being kind to the fatties since the next phase of the hiring process was a wet T-Shirt contest..
 
Exavior said:
You can get a handcap tag for your car if you are overweight. So they already consider it a handicap
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I feel like fat people should have to park at the back of the parking lot...not the front.

*coming from someone who is a tad on the husky side
 
chinesepiratefood said:
According to this scale (looks like the retarded BMI scale) I am morbidly, morbidly obese, despite being fairly skinny.
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The BMI scale actually works well for large groups of people, but it can fail miserably for individuals. It doesn't take into account variations in build. It's also designed for the average person, so it can be very inaccurate for athletes. When I was a triathlete, I was technically slightly underweight according to BMI. Now that I've started training for strength, I'll probably be "overweight" by the end of the year, yet still be nearly as lean as I was when "underweight". I have a friend who played college football, and is "obese", yet has very little body fat. Still, he's about the size of a house, and nobody would ever call him skinny. So even though BMI can be inaccurate, I can't see how someone could be even remotely skinny and be classified as morbidly obese. I'm curious what your height and weight are.
 
imagine the fat girls looking at each other awkwardly in the elevator wondering why they got rejected lol
 
wizdum said:
Calories in = calories out is actually bullshit.
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/07/gary-taubes-goo.html
Yes, I know thats not a reputable website, just read the book and ignore whatever the website is telling you now.
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I agree, some are wasted, and some are used in other body functions. But I believe a book written and based on scientific fact. If you take in more calories than you are going to expend, or your body is capable of wasting, that is turned into fat for storage to be used at a later time if needed. This isn't a new fact, and it also isn't only restricted to humans, many animals do this as well.

As I mentioned, fast foods are made with things either humans have not evolved to digest, or are very hard to digest. These things are very bad for you to eat, yet the ability to get a full meal in under 10 minutes usually isn't a bad thing, I cannot deny. Some people just go overboard and eat crap ALL the time, and don't exercise. Walking to the fridge from the sofa and back again doesn't count either.

Even if you are overweight now, and don't have health problems, who's to say you won't in the future? You certainly have a higher chance than someone who is within the height/weight standard. Also, over time fat its self can turn in to all kinds of nasty stuff if it just sits there and is never burned or anything. The point is basically this, you can eat whatever the hell you want, I do most of the time. But I also jog nearly every day, and workout every day. Sometimes I splurge and pig out on fast food, or pizza, or whatever else, but I'm not in harms way due to the fact I actually take care of myself.

Another thing is yes, you are viewed differently by some people, potentially a future employer. Sometimes when future employers see overweight people they will pass them up on the job just because of a future hike on their insurance for what could be future problems with the person. Why not just be fit and save yourself the potential future problems, or current problems. It's easier to eat a healthier diet than to exercise as well, hell, when you go to fast good places get one of the healthy meal options (even though some of them aren't healthy either), easier than exercising maybe if you don't have the willpower to drag your ass to the gym or around the neighborhood on a walk/jog. /rant
 
Zarathustra[H];1037425158 said:
This^

3.) If someone is undisciplined in taking care of their own body, it is not a stretch to assume that they might be undisciplined in tending to their work.

I wouldn't hire a slovenly person ether.
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So true.
 
VolvoR said:
Oh, and that damn chart up there...

It says I'm supposed to weigh 179??? At 6'3"???? WTF?? I'm 202 right now, and if I got down to 193 I'd look like crap...SKINNY!! I can't imagine where I'd lose and additional 14lbs!!

BUT, for my wife, she's 5'5", it says 136...bingo. Perfect.

Something is wrong there.
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No one and I mean no one uses height weight charts any more lol that was the garbage they told you in middle school in the late 80's lol.

During swim season my senior year of high school I was swimming 3 miles a day and was 5'10 180lbs and 6% body fat. During college I started hitting the gym for baseball and running 3-5 miles every single day. God forbid I jumped to 195 and 8% body fat. I was so overweight such a fat pig lol. At 195 I was probably morbidly obese by height weight chart standards.
 
jctusmc03 said:
I agree, some are wasted, and some are used in other body functions. But I believe a book written and based on scientific fact. If you take in more calories than you are going to expend, or your body is capable of wasting, that is turned into fat for storage to be used at a later time if needed. This isn't a new fact, and it also isn't only restricted to humans, many animals do this as well.

As I mentioned, fast foods are made with things either humans have not evolved to digest, or are very hard to digest. These things are very bad for you to eat, yet the ability to get a full meal in under 10 minutes usually isn't a bad thing, I cannot deny. Some people just go overboard and eat crap ALL the time, and don't exercise. Walking to the fridge from the sofa and back again doesn't count either.

Even if you are overweight now, and don't have health problems, who's to say you won't in the future? You certainly have a higher chance than someone who is within the height/weight standard. Also, over time fat its self can turn in to all kinds of nasty stuff if it just sits there and is never burned or anything. The point is basically this, you can eat whatever the hell you want, I do most of the time. But I also jog nearly every day, and workout every day. Sometimes I splurge and pig out on fast food, or pizza, or whatever else, but I'm not in harms way due to the fact I actually take care of myself.

Another thing is yes, you are viewed differently by some people, potentially a future employer. Sometimes when future employers see overweight people they will pass them up on the job just because of a future hike on their insurance for what could be future problems with the person. Why not just be fit and save yourself the potential future problems, or current problems. It's easier to eat a healthier diet than to exercise as well, hell, when you go to fast good places get one of the healthy meal options (even though some of them aren't healthy either), easier than exercising maybe if you don't have the willpower to drag your ass to the gym or around the neighborhood on a walk/jog. /rant
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Weenis said:
Who cares, fat people mean higher insurance rates and more health problems which means missing work etc.

I'm sorry but I don't think it's terribly wrong to discriminate against someone who consciously puts themselves into poor health.
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So, we shouldn't hire diabetics, or anyone with any genetic predisposition towards a "defect?" Sounds good to me. I am all for a Gattaca society!
 
Kalabalana said:
Just like how unhealthily skinny all the NBA players under 6"4 at 230 or less look? Come on.
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Counter point would be the 300 pound lineman in the NFL who is 6'8" or the this 400 lbs behemoth.. Just looking at weight without any other measurements is definitely not the way to judge health.
 
What!???

Google didn't gas them while they were all in the elevator, I'm shocked, SHOCKED!!!

Just about every private company I have seen has hired female staff that generally are fit, and easy on the eye, the office I work in is pretty much the same, the only exceptions I have seen to that rule are, the ones that have been here for 20+ years, interns (they are only here for 6 months tops), and people that have some serious legal muscle of their own, and will feck you over if they get a slight whiff of discrimination.

Doesn't seem to matter if your faster, better, stronger than the other applicants, if your appearance doesn't fit what they are looking for, your not getting the job.
 
okashira said:
What makes you think either of them are terribly healthy?
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Same exact thing can be asked of a thin person. Weight is never the lone indicator of health especially when looking at an athlete, which was my point.
 
She looked healthy and disease free said she was on the pill so ya no point in using a condom. Ya appearances are everything when looking at persons overall health..... Skinny means healthy come on people when are you gonna understand that lol!!
 
To be fair, not all fat people are fat because they choose... Myself I've struggled with my weight my entire life, as a young teenager I actually weighed 300lbs. Unlike the fatties who whine and don't do anything about it, I did end up loosing 100lbs (I'm 6'2) when I was around 19 but to do it AND maintain it I had to spend 2 hours every day in the gym (and it was a HARD workout, not some panzy workout). I did this for 3 years, and if you saw what I ate you'd laugh. I would have 1 slice of toast for breakfast, 1 can of campbell's soup for lunch or a can of tuna (by itself) and a piece of skinless chicken with a SMALL side of salad (no dressing) for dinner. I probably subsisted on around 800 calories a day. I downed a ton of vitamins to make up for the many shortcomings in my diet, and never had things like cocacola, fastfood, candy etc...

I've been unable to keep this regimen up for the past 3 years, and I've ballooned back up to 260lbs... some people just can't help it, I can't dedicate 2 hours of my day to a gym after working 10 hours. All I'd do is work, workout, and sleep. That isn't a life.
 
I am not trying to turn this into a personal medical conversation, but I hope you have talked to your doctor (at some point) about how little you can eat and still gain weight to make sure there isn't any unidentified treatable medical condition that is causing it.
 
There's a reasoning behind why Google doesn't want fat people. You know Google offer free food for their employee... companies such as Google doesn't want to go bankrupt. :p
 
dioxholster said:
imagine the fat girls looking at each other awkwardly in the elevator wondering why they got rejected lol
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Imagine all the gas passing from their fat asses in the elevator. :eek:

That's my 1 immature post for the day. My next 1 will be tomorrow. :p
 
to all the people claiming that fat people are just lazy I just want to say pull you heads out your asses. metabolism is all genetic. im 6 ft tall and only weigh 170lbs. and I barely ever exercise and easily consume 5000 calories a day. I have benn the same weight and height my entire adult life and no amount of diet/exercise and or inactivity and poor diet has ever mad my weight fluctuate more than ten pounds at the most.

fat people are fat because they have efficent metabolisms which up untill the last hundred year or so were a advantageous genetic trait. it is only with the advent of plentiful cheap food being readily available to everyone living in a deveolped country that obesity has become an issue. one hudred years ago it was the "fatties" that were viewed as being healthy being fat was a sign of prosperity and an indocator of financial well being as being fat meant you were lucky enough to actually have enought to eat.

good health is real but it being tied to body weght to the level that people think it is is merely a societal concept there are millions of perfectly healthy people out there carrying around an extra 20 punds and many millions more unhealthy people who are at or below their "idea body weight".

the reality is that societal standards for apperance have shifted drastically in the last hundred years and the human genetic pool still has not caught up people whore are lucky enough to be genetically gifted with metabolisms the proccess food less efficently and therefore store less of what they don't burn off as fat should just be glad they got lucky and get of their fucking high horses.
 
Fan_Atic said:
No one and I mean no one uses height weight charts any more lol that was the garbage they told you in middle school in the late 80's lol.
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My retarded Asian doctor does who works for Kaiser... says I'm overweight... ok fine I got a bit of a belly... says when he first saw me some years back I weighed 155 pounds @ 5'11" and I was healthy then... most recently however when I mentioned being 130 pounds after high school (same height too) he said I probably was the most healthiest at that time...

needless to say I got a new doctor.
 
I just wanted to ad that as far as good not hiring that woman I doubt it actually had anything to do with her weight and even if it did I think that should be google's decision to make. our goverment go's way to far with babysitting us. if I am a private business owner and decide I only wan't to hire college educated African American Men aged 25-35 thats should be my decision to make and it should be up to the people and the free market not the goverment to show me if they are ok with that.

If you honestly believe that google (or any other company) discriminates against fat people (feel free to substitue fat with whatever group of people you want here) stop using their product/service and write them letter letting them know why I guarantee if every fat person in America did the google would have a minimum weight requirement by the end of the fiscal quarter. by the same token if you are a fat person (or any other type of person) that wants to work for google march in their and show them that you are more qualified then any other applicant they have and I bet they will hire you and if they don't guess what some other company will and because they hire all the amazing talented fat people in the world and google (please note the sarcasm here) "only hires the stupid untalented thin people that company will succeed and google will fail because thats how the free market works if you let it do it's thing.

as pissed off as I am at the people who were gifited with good looks and treat people who were'nt as if it's really their fauly im sure as hell 1000x more pissed at the whiny mother fuckers like the lady in this story who want the goverment and the courts to solve every tiny piss ant problem they have
/endrant
 
TheWeazmeister said:
Counter point would be the 300 pound lineman in the NFL who is 6'8" or the this 400 lbs behemoth.. Just looking at weight without any other measurements is definitely not the way to judge health.
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but the point is 230 is no where near the minimum healthy weight for someone 6'4. Many athletes I see at that height are around the 200 pound mark.. In fact, unless youre packing on alot of pure muscle, you're going to be somewhat chunky at that weight and height.
 
eon said:
but the point is 230 is no where near the minimum healthy weight for someone 6'4. Many athletes I see at that height are around the 200 pound mark.. In fact, unless youre packing on alot of pure muscle, you're going to be somewhat chunky at that weight and height.
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Hardly. Just because some fit your idea of fit doesn't mean that all athletes or everyone falls under that heading. 6'4", 200 isn't getting you on the field as an linebacker in the NFL. Again, generalizations like the ones that have been quoted and are pushed by most primary care physicians are good for some of the population, but they in no way reflect health for everyone, period. Again, these tables are generalizations that are accurate for a great many people, but they don't hold true for everyone, as they can't. Now, one can accurately argue that having that kind of weight can cause strain on joints and such, but again, it's not the end all be all.
 
eon said:
what?? 230 is not too light for someone 6'4
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Depends on more than simply height, which is why that chart is worthless. I'm 250 now, but was at 235 for a few years, at that weight looking a little to skinny motivated me to start lifting weights to add some muscle. Fat certainly wasn't an issue. Ask anyone to guess my weight, at 235 of 250, and they'd guess a good 20-25 pounds lighter.

Hell years ago I actually topped at over 300 and people were guessing 260s.
 
eon said:
In fact, unless youre packing on alot of pure muscle, you're going to be somewhat chunky at that weight and height.
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Which is just simply not true. Chunkiness sets in bout 245..

Like I said, not all about the height. Stupid chart.
 
funny story - sounds like a stunt to make it seem like she wasn't hired for a reason other than being unqualified.

on a side note - i wonder how many people in here are ranting and raving about great health, exercise, etc while sitting on their ass eating a bag of chips in front of the computer. finally an audience who can't tell what you look like...right? ;)
 
Usquabach said:
funny story - sounds like a stunt to make it seem like she wasn't hired for a reason other than being unqualified.

on a side note - i wonder how many people in here are ranting and raving about great health, exercise, etc while sitting on their ass eating a bag of chips in front of the computer. finally an audience who can't tell what you look like...right? ;)
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i have more pics of myself, but this is my wife & i. i think i weigh around 175 in this picture, this was last year. please, by all means, post one of yourself. i could use the lols.

just for reference, i topped out at about 285 in 2000.

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NativeAlien said:
I agreed with everything you said until I read this. Light lifting is just a little better than using a Shake Weight. Lift heavy. Your muscles will not get stronger or retain mass on a deficit unless it's facing heavy stimulus on a regular basis. Read: you won't get "toned" or "lean" or muscular unless you're lifting heavy. You don't need to go balls to the wall, puke your guts out after every lifting session. You don't even need to go to failure, but you need to always lift heavier or more to combat your muscle's capability to adapt.

I think everything else in your post is the truth and exactly what 50% of the people in this country need to hear, but please don't tell people to do "light" weight lifting, unless it's just your method of getting them over their fear of weight lifting.
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You hit the nail on the head with that, I should have elaborated a little more, I actually have them circuit train with moderate weight. Like 4 sets of 14-16 reps (I think that you should probably aim to fail by the 16th). I suppose I was a little too brief on that point but I wasn't trying to write out in fine detail the entire workout. In any case you are exactly right. Don't power lift, instead lift more moderate weight with "slow form" and lift to burn. Thanks for clarifying!
 
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