WP7 NoDo Update Coming April 19th

If you are a Microsoft Windows Phone 7 owner and you have been anxious to receive the long awaited NoDo update for your phone, your wait is nearly over. WinRumors reports that the long overdue update will be available on Tuesday, April the 19th.

Customers should be receiving two updates, if they have yet to receive the February update. The first update has been described by Microsoft as a way to get devices ready for following updates; NoDo should proceed thereafter.

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I'll believe it when it happens.

I got sick of waiting and ran the ChevronWP7 hack on my Focus to update to NoDo two weeks ago. According to MSFT, I have irrevocably FUBARd my phone. (and it runs better than it ever did)

I really don't understand why new mobile OS's can't launch with one of the most basic useful commands, Copy/Paste.

iOS, WebOS, and WP7 didn't.

Android did

Saturn_V said:

I'll believe it when it happens.

I got sick of waiting and ran the ChevronWP7 hack on my Focus to update to NoDo two weeks ago. According to MSFT, I have irrevocably FUBARd my phone. (and it runs better than it ever did)

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I don't see how that is possible honestly. They need to come up with a better explanation why I've fubar'ed my phone too. I've done the same hack for my phone and everything works fine. AT&T is intentionally delaying NoDo's because they want to add their own bullshit to the update. Microsoft should tell AT&T to fuck off and tell them not to mess with the update but that's just me. It went from "If they won't do the first update, they have to do the NoDo's update immediately when we release it in March" to "We don't know what's going on with the cell companies" to "We're letting the cell companies fuck around with the update".

Honestly, I don't keep up with WP7 very much but when I listen to Windows Weekly, Paul Thurrott just smashes MS each week for being such a slow, sloth like, incompetent, nitwit in regards to its support for this phone. I REALLY wanted it to be good too. I am an Android man but I wanted a third player in the arena to push the other two. I believe competition in this space isn't only good but utterly necessary for innovation and MS really had a good opportunity. Poor bastards.

I've got my nexus one. I've got my hd7. I got the nodo update via the zune software two weeks ago.

Imho wp7 is a fantastic v1. But I use my n1 because it's more functional. However endures netflix for android, eh? Netfkix on wp7 is awesome.

Endures == where's. Fucking autocorrect (via swype on android.)

All I can say with this is I am "looking" to upgrade this year and I have just pushed WP7 off my list because of all this update bullshit. This reminds me of windows mobile. They always said it would be updated and upgraded but they stalled and were SLOW on doing damn near anything.

I agree with Kenworth that the carriers should stick it where the sun does not shine for releasing the updates. I hate being and AT&T customer and I will be changing in the future. I hate all the bloatware bull that they load on the phones.

Kenworth said:

I believe competition in this space isn't only good but utterly necessary for innovation and MS really had a good opportunity. Poor bastards.

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One troubled update a phone does not make, this update is ALREADY out on the bulk of Windows devices world wide, the US is where most of the trouble was apparently: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-schedules.aspx
But of course every Android device always got their updates on time and trouble free right?

I wouldn't feel to badly for Microsoft, Windows Phone is projected to be the #2 smart phone by 2015, it is a game changer: http://venturebeat.com/2011/03/29/windows-phone-to-be-2-by-2015/

I got the HTC Arrive on Sprint a couple of weeks ago, the device really is slick especially if you are a Zune Pass owner and/or Netflicks user, nothing like this combo on any other phone currently. There's already 14,000 apps in the WP7 Marketplace as well, sure a lot of crapware like all other phones but a lot of good stuff as well, free and paid and the store just keeps growing at a very fast clip. I mad mention of this many times when I first started using the development tools but the amazing app growth is directly tied to the the amazing power and ease of the Visual Studio tools for WP and the fact that there's an army of .NET developers across the globe that already know this stuff. The way that Microsoft leveraged .NET, Silverlight, XNA and Visual Studio was a top notch job of software engineering, simply best in the business stuff on the development tools side. And the Mango update at the end of the year pretty much adds everything else to the OS to bring it up to technological parity and beyond even with iOS and Android.

Microsoft could have waited another year to get the OS features in place and that would have been a big mistake. There will probably be around 50,000 apps in the Marketplace, slick Nokia devices and a year of getting real world kinks work out that wouldn't have happened with a delay.

Microsoft is charging ahead and breakneck speed and overall putting out a HELL of a platform with best of breed development tools and support and a ton of high quality apps on a very unique platform. They are changing much faster than a lot of peoples dated and incorrect notions and in a way that's just what Microsoft needs, not to be taken seriously until you wake up one day and they surpass the iOS in sales and then they gottacha!

Loving the Arrive and WP7 thus far and hope to my first app(s) out next month. Looking forward to the task switcher that was demoed, supper elegant like most of WP and 3rd background multi-tasking.

heatlesssun said:

One troubled update a phone does not make, this update is ALREADY out on the bulk of Windows devices world wide, the US is where most of the trouble was apparently: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-schedules.aspx
But of course every Android device always got their updates on time and trouble free right?

I wouldn't feel to badly for Microsoft, Windows Phone is projected to be the #2 smart phone by 2015, it is a game changer: http://venturebeat.com/2011/03/29/windows-phone-to-be-2-by-2015/

Microsoft could have waited another year to get the OS features in place and that would have been a big mistake. There will probably be around 50,000 apps in the Marketplace, slick Nokia devices and a year of getting real world kinks work out that wouldn't have happened with a delay.

Microsoft is charging ahead and breakneck speed and overall putting out a HELL of a platform with best of breed development tools and support and a ton of high quality apps on a very unique platform. They are changing much faster than a lot of peoples dated and incorrect notions and in a way that's just what Microsoft needs, not to be taken seriously until you wake up one day and they surpass the iOS in sales and then they gottacha

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I highlighted what I keyed in on. I will again not claim to be a smarthphone expert. I purchased the HTC Thunderbolt when it first came out and coming from an Env Touch, it is like I have entered a new world of my mobile life. With that said...

I agree they couldn't wait until everything was perfected. None of the others did (Apple or Google) because I believe you just have to get it out there and keep supporting it, supporting it, supporting it. But, could you say that Microsoft has been really working on this phone software as hard as it could have been? I am not asking a rhetorical question, I am being serious because it seems like they have been a little slower.

I think think the Nokia acquisition is going to be the direct factor with the predictions of how it will be the number two player in the coming years. If done right I think that is an accurate prediction but since I have been listening to Windows Weekly I have a bias because I tend to agree that most of Nokia's huge distribution is based on there simple phones and cheap pricing. If Nokia can make a really good line of smartphones that can use WP7 and remain cheap, then yes. But doesn't WP7 take a little horsepower to run?

NoDo has been out for about a month now. With that said, I "hacked" my AT&T Samsung Focus several weeks back and have been problem free. Windows Phone 7 with NoDo is pretty nice and I love it much more than my old iPhone. Granted there are a few apps missing but most of those are the equivilant to a mobile version of a website (ex, AmEx app -vs- AmEx mobile site). On the other hand, Mango is gonna be huge. Anyone interested should check out this video. I think Mango will bring the Windows Phone platform beyond what anyone else has now. All existing Windows Phones will get the Mango update.

SparkedFire said:

NoDo has been out for about a month now. With that said, I "hacked" my AT&T Samsung Focus several weeks back and have been problem free. Windows Phone 7 with NoDo is pretty nice and I love it much more than my old iPhone. Granted there are a few apps missing but most of those are the equivilant to a mobile version of a website (ex, AmEx app -vs- AmEx mobile site). On the other hand, Mango is gonna be huge. Anyone interested should check out this video. I think Mango will bring the Windows Phone platform beyond what anyone else has now. All existing Windows Phones will get the Mango update.

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Well almost all will get it at the same time. Since we're both on AT&T, they intentionally delayed it so they can insert their fuckery into it which I have no fucking idea how this benefits AT&T in terms of money. Their applications are pretty much dumb and useless to me anyways. It only pisses off the customers more and makes it more likely to jump ship the first chance they can get than stick with AT&T's bullshit.

"How do we shit up the user experience?"
"Hey, let's put imaginary dog shit in every application and see if it'll get us more customers"
"Do it!"

Kenworth said:

...when I listen to Windows Weekly, Paul Thurrott just smashes MS each week for being such a slow, sloth like, incompetent, nitwit in regards to its support for this phone.

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His tilts do seem to have a Don Quixote vibe- and he's probably the most public evangelist for WP7. But in all fairness it's the carriers that have stalled deployment of this update- not MSFT. I had hoped for a "Patch Tuesday" experience with WP7; clockwork-like updates to optimize the platform. Now it's evident that's not going to happen. But I don't think the platform is doomed....yet.

But I have a sneaky suspicion that Mango will "require" a hardware upgrade and current-gen WP7ers will be cut out. (that's the kinda crap something AT&T would pull) That will send every early WP7 adopter (me included) back to Droid and iOS.

Kenworth said:

I think think the Nokia acquisition is going to be the direct factor with the predictions of how it will be the number two player in the coming years.

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MSFT needs to ship a phone-less phone. A WP7 device that can do the media, games, and apps w/Wi-Fi without a mobile contract- like the iPod Touch. If they can pull that off and make it insanely popular, (moreso than they did Zune) then their forecasted #2 slot is more plausible.

SparkedFire said:

NoDo has been out for about a month now. With that said, I "hacked" my AT&T Samsung Focus several weeks back and have been problem free. Windows Phone 7 with NoDo is pretty nice and I love it much more than my old iPhone. Granted there are a few apps missing but most of those are the equivilant to a mobile version of a website (ex, AmEx app -vs- AmEx mobile site). On the other hand, Mango is gonna be huge. Anyone interested should check out this video. I think Mango will bring the Windows Phone platform beyond what anyone else has now. All existing Windows Phones will get the Mango update.

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That was a pretty cool video. Looking forward to the update.

I got the update about a week ago. AT&T is obviously the hold up. You're welcome - I love stating the obvious.

Well okay then. Apparently using the ChevronWP7 tool did not fubar the phone as MSFT alleged.