Computer Security = Guns, Lots of Guns

I had to IM a friend asking if he had rearranged his server room. But he doesn't have a .50 (yet, that I know of,) so I know it's not really him.

Plus, He's responsible and keeps his in gun safes. For those that wonder, if you buy right, you don't have to spend a fortune. My friend has most of what you can see in that picture (plus a few more,) yet he has spent less than $20k on his collection.

In my friend's case, the room his collection is in is a reinforced "safe" room in his basement that doubles as his server closet. Even inside that room, he keeps his guns in large gun safes. He doesn't have a monstrous pair of displays in there, though. His desktop gaming setup is in another room. The home media computer is in the safe room, though, with cabling going up through the ceiling to the other side of the wall where his projector is. (The home theater is right next to the server room.)
 
Trust me, you can't get most of that stuff and not spend over $20,000. Items like the M79 push it way over the top. A single NFA restricted AR-15 receiver can run you 12k to 15k alone. In semi-auto AR's, are cheap but there are plenty of other items in that collection that wouldn't be. The SPAS-12 alone will run you about a grand for one in working condition. More if it's complete. That one in the picture isn't, but you get the idea. The Barrett M82 runs about $7,500 if you shop around. For serviceable optics you'll plunk down another $300 for a SWFA or similar, but upwards of $1,500+ for a Swarovski or a Leupold Mark IV. A real M203 will run you $2,000. This is before you even get into tax stamps for some of the items. So mini-gun and rocket launcher not withstanding the highlights of that collection (if it were real) will run you well over $20,000. Your friend may have more guns that that. Hell I certainly have at various points. But do not think you can do most of that for $20,000 or less because you can't. Not for the real deal anyway.
 
You are shrinking, and your two little balls are shrinking with you. And the fact that you've got "Replica" written down the side of your guns...And the fact that I've got "Desert Eagle point five O" written down the side of mine... Should precipitate your balls into shrinking, along with your presence. Now... F***-off!
 
that dude or dudette looks pretty [H]ard to me. just goes to show you never know who's on the other side of the screen when you talk to someone else on the net.
 
Quick glance, my thoughts in order:

1 - His speakers aren't in the right place.

2 - Ouch my neck those screens aren't set up right. To close, to extreme of an angle

3 - Oh look, there's a bunch of plastic crap on the walls
 
Dylan80 said:
3 That is a fucking grenade launcher (ok someone may have a real one), but then they also have an ANTI-AIRCRAFT 50 cal automatic machine gun on the right (no way... pointless!)
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The Ma Duce on the right, it/is one of the most versitle guns ever created. Even being used as a sniper rifle at times. On the M1/M1A1 it was used against troops(if out of the 240) and against light vehicles/troop carriers. Other than that I agree completely.

Man all this talk makes me miss being a Tanker. (Excuse any grammer please using phone)
 
Dan_D said:
It wouldn't be live. Civilians can't own things like that unless they've been demilled and therefore rendered inoperable.
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...not even. Once you shoot an AT4, there's nothing left inside. It blows off the caps and the round goes flying out. ...nothing really else inside.

I still have the twisted up fins that I recovered from the first one I ever shot. That's all that I was able to recover and sadly they wouldn't let me keep the tube. I'd imagine that if you were an E5 or up, you could easily snag one from the range after a live fire though. Not sure if I'd want to have to explain to a cop why I have one of those in my car or house. At that point, it'd probably be better telling him that it's a novelty bong. (you'd be surprised what infantry privates do with some gear)

Grenades and high explosives are usually well accounted for (as you wouldn't want some jackass with a grudge blowing someone up) but you can usually get away with M203 rounds, flares, smoke grenades (hell, my buddy had a smoke pot), ammo and a lot of miscellaneous crap. Err...not that I would have any of that stuff.
 
PynkFloydd said:
...not even. Once you shoot an AT4, there's nothing left inside. It blows off the caps and the round goes flying out. ...nothing really else inside.

I still have the twisted up fins that I recovered from the first one I ever shot. That's all that I was able to recover and sadly they wouldn't let me keep the tube. I'd imagine that if you were an E5 or up, you could easily snag one from the range after a live fire though. Not sure if I'd want to have to explain to a cop why I have one of those in my car or house. At that point, it'd probably be better telling him that it's a novelty bong. (you'd be surprised what infantry privates do with some gear)

Grenades and high explosives are usually well accounted for (as you wouldn't want some jackass with a grudge blowing someone up) but you can usually get away with M203 rounds, flares, smoke grenades (hell, my buddy had a smoke pot), ammo and a lot of miscellaneous crap. Err...not that I would have any of that stuff.
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hence the reason he said rendered inoperable :)
 
For as much as this guy spent on Airsoft replicas he could have 5 or 6 real guns.
 
bearax said:
You are shrinking, and your two little balls are shrinking with you. And the fact that you've got "Replica" written down the side of your guns...And the fact that I've got "Desert Eagle point five O" written down the side of mine... Should precipitate your balls into shrinking, along with your presence. Now... F***-off!
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Bullet Tooth Tony quote ftw
 
I just hope this person doesn't work at my company. The last thing we need is a disgruntled charter member of the NRA losing his mind at work. This, of course, if any of that stuff is real.
 
Dan_D said:
SPAS-12's tend to be in firing order minus semi-automatic mode working. Unfortunately they rarely have the cross-bolt post recall safety, they tend to lack the O-ring for semi-automatic functionality, they are missing the J-Hook's if they are folding stock models. Most importantly they are often missing their receiver shock absorber. This is required for receiver longevity. Many people don't know that and continue to fire them without the shock absorber. This cases the bolt to slam into the back of the receiver repeatedly stress fracturing it over time. Worse yet they'll actually chamber 3" shells but such shells do not open fully in the receiver when fired and thus create an over pressure situation. This creates an ugly situation. As a result many SPAS-12's are unsafe to use.

They are quite collectible and valuable but you've got to know what you are looking at and you have to know what parts are needed to get one into safe firing condition. That also gets expensive. As for being novelty items and not really functional, not true. There are better designs for home defense and law enforcement use as the SPAS-12 tends to have more features than is necessary and is far more complex, costly, and maintenance intensive than other designs. However it's got a sweet trigger and is still one of the faster cycling guns out there. Recoil is minimal due to the weight of the weapon.
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You got that right, mine still had the rotating safety but i could never get it to malfunction. Mine was also incomplete, someone took off the butt stock to make it a pistol grip.

I did actually get mine to function using max dram birdshot.
 
itanium said:
You are right, that is an AT4.

It would be unobtainable as a civilian. Though legally you can own explosive weapons as a civilian. You have to register them as an NFA item (destructive device, $200 stamp) and jump through some hoops to prove that they were consumed when you finally do light them off.
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Expended AT4's are obtainable. once fired, an AT4 is thrown away, just like a LAW rocket.

their are examples in collectors hands of all these weapons, including the MG42, the BAR and the M2HB to the right. even the Minigun is owned by private collecters, at least one example, anyway. (an Idiot killed himself with it at a full auto shoot a while back by rotating the barrels by hand while it was loaded, while standing in front of it) Ironically, the hardest weapon to obtain in full auto would be the P90 hangin to the left. (due to ATDF regs on new full auto weapon transfers) The M2 against the wall weighs about 80 pounds, I packed a real one around enough to know. the Barret on the shelf wieghs about 25. if they were real, the shelves would have collapsed all fakes, or airsoft
 
CharonPDX said:
I had to IM a friend asking if he had rearranged his server room. But he doesn't have a .50 (yet, that I know of,) so I know it's not really him.

Plus, He's responsible and keeps his in gun safes. For those that wonder, if you buy right, you don't have to spend a fortune. My friend has most of what you can see in that picture (plus a few more,) yet he has spent less than $20k on his collection.

In my friend's case, the room his collection is in is a reinforced "safe" room in his basement that doubles as his server closet. Even inside that room, he keeps his guns in large gun safes. He doesn't have a monstrous pair of displays in there, though. His desktop gaming setup is in another room. The home media computer is in the safe room, though, with cabling going up through the ceiling to the other side of the wall where his projector is. (The home theater is right next to the server room.)
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semiauto versions of the weapons pictured here would set you back 20K plus. 1 MG42 transferable in good working condition is prolly around 20K nowdays.

now, if your friend bought his collection before 1986, I can see your statement being true. A legally transferable autosear from an m16 is thousands of dollars these days. about the cheapest legal full auto weapon to buy now is prolly a MAC-10
 
Dan_D said:
Maybe to the untrained eye they do, but the launchers look different to me. I've never seen a 100% accurate flare launcher. Now I've seen M203 receivers which are actually Title I firearms by themselves equipped with 37mm barrels. However these are extremely expensive alternatives to more common Cobray and Spike's Tactical 37mm launchers which look like knock offs of the real deal.
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You are correct. I've never owned one, but I have known people who did own the 37mm devices and they are designed that way from what I can tell. The ATF would never allow anything that could be converted into a 40mm launcher.
 
Dan_D said:
Trust me, you can't get most of that stuff and not spend over $20,000. Items like the M79 push it way over the top. A single NFA restricted AR-15 receiver can run you 12k to 15k alone. In semi-auto AR's, are cheap but there are plenty of other items in that collection that wouldn't be. The SPAS-12 alone will run you about a grand for one in working condition. More if it's complete. That one in the picture isn't, but you get the idea. The Barrett M82 runs about $7,500 if you shop around. For serviceable optics you'll plunk down another $300 for a SWFA or similar, but upwards of $1,500+ for a Swarovski or a Leupold Mark IV. A real M203 will run you $2,000. This is before you even get into tax stamps for some of the items. So mini-gun and rocket launcher not withstanding the highlights of that collection (if it were real) will run you well over $20,000. Your friend may have more guns that that. Hell I certainly have at various points. But do not think you can do most of that for $20,000 or less because you can't. Not for the real deal anyway.
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I think what he means is that he has stuff that looks like them. A real M16, of which there are precious few that can actually be owned by citizens, will cost $15k by itself. A semi-auto which looks just like (as you noted to the untrained eye) can be had for as little as $600-700...a really nice one is still only 1/10th the M16 cost. Etc. etc.

I like Schmidt & Bender PMIIs for my long range guns. $3k+ no sweat for a scope. Hensoldts and Premiers are very nice too, but Nightforce is my "mid-range" scope of choice. The M82 usually ships with the Leopold MK4, but mine came with a Bushnell Elite 3200 which I promptly replaced.
 
Regardless of them being airsoft, this level of obsession is clinical. For christ's sake, that is an M60 top left, 23lbs if real. Why would he want a replica M60? Most people would not even recognize it today, hell most US soldiers would not recognize it.
Yet, I cannot condemn him completely. Multi monitor and one bad ass chair for the win.
 
That's way too much weapons maintenance for me. I'm too lazy to own(and take care of) that many weapons.

If that AT4 was real, I would never ever bring the damn thing in my house much less by my desk lol. :eek:
 
wra18th said:
The last thing we need is a disgruntled charter member of the NRA losing his mind at work.
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I doubt that would happen. The NRA may get a lot of bad press, but they do take firearms safety, and criminal prosecution of those using firearms for illegal purposes, very seriously. Besides, when's the last time you heard of someone getting shot at an NRA convention? ;)
 
Japanese... Some are obsessed with the trains, some with the mangas, some with the guns...
 
wra18th said:
I just hope this person doesn't work at my company. The last thing we need is a disgruntled charter member of the NRA losing his mind at work. This, of course, if any of that stuff is real.
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News flash: you've got multiple gun owners working at your company, and they're not going to shoot anybody. That's the case with more than 99% of gun owners. Stereotyping fail.
 
Stiletto said:
News flash: you've got multiple gun owners working at your company, and they're not going to shoot anybody. That's the case with more than 99% of gun owners. Stereotyping fail.
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It's amazing how many stupid people spew that garbage and believe it, though, along with some other things I can mention.
 
This guy has obsessive issues, and no it's not the guns. Look around the picture. He's got multiples of just about everything: guns, monitors, laptops, headsets, stereos, phones/PDAs. Guy's got some hoarding problems...
 
Stiletto said:
News flash: you've got multiple gun owners working at your company, and they're not going to shoot anybody. That's the case with more than 99% of gun owners. Stereotyping fail.
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There is a flaw with your statement there. IF these were real, this is more than your average person would own. Being a gun owner and having every wall in your house plastered with guns is different. One just likes guns, the other could be planning to arm a small army. Not saying that it has to happen, but if that person was to go crazy and go on a killing spree that is when you would hear about how everyone knew they had millions worth of guns sitting around their house.
 
Exavior said:
There is a flaw with your statement there. IF these were real, this is more than your average person would own. Being a gun owner and having every wall in your house plastered with guns is different. One just likes guns, the other could be planning to arm a small army. Not saying that it has to happen, but if that person was to go crazy and go on a killing spree that is when you would hear about how everyone knew they had millions worth of guns sitting around their house.
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Flaw with your premise: the people who go on killing sprees nearly always use one or two handguns that they recently purchased, not arsenals they've spent years building. They also usually haven't owned weapons until they bought the ones they used for their sprees.

Again, stop falling for the canard that anti-gun people employ to try to conflate lunatics who go on rampages with normal, everyday gun owners. And yes, plenty of those gun owners own multiple weapons that, placed around their PC, while not quite as extensive as this picture, would still look imposing.
 
Exavior said:
There is a flaw with your statement there. IF these were real, this is more than your average person would own. Being a gun owner and having every wall in your house plastered with guns is different. One just likes guns, the other could be planning to arm a small army. Not saying that it has to happen, but if that person was to go crazy and go on a killing spree that is when you would hear about how everyone knew they had millions worth of guns sitting around their house.
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Another flaw. You clearly don't know many gun owners. If these particular models were real they would represent very few gun owners only because of government regulations artificially inflating their prices. The number of guns is actually not that many. One of the reasons for this is that guns don't go out of date like tech. Guns last long enough to get passed down through generations. It is quite easy to acquire many guns when they last a lifetime.

The view of "average" gun owner is greatly skewed by the media. Anyone who owns more than one or two has an "arsenal" is a joke. There are a large number of people who keep one gun around the house or have one gun for hunting, but after that the number owned is a lot higher. Surveys are dubious at best because a lot of gun owners are very independently minded and either won't answer or report less than they actually have because it is nobody's business how many they own as long as they are behaving legally.
 
Exavior said:
There is a flaw with your statement there. IF these were real, this is more than your average person would own. Being a gun owner and having every wall in your house plastered with guns is different. One just likes guns, the other could be planning to arm a small army. Not saying that it has to happen, but if that person was to go crazy and go on a killing spree that is when you would hear about how everyone knew they had millions worth of guns sitting around their house.
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People who spend over one million dollars on a gun collection aren't going to go on a shooting spree.

That's like claiming Jay Leno could be planning to mobilize gang members.
 
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