Issue with P6T Deluxe and Vista. Help Greatly Appreciated.

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I have recently built a new pc with the following specs:

Asus P6T Deluxe OC Palm
i7-920 2.66GHz
3x 2GB OCZ Gold DDR3 1600
BFGTech Geforce GTX 280

Here is my problem. When I boot from the Vista install DVD, I get a BSOD with a "STOP: 0x00000124" error immediately following the initial Vista setup progress bar. The Vista install wallpaper and mouse cursor come up. There is no activity on the optical drive and I get the bsod after about 2 minutes or so sitting at this screen.

I have tried this with the pre SP1 32 bit install disc and the SP1 64 bit install disc with the exact same results.

I have updated to the latest BIOS revision(1003).

I have tried it with one stick, two sticks, and three sticks of memory.

I tried with a different video card.

I tried a different, although identical, optical drive.

Everything I have tried has done the exact same thing at the exact same point after booting with the Vista disk.

I installed XP Pro 32 bit with no issues whatsoever. It runs rock solid with XP Pro.

This is proving to be very frustrating. I have done extensive google searches already on this and have tried everything I could find from those results.

I have also spoken with Asus technical support and tried all of there suggestions with no luck.

I'm hoping someone on this forum has ran in to this issue or could at least point me in the right direction.

Thanks in advance for the help.
 
Well you may have already tried this, but have you tried booting the Vista install disk on a working computer to see if it progresses into the installation menu without the BSOD? It could be the files on the disk are corrupt? I am just throwing something out there to try to help I know it must stink not being able to get your new system up. Also you may want to try installing it using the same dvd drive on another system.
 
Thanks for the reply. I have used the pre SP1 32 bit install disc with this same optical drive with no issues on another system. I have also tried a completely different install disc(Vista sp1 64 bit) with the same issue on my new system.
 
im not real familiar with that board, but it sounds like a driver issue with the SATA controller - check asus's site for an updated SATA or raid driver to see if that helps - with F6 as you are booting up

I used to have similar problems like that with some mobo's and xp so it makes sense to me that its a driver problem and not a disc problem
 
Try this:

1. Go to the BIOS by pressing [DEL] during POST.
2. Go to Advanced Chipset Features.
3. Go to CPU Configuration
4. Select C1E Enhanced Halt State and set it to Disabled
5. Press [F10] to save the changes and exit.

Try disabling onboard sound and not using an add-in sound card during installation.


How's the wattage on your PSU?

Have a look at this:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/952681
 
0x124 is a machine check exception. I expect that you have a faulty CPU or bad memory, but it can be just about anything--but it's faulty hardware or a bad BIOS configuration. Did Burner's advice help?
 
Lamont Cranston said:
im not real familiar with that board, but it sounds like a driver issue with the SATA controller - check asus's site for an updated SATA or raid driver to see if that helps - with F6 as you are booting up

I used to have similar problems like that with some mobo's and xp so it makes sense to me that its a driver problem and not a disc problem
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I've only installed Vista one other time, so I don't remember how the third party driver option works exactly, but it doesn't get to a point where I have any options. It blue screens during the automated booting process before I ever get a chance to do anything.
 
Burner27 said:
Try this:

1. Go to the BIOS by pressing [DEL] during POST.
2. Go to Advanced Chipset Features.
3. Go to CPU Configuration
4. Select C1E Enhanced Halt State and set it to Disabled
5. Press [F10] to save the changes and exit.

Try disabling onboard sound and not using an add-in sound card during installation.


How's the wattage on your PSU?

Have a look at this:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/952681
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I will give this option a shot. I just don't think that this is something I should have to do to boot the Vista installer.

My PSU is an 800 watt OCZ Elite Stream, so I don't believe power is an issue.

I've also read through that article and it is interesting. If I read it correctly, however, the article assumes that the blue screen happens after windows load and is caused by hot swapping or hot swappable pcie devices of which I have none. The only thing on my pcie bus is my GTX 280. I have also tried installing with a 7800 GT with the exact same results.
 
mikeblas said:
0x124 is a machine check exception. I expect that you have a faulty CPU or bad memory, but it can be just about anything--but it's faulty hardware or a bad BIOS configuration. Did Burner's advice help?
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If it was a hardware issue, I wouldn't think that I could install XP with no issues whatsoever. I've had XP loaded on it for a few days now and it is working perfectly.

As far as the BIOS configuration, I've left the majority of the setting default just for simplicity until I get everything stable and the way I want it. I have disabled a device or two that I am not using and I have just recently set my memory timings and voltage to manufacturer specs, but nothing I have done has made a difference. It is a very predictable and consistent bsod.
 
[H]eckel;1033482105 said:
If it was a hardware issue, I wouldn't think that I could install XP with no issues whatsoever. I've had XP loaded on it for a few days now and it is working perfectly.
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I do not agree with you here. If you are using an onboard sound card or add-in soundcard that Vista doesn't have drivers for or mistakenly loads incompatible drivers, then i can understand your error. Same goes for video drivers, HDD controllers, etc......


Did you try installing Vista with onboard sound disabled or removing an add-in soundcard?
 
[H]eckel;1033482105 said:
If it was a hardware issue, I wouldn't think that I could install XP with no issues whatsoever. I've had XP loaded on it for a few days now and it is working perfectly.
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It's possible, but I've very rarely seen MCEs come from hardware that was physically okay. A simple and feasible explanation for the problem only appearing on XP is that your Vista setup exercises hardware in a different way --some dirver is install that isn't, some driver isn't installed that is, or works in a different or enhanced mode. You said you're runing Vista64 and XP32, right? So that's a substantial difference, and I don't think you've completely eliminated hardware.
 
Well I was referring to defective hardware. I understand Vista and XP load different drivers, but the hardware physically functions under XP with no issues so I don't think the hardware is defective.

I had no add on sound card installed at the time the error occurred, but I did not disable the onboard sound. If it was a case with the onboard sound causing an issue though, there would be reports of this all over the place since this seems to be a fairly popular mobo.

That is something else that I can try though.


I have also tried the vista 32 bit install disc and it does the exact same thing as the 64 bit.
 
[H]eckel;1033483957 said:
Well I was referring to defective hardware. I understand Vista and XP load different drivers, but the hardware physically functions under XP with no issues so I don't think the hardware is defective.
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You have to demonstrate that the hardware does the same function in Vista64 as XP32 for this conclusion to stick. You haven't, therefore it's still an unconstrained variable.
 
[H]eckel;1033471944 said:
I have recently built a new pc with the following specs:

Asus P6T Deluxe OC Palm
i7-920 2.66GHz
3x 2GB OCZ Gold DDR3 1600
BFGTech Geforce GTX 280

Here is my problem. When I boot from the Vista install DVD, I get a BSOD with a "STOP: 0x00000124" error immediately following the initial Vista setup progress bar. The Vista install wallpaper and mouse cursor come up. There is no activity on the optical drive and I get the bsod after about 2 minutes or so sitting at this screen.

I have tried this with the pre SP1 32 bit install disc and the SP1 64 bit install disc with the exact same results.

I have updated to the latest BIOS revision(1003).

I have tried it with one stick, two sticks, and three sticks of memory.

I tried with a different video card.

I tried a different, although identical, optical drive.

Everything I have tried has done the exact same thing at the exact same point after booting with the Vista disk.

I installed XP Pro 32 bit with no issues whatsoever. It runs rock solid with XP Pro.

This is proving to be very frustrating. I have done extensive google searches already on this and have tried everything I could find from those results.

I have also spoken with Asus technical support and tried all of there suggestions with no luck.

I'm hoping someone on this forum has ran in to this issue or could at least point me in the right direction.

Thanks in advance for the help.
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What's the rest of your setup? How many hard drives are you working with and what kind of optical drive (SATA or IDE)? What are you set in the BIOS for your SATA connectivity? If there's a jumper on your optical drive, is it set correctly? What SATA ports are you plugged into (the SAS ones or the standard red ones)?

I got a BSOD on my EVGA 780i board when I accidentally enabled SATA and eSATA on the same port in BIOS. I'm guessing but, it could be something with how you setup your RAID or SATA options in the BIOS. ...or some kind of conflict with a setting you enabled.

I'm on a single drive and I set my SATA to AHCI (not IDE or RAID) and Vista x64 installed fine without any drivers needed. I was reading a lot while the Vista setup was running and I think if you setup a RAID configuration, you'll need to load drivers in the Vista install or you'll have problems. (don't quote me on this cause I haven't installed a RAID array in my Vista install) Going off of memory, I think you can load your RAID drivers in the same screen that you can format and set your partitions during the Vista install.

My experience with the P6T is that it's a great board but, it's got some quirks. I hope something from all of that helps.
 
[H]eckel;1033483957 said:
Well I was referring to defective hardware. I understand Vista and XP load different drivers, but the hardware physically functions under XP with no issues so I don't think the hardware is defective.

I had no add on sound card installed at the time the error occurred, but I did not disable the onboard sound. If it was a case with the onboard sound causing an issue though, there would be reports of this all over the place since this seems to be a fairly popular mobo.

That is something else that I can try though.


I have also tried the vista 32 bit install disc and it does the exact same thing as the 64 bit.
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I think you have to understand that Vista's design is much different from XP. Things that the OS had access to at the HW level is no longer the case with Vista. Plus you are using new architecture--there are bound to be some quirks. Did you try setting the BIOS to use 'optimized defaults' and then load the OS? Have you tried different RAM? I understand that it 'works' with XP, so let's not revisit that. We want to help you with your Vista install.

What is the HDD controller mode set to? Is there any third party HDD controller setting you can disable for the install?
 
PynkFloydd said:
What's the rest of your setup? How many hard drives are you working with and what kind of optical drive (SATA or IDE)? What are you set in the BIOS for your SATA connectivity? If there's a jumper on your optical drive, is it set correctly? What SATA ports are you plugged into (the SAS ones or the standard red ones)?

I got a BSOD on my EVGA 780i board when I accidentally enabled SATA and eSATA on the same port in BIOS. I'm guessing but, it could be something with how you setup your RAID or SATA options in the BIOS. ...or some kind of conflict with a setting you enabled.

I'm on a single drive and I set my SATA to AHCI (not IDE or RAID) and Vista x64 installed fine without any drivers needed. I was reading a lot while the Vista setup was running and I think if you setup a RAID configuration, you'll need to load drivers in the Vista install or you'll have problems. (don't quote me on this cause I haven't installed a RAID array in my Vista install) Going off of memory, I think you can load your RAID drivers in the same screen that you can format and set your partitions during the Vista install.

My experience with the P6T is that it's a great board but, it's got some quirks. I hope something from all of that helps.
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I have 3 SATA drives plugged in to the first three SATA ports(not the SAS ports). Two of them are 35GB WD Raptors. The other one is a 320GB WD Caviar. I don't remember the exact SATA setting in the bios, but I left it default. I orginally had the Raptors set up in a RAID 0 array, but it didn't make a difference either way. These drives are about 3 years old, so I'm pretty sure they are not SATA 2 capable. I used the hard drives out of my previous computer to save some money on this build.

The optical drive is an IDE NEC DVD burner. I did check the jumper on it a few days ago and I believe it was set to master. If the jumper was set wrong, would it even boot from the disc in the first place? The bios has no problem detecting the optical drive, booting from it, or reading from it.

I am going to try it with on older dvd drive that I have to rule that out. I'm also going to play around with the bios settings some more to see if I can't further narrow this down.

I really appreciate all the advice everyone is offering here. This has been frustrating to say the least.
 
Burner27 said:
I think you have to understand that Vista's design is much different from XP. Things that the OS had access to at the HW level is no longer the case with Vista. Plus you are using new architecture--there are bound to be some quirks. Did you try setting the BIOS to use 'optimized defaults' and then load the OS? Have you tried different RAM? I understand that it 'works' with XP, so let's not revisit that. We want to help you with your Vista install.

What is the HDD controller mode set to? Is there any third party HDD controller setting you can disable for the install?
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I would really like to try different memory, but the only ddr3 that I have is the 3 sticks in this machine. That is the only component other than the board and CPU that I am not able to swap out. I did try it with different configurations and timings of those three sticks with no luck.

Going to check the HDD controller modes tonight and see if that leads me anywhere.
 
Guys, looks like I figured out the problem.

Apparantly it has to do with some combination of the Marvel IDE controller on the P6T, my NEC DVD burner, and the Vista installer.

The NEC works to install XP on my P6T
The NEC works to install Vista on my old P5N32
The NEC does not work to install Vista on my P6T

I put an old Pioneer DVD drive on my P6T and Vista is installing at this moment on the P6T. It is rather slow, but there was no hesitation whatsoever in the boot disc process this time.

The funny thing is, I tried a different optical drive near the beginning of my troubleshooting. It was just and identical NEC optical drive.

I just hope after the install, I can hook the NEC back up and it will work. If not, I'm just gonna have to spring for a fancy new sata optical drive or something. I have been needing to upgrade to blue ray. :)

Thanks again everyone for all the advice.
 
[H]eckel;1033490363 said:
Guys, looks like I figured out the problem.

Apparantly it has to do with some combination of the Marvel IDE controller on the P6T, my NEC DVD burner, and the Vista installer.

The NEC works to install XP on my P6T
The NEC works to install Vista on my old P5N32
The NEC does not work to install Vista on my P6T

I put an old Pioneer DVD drive on my P6T and Vista is installing at this moment on the P6T. It is rather slow, but there was no hesitation whatsoever in the boot disc process this time.

The funny thing is, I tried a different optical drive near the beginning of my troubleshooting. It was just and identical NEC optical drive.

I just hope after the install, I can hook the NEC back up and it will work. If not, I'm just gonna have to spring for a fancy new sata optical drive or something. I have been needing to upgrade to blue ray. :)

Thanks again everyone for all the advice.
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Try seeing if there is a firmware upgrade for your NEC drive. That could fix the issue.
 
Burner27 said:
Try seeing if there is a firmware upgrade for your NEC drive. That could fix the issue.
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I've never upgraded the firmware of an optical drive, but I will definitely check out that possibility.

I've got the system running, updated, and fully functional and the drive works perfectly within the Vista environment.

*shrug*
 
Welp, congrats!
I've never encountered problem with Marvell drivers, but I've disabled them at CMOS since it was pretty annoying...
 
[H]eckel;1033490363 said:
Guys, looks like I figured out the problem.

Apparantly it has to do with some combination of the Marvel IDE controller on the P6T, my NEC DVD burner, and the Vista installer.

The NEC works to install XP on my P6T
The NEC works to install Vista on my old P5N32
The NEC does not work to install Vista on my P6T

I put an old Pioneer DVD drive on my P6T and Vista is installing at this moment on the P6T. It is rather slow, but there was no hesitation whatsoever in the boot disc process this time.

The funny thing is, I tried a different optical drive near the beginning of my troubleshooting. It was just and identical NEC optical drive.

I just hope after the install, I can hook the NEC back up and it will work. If not, I'm just gonna have to spring for a fancy new sata optical drive or something. I have been needing to upgrade to blue ray. :)

Thanks again everyone for all the advice.
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Good to hear that you got everything working!

I disabled the Marvell controller at first --I was excited, wasn't paying close attention and thought it was the SAS controller-- and couldn't figure out why my DVD drive wasn't working right. Right now, I have the Marvell controller and the boot ROM enabled and it works great. It's an ooooold Samsung from around the time that AMD's socket 939 first came out. Burner27's got a great point. It's worth checking for a firmware update.

I've been looking at Bluray drivers and it's looking like $100 will get you a Bluray reader with a CD/DVD burner. They're dropping slowly so it's worth a look at Newegg.
 
[H]eckel;1033491985 said:
I've never upgraded the firmware of an optical drive, but I will definitely check out that possibility.
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I'm glad you've got it up. Updating the firmware isn't much harder than flashing a BIOS. I had found a site which has lists of optical drive models and links to all their update versions and tools... I'll see if I can dig it out.
 
PynkFloydd said:
Good to hear that you got everything working!

I disabled the Marvell controller at first --I was excited, wasn't paying close attention and thought it was the SAS controller-- and couldn't figure out why my DVD drive wasn't working right. Right now, I have the Marvell controller and the boot ROM enabled and it works great. It's an ooooold Samsung from around the time that AMD's socket 939 first came out. Burner27's got a great point. It's worth checking for a firmware update.

I've been looking at Bluray drivers and it's looking like $100 will get you a Bluray reader with a CD/DVD burner. They're dropping slowly so it's worth a look at Newegg.
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It's funny you mention that. I did the exact same thing when I first started troubleshooting the thing. I'm not used to the IDE controller being a third party boot ROM.
 
Well, updated to firmware on the optical drive and now it boots the Vista DVD with no issues.

Thanks again guys for everyone's advice.

Now if I could just get the replacement for my defective GTX 280, all would be perfect. :)
 
[H]eckel;1033494185 said:
It's funny you mention that. I did the exact same thing when I first started troubleshooting the thing. I'm not used to the IDE controller being a third party boot ROM.
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Right? The BIOS took some getting used to for me. ...everything from that AHCI, RAID and IDE selection for the SATA to the seemingly unlimited things you can tweak voltage for.

I'm coming from a 780i motherboard and the BIOS seemed to me to be a lot more straight-forward to setup but, overclocking was a lot harder. ...while the P6T seems more of a pain to setup and overclocking takes almost no effort. Kind of ironic.

Glad to hear you got that drive running too!
 
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