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bostesseger69

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First bear in mind this is my first WC setup.

Can someone tell me if this is to much? I'm idling at 50C load at about 60 or so on my q6600. Its not over clocked by much, only at 3.5 @ 1.4V, and I've got a stock settings 8800gts on the loop to.

I've got it set up like this. Pump, to resevoir, to radiator, then y split from radiator to gts and cpu, then y split back to pump.

Do I need to change the flow or try and reset the as5 on the cpu or what?

Thanks for the help ahead of time.
 
That's not too bad, considering you have your G80 in the same loop and running 1.4v on the CPU.

What pump, rad, and blocks are you running?

Best bet would be:

Radiator to Reservoir

Reservoir to Pump

Pump to CPU

CPU to GPU

GPU to Radiator

And don't use Y-fittings.
 
bostesseger69 said:
Can someone tell me if this is to much? I'm idling at 50C load at about 60 or so on my q6600. Its not over clocked by much, only at 3.5 @ 1.4V, and I've got a stock settings 8800gts on the loop to.
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50c idle on WC is way too high.

bostesseger69 said:
Do I need to change the flow or try and reset the as5 on the cpu or what?
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That's not a bad idea at all.
8800GTS do produce a lot of heat. What is the size of your radiator?
 
Im using dtek cpu/gpu blocks, 2x120mm radiator with some scythe 83cfm fans pulling air in from the top of the case, plus ive got 3 other scythe 83cfm fans running in the case.....that leads to another question, how many fans do I need for airflow in the case other than the radiator fans? Maybe 1 from the side to hit the videocard and NB/SB hs's?......ok, so I just need to run 1 loop, no dual loop with y fittings? Can I get second opinion on this, I've heard dual loop = cooler temps. I'll reset the block as well.
 
bostesseger69 said:
Im using dtek cpu/gpu blocks, 2x120mm radiator with some scythe 83cfm fans pulling air in from the top of the case, plus ive got 3 other scythe 83cfm fans running in the case.....that leads to another question, how many fans do I need for airflow in the case other than the radiator fans? Maybe 1 from the side to hit the videocard and NB/SB hs's?......ok, so I just need to run 1 loop, no dual loop with y fittings? Can I get second opinion on this, I've heard dual loop = cooler temps. I'll reset the block as well.
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Usually you don't want to pull air into the top of the case. I would probably reverse those and exaust air out of the case since you are kind of forcing hot air to stay in the case since it rises. 3 Case fans should be sufficient to cool everything else. See if reversing the top fans helps. You can put a fan blowing on the video card to cool the ram off.
 
vtx_ said:
Usually you don't want to pull air into the top of the case. I would probably reverse those and exaust air out of the case since you are kind of forcing hot air to stay in the case since it rises. 3 Case fans should be sufficient to cool everything else. See if reversing the top fans helps. You can put a fan blowing on the video card to cool the ram off.
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Ok....I'll try that to I just thought it might be better to be pulling cool air into the rad, but thats an easy change.

Can someone else give me second opinion on the changing the y-fittings out to just 1 loop since thats a lot of work and I dont want to do it if I dont have to.
 
I think the Y in your loop could be what is hurting you.
Try running the two blocks in series instead.
 
Hey bost, wy do you have your pump going into your Reservoir? It should be
Reservoir->Pump->Rad->...

I think you should dump the Y fitting, and go

Reservoir->Pump->Rad->CPU->GPU->Reservoir
 
bostesseger69 said:
Im using dtek cpu/gpu blocks, 2x120mm radiator with some scythe 83cfm fans pulling air in from the top of the case, plus ive got 3 other scythe 83cfm fans running in the case.....that leads to another question, how many fans do I need for airflow in the case other than the radiator fans? Maybe 1 from the side to hit the videocard and NB/SB hs's?......ok, so I just need to run 1 loop, no dual loop with y fittings? Can I get second opinion on this, I've heard dual loop = cooler temps. I'll reset the block as well.
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Your radiator fan setup seems fine, most 120mm fans work better pulling that pushing, and they're bringing in cool outside air as well.

But you're not running a dual loop, you're running a single loop.

A dual loop means each loop has its own radiator and pump. What you've done is to take a single loop and set it up in perhaps the worst possible configuration.

The reason I said to not use the Y-fittings is that they seriously screw with your flow, and you're going to have enough flow problems routing it the way I suggested above.

Why flow problems? Because while your D-Tek CPU block is very free-flowing (without nozzles), the D-Tek Fuzion GFX block is VERY VERY restrictive.

So you need to have a strong pump if you keep it on a single loop even without using the Y-fittings. It just gets worse if you're using Quad nozzles on the CPU block, further restricting your flow. Depending on the pump and what radiator you're using, that setup can drop you well below 1gpm flow rate, and that's not optimal.

Here's a good thread on flow rates, with a handy Excel flow-rate estimator:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=151627

Author has taken down the spreadsheet temporarily to update it.
 
Ok...so Im going to change out the y-fittings to 1 "loop"....and run rad>res>pump>cpu>gpu>rad? Do those changes look ok?
 
That'll work. Still curious as to what pump and radiator you're using.
 
Ok, good pump, but restrictive radiator.

You'll need to run the pump at setting 4 or 5 to keep above 1 gallon per minute flow rate, assuming ~5 feet of 1/2" tubing and losing the Y-fittings.
 
Well...I just took out y connectors and did RAD>RES>PUMP>CPU>GPU>RAD and now I'm getting even worse temps 54 idle.....any other ideas?
 
bostesseger69 said:
Well...I just took out y connectors and did RAD>RES>PUMP>CPU>GPU>RAD and now I'm getting even worse temps 54 idle.....any other ideas?
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Is your D5 on the highest flow setting (5)? Are you sure you have a good mount on your FuZion? That low of a difference between idle and load sounds like a bad mount and/or not enough flow to me. Pics would help, but I'm otherwise finding difficulty explaining why you have that high of temps.
 
ikellensbro said:
Is your D5 on the highest flow setting (5)? Are you sure you have a good mount on your FuZion? That low of a difference between idle and load sounds like a bad mount and/or not enough flow to me. Pics would help, but I'm otherwise finding difficulty explaining why you have that high of temps.
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Agreed, while this is a bad (read - really bad) explanation, think of it as the Res kills ALL the (head/pressure) "pushing" and for the rest of the loop it just becomes "pulling", now "pulling" or a weak "push" (head/pressure) can not "take away" heat as well as a strong push, EVEN WITH A DECENT FLOW RATE.

Cheers (oh and to back him up, yes, the y fittings were a bad idea)
 
bost, are these temps at stock CPU settings?

I see in our sig you have it over clocked, mabey your quad just puts out alot of heat at your current overclock? Try dropping it back down to stock and seeing what you get.
 
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bost, are these temps at stock CPU settings?

I see in our sig you have it over clocked, mabey your quad just puts out alot of heat at your current overclock? Try dropping it back down to stock and seeing what you get.
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Yes it is overclocked, but it ran cooler than this on air.....with a higher overclock.
 
ok, wasn't sure, just checkin :p

I'm not sure what to tell you then sry.

My best guess would be your dual rad just cant handle the heat of a quad and a 8800GTS. I'm thinking mabey what you should do is buy another single rad, and put it imbetween your CPU and GTS if you can afford it.
 
The radiator definitely cannot handle this setup for sure. You need to get at least a triple like a Swiftect MCR320 or even a Thermochill PA120.3

My setup in sig give me a max of 42C GPU and 48C CPU temp under full load (prime95+RTHDRIBL at the same time).

 
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