q6600 50C+ idle temps

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chopsu

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first off, im thinking after reading alot of threads here im running pretty hot.

specs:
-msi p6n sli
-q6600 b3 - stock everything (no overclocking) with EIST enabled
-arctic cooler pro 7
-arctic silver 5
-coolermaster elite 331 case - 120mm yate loon intake, 120mm cooler master exhaust, 80mm generic side exhaust fan, 80mm exhaust fan over the side vent (for vid card cooling), 80mm intake fan ghetto rigged under my dvd drive (this dropped cpu temps 2 degrees overall)

im running temps at idle of about 52-56C for Core 1 while the other 3 cores hover around 49-51C with an ambient temp of about 30C. ive seen people idling at 30C with this cpu. i was going to reseat the heatsink/fan this weekend and possibly even lap the heatsink. im used to p4's idling at 20-25C with a single exhaust fan. i dont know why its idling so high..prime95 takes it upto 72-74C. id say my case has VERY GOOD air circulation...and the arctic cooler isnt even warm to the touch.
 
You're already considering it but lapping might be the answer, I don't know how good the arctic cooler pro 7 is at handling quads though, so check into that first.

I had a Scythe Ninja rev b and was getting temps similar to yours, even after lapping!

Jumped ship to a Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme and I'm much happier now, I guess some heatsinks just ain't cut out for quads.

You should ideally be looking for 35-40DegC idle and <60DegC under load, though of course your ambient temps will effect this
 
darn...i was hoping i wouldnt have to buy another heatsink. the arctic cooler was already 25bucks. its similar to the stock intel hsf except 10x quieter which is kinda what im going for, but its running way to hot imo.

about the thermalright ultra 120 extreme...i dunno if thatd fit in my case. how tall is it from the seated position to the very top?
 
chopsu said:
darn...i was hoping i wouldnt have to buy another heatsink. the arctic cooler was already 25bucks. its similar to the stock intel hsf except 10x quieter which is kinda what im going for, but its running way to hot imo.

about the thermalright ultra 120 extreme...i dunno if thatd fit in my case. how tall is it from the seated position to the very top?
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160.5mm top to bottom
 
the thermalright ultra 120 extreme is fanless correct? If so do you add any extra fans to your case?
 
chopsu said:
first off, im thinking after reading alot of threads here im running pretty hot.

specs:
-msi p6n sli
-q6600 b3 - stock everything (no overclocking) with EIST enabled
-arctic cooler pro 7
-arctic silver 5
-coolermaster elite 331 case - 120mm yate loon intake, 120mm cooler master exhaust, 80mm generic side exhaust fan, 80mm exhaust fan over the side vent (for vid card cooling), 80mm intake fan ghetto rigged under my dvd drive (this dropped cpu temps 2 degrees overall)

im running temps at idle of about 52-56C for Core 1 while the other 3 cores hover around 49-51C with an ambient temp of about 30C. ive seen people idling at 30C with this cpu. i was going to reseat the heatsink/fan this weekend and possibly even lap the heatsink. im used to p4's idling at 20-25C with a single exhaust fan. i dont know why its idling so high..prime95 takes it upto 72-74C. id say my case has VERY GOOD air circulation...and the arctic cooler isnt even warm to the touch.
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Whats in red is not helping your temps.
 
chopsu said:
with an ambient temp of about 30C
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That's your main problem. The hotter your ambient, the less effective air cooling is. Most people I've seen who post their ambient temperatures, and most reviews, are conducted in the very low 20's. At 30 your HSF's efficiency drops dramatically.

That, and your HSF isn't that good as the above poster said.
 
i dont wanna drop the pennies down on a 65 dollar thermalright 120 though :-/. i did some research before buying the arctic cooler though, it was supposed to be a decent cooler.
 
If its not being overclocked, then the temps are a bit high but well within the range of what the chip can handle. I say if you dont plan to overclock, dont spend more money and leave it as it is. If you do plan to overclock, get a Tuniq Tower 120 or Ultra 120 Extreme
 
It is decent, but the key there is decent. It's better than the stock HSF for sure, but it's still not the best.

If I was you, I'd find a way to lower your ambient temperature (A/C, etc.). If you were OCing I'd suggest lowering your OC, but since that's not the case there's not much else you can do really, unless you want to underclock it.
 
you are cool as long as you aren't folding, or going to overclock it. All the same I would lap both the cpu and heatsink. My temps went down 10c on my b3, It was pretty concave.
 
Rather then go to all the trouble of lapping (I did that with my sink,but I had a very single minded goal with it,which was not to break 3.6+ but to oc passively)

Save and buy a better sink.You dont need to get a TRUE to get what you want.Try a ULTIMA 90 or 128-SE , Zerotherm , Iceage 120 , a used Zalman 9700 on Ebay.
check your pm's....
 
will definately check out the zalman. i dont know whats wrong though...newegg says the arctic cooler 7 pro should do fine. many reviews with people hitting 30-40C with no issues at all. i tried reseating it and cleaning and reapplying as5 and still around the same temps. although i hear theres a break in period.
 
those people most probably live in cooler places with much lower ambient temps.
again, if you dont plan to overclock, keep the cooler and just forget about it.
 
djBon2112 said:
If I was you, I'd find a way to lower your ambient temperature (A/C, etc.)
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If he doesn't want to spend money on a better heatsink then I fail to see how cooling the entire house would be financially sound.
 
thanks for all the suggestions guys. i think im just going to leave everything as is and hope MSI releases a bios update that allows undervolting, since all it lets you do now is add voltage. maybe ill have the balls to lapp the heatsink and cpu one of these days...tested it on our granite kitchen tables and both the heatsink AND cpu are concaved. couldnt figure out how to get the mount off the arctic freezer so i just stuck it back on instead of lapping it earlier.
 
The arctic cooler does a great job on single/dual cores. It sucks for quads though. So yea, it is a nice cooler, depending on what it's used on.
 
rls669 said:
If he doesn't want to spend money on a better heatsink then I fail to see how cooling the entire house would be financially sound.
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Without knowing the entire living position that's hard to say. However, yes, I agree, but I was simply pointing out that if a better HSF isn't an option, that this is really the only other choice.
 
jratzo said:
the thermalright ultra 120 extreme is fanless correct? If so do you add any extra fans to your case?
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No you buy a good 120mm fan and strap it onto it (clips come with it), it comes without a fan /= fanless.

You might be able to operate fanless with it on some of the older proc's or lower end core2duo's but really there's no point buying a thermalright ultra 120 extreme for them in that case, when other cheaper heatsinks would offer fanless operation e.g. the scythe ninja.
 
Don't bother with the Thermalright. If you want a cheap cooler that performs virtually identical to it, get the Tuniq Tower 120. It can be quiet with the fan turned down and it performs very well. I would get that. The Thermalright is the absolute best, but even for overclockers it can be quite hard to justify the price. Hope this helps!
 
As a frame of reference I have an Antec P182 case with 4 - 120mm Chassis Fans (I run on high), installed in an Asus P5K Deluxe MoBo I have a Q6600 Quad at stock speeds and I'm using the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro, my CPU temps don't exceed 43 C under load (Typically extended gaming sessions LOTRO, BioShock, Stalker) and idle at 35 C. I'm using the stock MX-1 (I believe) Compound between the cooler and my CPU, no lap etc.. all just install and go. Arctic pro's fan running at 100%, I also have a geforce 8800 GTS 640MB with stock cooling in the case. Here's a snap shot while I'm typing this;

Temperatures:
Motherboard 34 °C (93 °F)
CPU 27 °C (81 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 36 °C (97 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 34 °C (93 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 31 °C (88 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 34 °C (93 °F)
GPU 48 °C (118 °F)
GPU Diode 58 °C (136 °F)
GPU Ambient 42 °C (108 °F)
Seagate ST3250620AS 34 °C (93 °F)
Seagate ST3250620AS 31 °C (88 °F)

While not the king of the hill of coolers the Arctic Freezer pro is significantly better than the stock heatsink and should potentially lower your temperature's below 50 C, additional Case Ventilation can also help big time, good luck.
 
Seems high to me. Mine idles at 39°C at stock. I am using the Ninja Plus revB
 
chopsu said:
i dont wanna drop the pennies down on a 65 dollar thermalright 120 though :-/. i did some research before buying the arctic cooler though, it was supposed to be a decent cooler.
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You have to realize, though, that 'decent' for a dualie doesn't mean 'decent' for a quad. Especially a B3 stepping. My Big Typhoon worked fine on my e6600, but it just runs out of steam on my B3 quad - even with a 92cfm fan on it. The bottom line is, you get what you pay for.
If the $55 ultra extreme is too expensive, then the Tuniq Tower 120 or ultra 120 are good alternatives. They can be had for around $45. But you NEED one of these high end coolers if you're going to be OCing a quad.
 
GregP24 said:
You have to realize, though, that 'decent' for a dualie doesn't mean 'decent' for a quad. Especially a B3 stepping. My Big Typhoon worked fine on my e6600, but it just runs out of steam on my B3 quad - even with a 92cfm fan on it. The bottom line is, you get what you pay for.
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You are correct, you do get what you pay for and the Arctic Freezer Pro although significantly better than Stock is not near High End. It should however get you below 50 C at idle, arguably below 50 C underload as it does in mine. I will admit however that the 4 Case Fans I have and the excellent cross flow in the Antec P182 help the Arctic Freezer Pro for a few degree's C.

fun hobby :)
 
thing is...im not trying to OC. im running stock everything..i would totally undervolt if my motherboard gave me the capability. and as ive said before i have 5 case fans...lately its been alot cooler so my temps have dropped below 50C idle. actually hovering around 45-46C now with an ambient of prolly 20-23C
 
I have the same problem with a Q6600 step b3 as dissipator use a Thermalright IFX-14 and have high temperatures regarding old the houses.

speedfan 4.32 beta 15 : cpu 50° ide , cipset 45°,vga 75° :(

core temp 0.95 : ide : core1 55° , core2 57° , core3 50° , core4 52° :(

 
nek78 said:
I have the same problem with a Q6600 step b3 as dissipator use a Thermalright IFX-14 and have high temperatures regarding old the houses.

speedfan 4.32 beta 15 : cpu 50° ide , cipset 45°,vga 75° :(

core temp 0.95 : ide : core1 55° , core2 57° , core3 50° , core4 52° :(

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I see that you haven't installed the backside heatsink, you if don't, you must put something the same thick as the backside cooler to fill it's space in backplate or else you will have bad temps because backplate is loose. Another thing to inspect is the contact betwer cooler and processor. I had a IFX-14 and it had a very convex base.
 
Snarl said:
As a frame of reference I have an Antec P182 case with 4 - 120mm Chassis Fans (I run on high), installed in an Asus P5K Deluxe MoBo I have a Q6600 Quad at stock speeds and I'm using the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro, my CPU temps don't exceed 43 C under load (Typically extended gaming sessions LOTRO, BioShock, Stalker) and idle at 35 C. I'm using the stock MX-1 (I believe) Compound between the cooler and my CPU, no lap etc.. all just install and go. Arctic pro's fan running at 100%, I also have a geforce 8800 GTS 640MB with stock cooling in the case. Here's a snap shot while I'm typing this;

Temperatures:
Motherboard 34 °C (93 °F)
CPU 27 °C (81 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 36 °C (97 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 34 °C (93 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 31 °C (88 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 34 °C (93 °F)
GPU 48 °C (118 °F)
GPU Diode 58 °C (136 °F)
GPU Ambient 42 °C (108 °F)
Seagate ST3250620AS 34 °C (93 °F)
Seagate ST3250620AS 31 °C (88 °F)

While not the king of the hill of coolers the Arctic Freezer pro is significantly better than the stock heatsink and should potentially lower your temperature's below 50 C, additional Case Ventilation can also help big time, good luck.
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2 questions:

G0 or B3?

What are you using to measure those temps?
 
Snarl said:
As a frame of reference I have an Antec P182 case with 4 - 120mm Chassis Fans (I run on high), installed in an Asus P5K Deluxe MoBo I have a Q6600 Quad at stock speeds and I'm using the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro, my CPU temps don't exceed 43 C under load (Typically extended gaming sessions LOTRO, BioShock, Stalker) and idle at 35 C. I'm using the stock MX-1 (I believe) Compound between the cooler and my CPU, no lap etc.. all just install and go. Arctic pro's fan running at 100%, I also have a geforce 8800 GTS 640MB with stock cooling in the case. Here's a snap shot while I'm typing this;

Temperatures:
Motherboard 34 °C (93 °F)
CPU 27 °C (81 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 36 °C (97 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 34 °C (93 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 31 °C (88 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 34 °C (93 °F)
GPU 48 °C (118 °F)
GPU Diode 58 °C (136 °F)
GPU Ambient 42 °C (108 °F)
Seagate ST3250620AS 34 °C (93 °F)
Seagate ST3250620AS 31 °C (88 °F)

While not the king of the hill of coolers the Arctic Freezer pro is significantly better than the stock heatsink and should potentially lower your temperature's below 50 C, additional Case Ventilation can also help big time, good luck.
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Just curious where all of your fans are located...I have a p180p (rev 1.1) and am still trying to figure out the best fan configuration for good airflow in this case...
 
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