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Here’s a story you don’t often hear about in the mainstream media; a young man was shot in the chest attempting to foil a robbery last week when he tackled two armed gunmen. What makes the story even more compelling is that he is a hardcore video gamer. The news story mentions in passing that "His MySpace website talks about his love for metal music and computer games." While his heroics were not credited to playing video games, you can be sure that if he was one of the robbers, his “love for video games” would have been the blame. We wish Adam a speedy recovery. Thanks to hity645 for the linkage.

Brave Adam Mapleson, 24, was gunned down as he raced to help a terrified woman security guard. Fellow commuters watched in horror as two gun thugs — who had held up the woman as she loaded a cashpoint machine — shot the IT consultant outside his local rail station.
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Someone forward this to Jack. :p

He would stay silent I bet.
 
Thanks for putting this on the front page Steve. These are the things that people need to see, not all that Jack Thompson and violent videogame bull.
 
oh, and I just wanted to add: This guy must have balls of solid rock taking on two armed robbers.
 
ah, no edit :rolleyes:


...great story. Dumb kid though, but hero's aren't usually thinking when they act, which is what allows them to save lives, etc.
 
Heroic, but I really don't think it was the right course of action, if he hadn't tried to tackle them its likely nobody would have been hurt. I'm just glad he wasn't killed and I hope they catch the bastards that did this.
 
Actually what he did was pretty stupid. They were armed he was not, and him getting shot was predictable. In that type of situation you always let them take the money. The money is insured, people are not. Leave crime fighting to the cops.
 
Well, it is nice to know who is who when the chips are down. That is what made him a hero and everyone else "waiting for the cops to do something..." a bystander.

A woman is getting robbed (someone's wife, mother, grandmother, sister or daughter)...she could have been killed by the same people that shot him without a second thought. Had he not acted, they could have shot her as they fled.

As always, had this been you or your loved one, you'd want a hero there and not a bunch of weak ass bystanders. If it were you that were robbed...you'd call him a hero too...not "stupid". :(
 
The new police report questionnaire?

1) Name
2) Age
3) Gender
4) Occupation
5) Plays video games?
 
You could still blame video games for making him believe that he can take on two armed men with his bare hands. That's not brave, that's stupid.

What would have made for a good story is if he was allowed to carry a concealed handgun and subdued both of the robbers that way... :eek:
 
Steve said:
Well, it is nice to know who is who when the chips are down. That is what made him a hero and everyone else "waiting for the cops to do something..." a bystander.

A woman is getting robbed (someone's wife, mother, grandmother, sister or daughter)...she could have been killed by the same people that shot him without a second thought. Had he not acted, they could have shot her as they fled.

As always, had this been you or your loved one, you'd want a hero there and not a bunch of weak ass bystanders. If it were you that were robbed...you'd call him a hero too...not "stupid". :(
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Err... no. When a robbery is in progress, you want everyone to comply, quickly and quietly, and let them leave. If you don't give them a reason to shoot someone, they're not going to. All the woman had to do was lay down and let them take what they want. It's only money; money is replaceable, lives are not.

I'd want someone who thinks rationally and would come to that same conclusion, not rush in like an idiot and risk escalating the situation to violence.
 
rhouck said:
... not rush in like an idiot and risk escalating the situation to violence.
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LOL!!! I think the two robbers with HANDGUNS escalated the situation to "violence".

Anyhow, I think we need a LOT more of that guy and a lot less people willing to stand around like sheep while others are getting robbed.

Just my $0.02 of course.
 
Steve said:
LOL!!! I think the two robbers with HANDGUNS escalated the situation to "violence".

Anyhow, I think we need a LOT more of that guy and a lot less people willing to stand around like sheep while others are getting robbed.

Just my $0.02 of course.
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I disagree. Robbers escalate the situation to robbery. If you confront them unprepared, you risk angering them more and having them shoot people that wouldn't have been shot.
 
Cyrilix said:
I disagree. Robbers escalate the situation to robbery. If you confront them unprepared, you risk angering them more and having them shoot people that wouldn't have been shot.
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:rolleyes:

I just hate this argument beyond belief.
 
Cyrilix said:
I disagree. Robbers escalate the situation to robbery. If you confront them unprepared, you risk angering them more and having them shoot people that wouldn't have been shot.
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Why do people comply in that situation? Easy. Imminent threat of violence. The threat of violence carries with it the implication that it will be carried out. That in itself is violence. If no one were to take a stand, then ultimate power would lie with the stranger holding a gun on you. It would be their choice, and their choice alone, to murder you, everyone, or no one.

The true hero is the one who takes that choice away. The cops are a cleanup crew, not a preventative measure. Otherwise, why would the armed robbery happen in the first place?
 
Cyrilix said:
I disagree. Robbers escalate the situation to robbery. If you confront them unprepared, you risk angering them more and having them shoot people that wouldn't have been shot.
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Apparently I didn't read #3 in the robbers handbook that says the never shoot people that comply.

Oh well, I stand by my belief that more people should be heros and less should be bystanders. I know the type person I want to be and the type of people I want to be surrounded by.
 
If you own a weapon designed to kill, you've already come to terms that you will end up killing someone, or something. Why you end up killing them is irrelevant. You've already subconsciously decided that at some point, blood is going to be on your hands. The 'collector' excuse stops when you have the right ammo for it.
 
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with heroes, just saying that there's a logical limit where you can distinguish heroism and foolishness.
 
:eek: How could this happen in the UK, guns are virtually illegal there... :rolleyes:


Replicant1911 said:
Too bad he didnt have a concealed carry permit.....
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Agreed 1000 fold.


Cyrilix said:
I disagree. Robbers escalate the situation to robbery. If you confront them unprepared, you risk angering them more and having them shoot people that wouldn't have been shot.
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Sheep who think like you give the scumbags reason, helpless victims are little more than prey and make life more dangerous for the rest of us and our loved ones. It really is a shame there are so many of your ilk around who refuse to offer any resistance. :(
 
firtol88 said:
:eek: How could this happen in the UK, guns are virtually illegal there... :rolleyes:




Agreed 1000 fold.




Sheep who think like you give the scumbags reason, helpless victims are little more than prey and make life more dangerous for the rest of us and our loved ones. It really is a shame there are so many of your ilk around who refuse to offer any resistance. :(
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See the post right above yours.
 
Boy: The Thesselonian you're fighting... He's the biggest man I've ever seen. I wouldn't want to fight him.
Achilles: Thats why no one will remember your name.
 
Thanks for bringing this story to our attention. While the gaming angle is weak at best, this is a young man who made one of the most difficult decisions any man (or person) can make: putting yourself in harms way for a stranger.

To those of you who wrote that you would not make this decision, or chide him for it for taking such a risk, you now know what it means to be heroic: to actually be a hero and not pretend to be one on a glowing screen, safe in your home.

I wish him well, and request a follow up to this story as to the apprehension of the suspects and this young man's prognosis for the future.
 
Steve said:
Well, it is nice to know who is who when the chips are down. That is what made him a hero and everyone else "waiting for the cops to do something..." a bystander.

A woman is getting robbed (someone's wife, mother, grandmother, sister or daughter)...she could have been killed by the same people that shot him without a second thought. Had he not acted, they could have shot her as they fled.

As always, had this been you or your loved one, you'd want a hero there and not a bunch of weak ass bystanders. If it were you that were robbed...you'd call him a hero too...not "stupid". :(
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Couldn't agree more. I hate bystanders.

GJSNeptune said:
The new police report questionnaire?

1) Name
2) Age
3) Gender
4) Occupation
5) Plays video games?
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LOL!

Aelfgeft said:
Why do people comply in that situation? Easy. Imminent threat of violence. The threat of violence carries with it the implication that it will be carried out. That in itself is violence. If no one were to take a stand, then ultimate power would lie with the stranger holding a gun on you. It would be their choice, and their choice alone, to murder you, everyone, or no one.

The true hero is the one who takes that choice away. The cops are a cleanup crew, not a preventative measure. Otherwise, why would the armed robbery happen in the first place?
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I couldn't agree more. If no one complied with robberies, I can gurantee you that they would be far less than they are now. As a socieity we are taught to give into the criminal demands and do what they say... but still up until today, I keep seeing videos of people being shot becuase they simply were a material witness.


Steve said:
Apparently I didn't read #3 in the robbers handbook that says the never shoot people that comply.

Oh well, I stand by my belief that more people should be heros and less should be bystanders. I know the type person I want to be and the type of people I want to be surrounded by.
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Criminals has no feelings, they go in there with the intention to shoot if needed. Sometimes they enter premeditated. If they are going to shoot, then they are going to shoot. So I'd rather have somoen who tried, but died than give into these scumbags.

I agree. If we had less by standers, we would have less robberies such as this as criminals would know that no one is going to give in.
 
I really don't understand how stupidity makes someone a hero.

Brave? Yes. Stupid? Yes. Hero? No.

There's a reason nearly every law enforment agency in the world will tell you just to stay calm in a situation like this. People who want to be heros get people killed. The robber could have easily shot any innocent bystander accidently because this idiot decides he wants to be a hero.

As far as I'm concerned all the people with hero complexs can stay the hell away from me. I'll stick with giving the police an accurate description.
 
I just wanted to say that perhaps he did make a wrong move, but I am appalled how people here seems to call him stupid, foolish, dumb, etc... he actually tried to make a difference to a stranger. Perhaps you should ask yourself, what have you done today?

Also, keep in mind, it wasn't him who fired the shots, it was those scumbags who did... so stop blaming the victim.
 
Ockie said:
I just wanted to say that perhaps he did make a wrong move, but I am appalled how people here seems to call him stupid, foolish, dumb, etc... he actually tried to make a difference to a stranger. Perhaps you should ask yourself, what have you done today?

Also, keep in mind, it wasn't him who fired the shots, it was those scumbags who did... so stop blaming the victim.
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I agree! Let's not use accurate descriptions, they're not politically correct. The fact remains he greatly increased the danger to a large crowd of people for no reason.
 
Wingnut420 said:
Thanks for bringing this story to our attention. While the gaming angle is weak at best, this is a young man who made one of the most difficult decisions any man (or person) can make: putting yourself in harms way for a stranger.

To those of you who wrote that you would not make this decision, or chide him for it for taking such a risk, you now know what it means to be heroic: to actually be a hero and not pretend to be one on a glowing screen, safe in your home.

I wish him well, and request a follow up to this story as to the apprehension of the suspects and this young man's prognosis for the future.
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I do not intend to win this argument with any of you guys -- for many, it is sensational. We all admire bravery, so it is difficult to side with the person that is criticizing bravery. It also stings that I get insults from a great many of you, however, I don't intend to reply with an insult -- rather, an argument can best be solved with reason.

To me, a hero is a person that utilizes bravery and puts himself in harm's way, knowing that he can make a difference because he has thought things out. A hero is not suicidal -- if you live, you can make a difference, if you do something foolish and die, then your bravery cannot be used elsewhere where it can make a difference.

Also, last comment to Wingnut420: I do not pretend to be a hero on a glowing screen. Quite simply, I am not a hero. I hope that is enough to reconcile you that I'm not putting on a false appearance.
 
A lot of "experts" have said that criminals carrying guns rarely intend to use them beyond flashing them around. Makes sense to me. I bet a lot of the guns aren't even real. There's no absolute profile here. I can't say criminals don't want to shoot, and you can't say they do. Aside from that, bystanders have no idea what the criminal intends or will do if they "snap" when the situation escalates.

Hero or not, he was shot, hospitalized, and only added charges against the shooter(s). Ultimately, they're going to jail for longer, and that counts for something.
 
someone should have told him its not cs and he won't re spawn when he dies!:rolleyes:
 
rhouck said:
Err... no. When a robbery is in progress, you want everyone to comply, quickly and quietly, and let them leave. If you don't give them a reason to shoot someone, they're not going to. All the woman had to do was lay down and let them take what they want. It's only money; money is replaceable, lives are not.

I'd want someone who thinks rationally and would come to that same conclusion, not rush in like an idiot and risk escalating the situation to violence.
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actually, no. Defending yourself with a firearm has the lowest chance of injury to yourself, at about 19% whereas complying has about a 40% chance of somoene getting injured. IIRC.
 
SamuraiInBlack said:
If you own a weapon designed to kill, you've already come to terms that you will end up killing someone, or something. Why you end up killing them is irrelevant. You've already subconsciously decided that at some point, blood is going to be on your hands. The 'collector' excuse stops when you have the right ammo for it.
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total and complete and utter bullshit of the worst kind.
 
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