Vista Business back to XP

Well ladies and gents, back to XP it is for me. Just to much right now that I can't do with Vista that I can do on XP. I have some critical business applications I can't run on my laptop becuase they won't work on Vista. My digital camera (which I need when I go to job sites) won't work on Vista. I can't find a driver for it. The User Account Control messages at first weren't annoying, but now they just piss me off. Every time I try and use a program that Vista doesn't recognize I have to click "Allow or Cancel".

I knew all of this going into Vista, but it has just gotten to me. If all my applications and camera worked, it would be one thing. It's annoying having to find an XP PC to plug my camera into and etc. Also, my touch pointer on my laptop just wigs out from time to time. This never happend while on XP so one can only assume that it's a Vista issue. When I go back to XP I'll know for sure if it was vista messing up my pointer. My laptop is new so I'm hoping it's not the touch pad.

So, back to XP for now.

Anyone else switch back to XP?

I think your other issues outweigh this but you can turn off User Account Control.

thanks for letting us know all that. i will sleep better at night knowing that your camera works now.

BioPort said:

thanks for letting us know all that. i will sleep better at night knowing that your camera works now.

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Why would a camera not work in Vista, unless it uses some proprietary storage method? I'm still lost on drivers for the camera. I've owned 6 digital cameras, and have never loaded a driver. You plug it in, and pull the images off, exactly as you would a USB thumb drive. If it's just a few proprietary apps that don't work, VirtualPC 2007 offers an easy fix for that.

djnes said:

Why would a camera not work in Vista, unless it uses some proprietary storage method? I'm still lost on drivers for the camera. I've owned 6 digital cameras, and have never loaded a driver. You plug it in, and pull the images off, exactly as you would a USB thumb drive. If it's just a few proprietary apps that don't work, VirtualPC 2007 offers an easy fix for that.

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I have a Sony Camera, and for some reason it needs drivers. Never had to load drivers in XP or Win2K. I've searched for drivers and can't seem to find one that works...

[BB] Rick James;1030685078 said:

I have a Sony Camera, and for some reason it needs drivers. Never had to load drivers in XP or Win2K. I've searched for drivers and can't seem to find one that works...

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I've run into this with sony cameras too. All other cameras seem to work fine, except a few odd ball sony ones.

I've been saying all along that vista is bad for business environments, and they should avoid it for another year or so. This on top of the fact that I can't see a legitimate need for vista in the workplace.

Uhmmm... if there's no driver for a particular device, that's not Vista's fault, for the umpteenth freakin' time...

If you don't have hardware support for a device in Vista, contact the manufacturer and rant about it. You're a customer, so demand it, even.

And this goes for the applications also; if they don't work in Vista, it's not Vista's fault. Contact the manufacturer and see about an update that ensures Vista compatibility or whatnot.

Nothing he said prompts me to even consider laying any blame on Vista itself in any way, shape, or form.

bbz_Ghost said:

Uhmmm... if there's no driver for a particular device, that's not Vista's fault, for the umpteenth freakin' time...

If you don't have hardware support for a device in Vista, contact the manufacturer and rant about it. You're a customer, so demand it, even.

And this goes for the applications also; if they don't work in Vista, it's not Vista's fault. Contact the manufacturer and see about an update that ensures Vista compatibility or whatnot.

Nothing he said prompts me to even consider laying any blame on Vista itself in any way, shape, or form.

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you're absolutely correct; it is not the fault of vista.

however, it is a significant barrier to running the operating system regardless of who's fault it is.

All I can offer up is 4 words:

Things are different now.

XP was then, Vista is now, and that's where things are going. I know it's a complete bitch to some people and I also understand the need to figure out the who/what/when/where/why, but these kinds of posts just point a big huge finger at Vista and say "You suck."

I've owned 16 digital cameras in the past 5 years, 4 of them were Sony models, from the old Mavica floppy edition through a Cybershot, and I've never encountered one from any company that required any type of driver whatsoever, so, if his situation is different, instead of just saying "I'm going back to XP" perhaps a thorough search of Sony's support site might offer some useful info - and maybe even the so-called driver if they have one available.

If not, the least someone could do is write an email and ask, "Are you planning to support <insert OS here>?" and find out for sure. Either it's yes and you continue using their products, or it's no and you might consider looking elsewhere - just a suggestion and a possibility in one.

The application software would probably be a much more difficult thing at this point, especially if it's propietary and the provider just doesn't feel Vista is worth the coding effort, etc. It's happening already from various companies with proprietary software and even some with proprietary hardware too.

As djnes said (dammit, beat me to it again) VirtualPC 2007 is always an option - it would allow someone to use Vista as the host OS and install XP in a VM - if the OP has a relatively new laptop, it's probably got VXt virtualization support that would let him run XP literally full speed either fullscreen or even in a window on the Desktop and provide every single thing he apparently requires. VirtualPC 2007 is free, also.

Just options...

bbz_Ghost said:

Uhmmm... if there's no driver for a particular device, that's not Vista's fault, for the umpteenth freakin' time...

If you don't have hardware support for a device in Vista, contact the manufacturer and rant about it. You're a customer, so demand it, even.

And this goes for the applications also; if they don't work in Vista, it's not Vista's fault. Contact the manufacturer and see about an update that ensures Vista compatibility or whatnot.

Nothing he said prompts me to even consider laying any blame on Vista itself in any way, shape, or form.

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I don't recall stating that I blamed vista. Simply stating that for what I use the PC for, I'm not vista ready yet. I can't change how the applications that I use handle Vista; so back to XP.

Just wondering how many others have found this and switched back for the time being. I'm a little irrated with some of it's features, but that's all.

So the VirtualPC 2007 solution is still a valid one for you and many others. Sure, it's not the solution most people want, but it lets them do the things they need to do while continuing to be able to use Vista and learn more about it. You paid for it and you "bought" it, why not use it. On a Core Duo or even better a Core 2 Duo laptop man, VPC2007 will fly...

Who knows, you might get lucky and magically find support from Sony if it's really necessary and the other software too. I've seen stranger things happen... like Macs running Windows... Microsoft investing in Apple... Britney Spears bald...

JUST KIDDING...

just get a memory card reader...they're faster than going straight from the camera anyhow.

Yeah Sony cams do need drivers unless you swtich your camera to pict bridge then they work but you can manage any of the pics on the camera.

I have encountered this problem on sony cameras. Even swapping pictures from 1 computer to another. Sony it seems does some type of encryption deal on the memory of the camera so that it only works on the original PC you plug it into. I know it sounds off but try using a new stick of memory in the camera then plug it into vista and see if it works before you format.

XOR != OR said:

I've run into this with sony cameras too. All other cameras seem to work fine, except a few odd ball sony ones.

I've been saying all along that vista is bad for business environments, and they should avoid it for another year or so. This on top of the fact that I can't see a legitimate need for vista in the workplace.

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I disagree. I have to turn 47 users loose with laptops. In XP you can't setup wireless unless you're admin. Not so in Vista. They're using mac laptops solely because of this. I've finished testing, and all our critical apps and hardware work. The hardware refresh next moth will be cheap Dell laptops with Vista business.

On the sony cameras: Easy Share is junk. Change the driver to be a standard camera, and it works like every other in Windows.