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I just got a Asus P5W DH. My question is, when are the cheaper, consumer targetted quad core processors supposed to be released? Reason im asking this, im deciding either if I should wait to they are released or buy a e6600 now. If they are going to be released by next Spring ill wait. If its not going to be until next summer or so, im buying the e6600.
 
Lazy_Moron said:
I just got a Asus P5W DH. My question is, when are the cheaper, consumer targetted quad core processors supposed to be released? Reason im asking this, im deciding either if I should wait to they are released or buy a e6600 now. If they are going to be released by next Spring ill wait. If its not going to be until next summer or so, im buying the e6600.
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Buy a 6300 (or 6400 since you have a 975 mobo) now and overclock it, so you don't have to worry about waiting. Its cheaper so its not as big of an investment to hold out for. I don't think I've heard an official release date. I think the rumor mill said something like Apr-May '07. But it could be bumped up if Intel feels any pressure from AMD's 4x4 FX72/FX70's. (doubtful)
 
The QX6700 is a consumer product. You mean for the performance and mainstream segment? Q1'07.
 
Do you do a lot of rendering? If not, there is no practical use for quad cores for the near future. Other than the existing Maya, 3DS Max, LightWave etc., there will be no multi threaded applications to take advantage of such a core for a MINIMUM of 1 year and more likely 2 years.

Save your money til there is actually some value other than bragging rights or, send me that cash burning a hole in your pocket and I will email you every day telling you how wise, intelligent and far sighted you are. Now thats a value! :)
 
Magnus said:
Do you do a lot of rendering? If not, there is no practical use for quad cores for the near future. Other than the existing Maya, 3DS Max, LightWave etc., there will be no multi threaded applications to take advantage of such a core for a MINIMUM of 1 year and more likely 2 years.

Save your money til there is actually some value other than bragging rights or, send me that cash burning a hole in your pocket and I will email you every day telling you how wise, intelligent and far sighted you are. Now thats a value! :)
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Audio and video encoding/transcoding apps benefit greatly as well, so if you do a lot of DVD backups or move a lot of video to formats for an iPod or similar source, it makes sense as well, as for people who do a lot of CD to MP3->Ogg->etc.
 
NulloModo said:
Audio and video encoding/transcoding apps benefit greatly as well, so if you do a lot of DVD backups or move a lot of video to formats for an iPod or similar source, it makes sense as well, as for people who do a lot of CD to MP3->Ogg->etc.
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Define a lot. As in operating a business? Spending a minimum of twice as much to shave seconds off of transfers versus a core duo? Just my opinion but, as much as I like new shinies, there is no value in buying a quad core in the next year to two years.
 
the 965 is a better chipset than the 975 FYI. Also, the Quad Core has a performance DISADVANTAGE in games due to complete bottleneck by the FSB.
 
Endurancevm said:
the 965 is a better chipset than the 975 FYI. Also, the Quad Core has a performance DISADVANTAGE in games due to complete bottleneck by the FSB.
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I have heard for the 2MB cache Conroe derivatives that the P965 series is the way to go if your overclocking, and for the 4MB varaints that the 975x Series is the way to go.

Regarding the Quad Core vs Dual Core in games issue, if were talking about Intel, the QX6700 will perform identically, in games as the E6700 would, as most games are still single threaded, and only a handful of games can take advantage of Dual Core, not game I am aware of that is currently shipping can take advantage of Quad Cores though.
 
coldpower27 said:
Regarding the Quad Core vs Dual Core in games issue, if were talking about Intel, the QX6700 will perform identically, in games as the E6700 would, as most games are still single threaded, and only a handful of games can take advantage of Dual Core, not game I am aware of that is currently shipping can take advantage of Quad Cores though.
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You sure they perform identically?


http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTIxMyw4LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
 
You can have plenty of fun with the E6300 and get a QC later. That's what I'm doing. The ABIT AW9D or MAX is the best 975 board out there right now.
 
Magnus said:
Define a lot. As in operating a business? Spending a minimum of twice as much to shave seconds off of transfers versus a core duo? Just my opinion but, as much as I like new shinies, there is no value in buying a quad core in the next year to two years.
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Well we might as well go to AMD then right? Since it is also just seconds. You can make an argument up and down the product list, the fact of the matter is he wants quad-core and is willing to spend a certain amount of money. If you use just one program that uses at least two threads quad-core is worth it since you open up an avenue for another process.
 
Endurancevm said:
You sure they perform identically?


http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTIxMyw4LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
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Well, from what I can gather at equivalent clockspeeds, the difference between the QX6700 and the E6700 is usally around 2-3%, slightly deterimental as there is some additonal overhead of managing 4 Cores on 2 Dice through the FSB. Perfectly identical in performance wouldn't be true, but very closely.

Here is a link which provides a direct comparison between the QX6700 and the E6700 as well as a simulated Q6600 vs the E6600.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2866&p=15
 
Im getting a 975x because of Crossfire support. I plan on getting another X1900XT and run Crossfire over it. Keep your opnions about Crossfire to yourself but thats what im doing.
 
Magnus said:
Define a lot. As in operating a business? Spending a minimum of twice as much to shave seconds off of transfers versus a core duo? Just my opinion but, as much as I like new shinies, there is no value in buying a quad core in the next year to two years.
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A lot as in around a 30% improvement in video encoding and a 40% improvement in audio encoding as shown by the [H] review of the chip. If you are running a business, that would seem more than worth it, and if you are a home user who just doesn't like to wait, also worth it.
 
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