Conroe issues (temp)

Saxman924

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I'm in bios and my temp is reading 55 degrees C. This is HIGH! At first my computer was shutting off because of cpu overheating. I put some extra thermal paste on the stock cooler cause the heatsink didnt come with a lot of it in my opinion. The computer isnt overheating anymore but the temp still says aroundd 55 in the bios. I took the hs off again and it looks like the paste has good coverage. IT does however look like I could put on some more.

I'll let [H] decide.
 
From what I gather from your post your heatsink came with a thermal pad on it and you added thermal paste to it. That is bad. If that is what you did, you should clean it all off and only apply a small bit of thermal paste. Pads and paste are not meant to be used together.
 
i think your hsf is not in properly, also what is the voltage of your cpu?


I have my E6600 but i still have no mobo , what am i going to do?
 
Well there was paste on the cpu. It definitely wasnt a pad. I mean it smeared like paste the first time I took it off. Plus I only added a tiny amount. I dont have much exp with this stuff so if someone would tell me what to do with the paste I have now that would be great.
 
Arctic Silver's website should be helpful for you. They usually recommend a rice/bb sized dot in the middle of the heat spreader. It may seem unusual for such a small amount, but the purpose is to fill in any microscopic holes/valleys that prevent the heatsink and the cpu's heat spreader from making "perfect contact."

All that aside, the best method I've found over the years? The baggy. A small dot and then I dab ever so slightly for 30 seconds or so, spreading the paste out evenly on the chip's heat spreader. It's given me the lowest temps of any method...and I need em! P4 Prescott!!
 
There is this other thing it takes about a month for the paste to really dry up and show proper results but that will only make about 5-9c difference.
 
nooh said:
There is this other thing it takes about a month for the paste to really dry up and show proper results but that will only make about 5-9c difference.

Umm...thats a huge difference. It might make 1C, or if you're lucky, 2C difference.
 
Alright, I dont have any rubbing alcohol or nail polish remover. Can I use hydrogen peroxide to clean it off? Is there anything else I could use if that wont work?
 
Go to CVS, pick up a tiny bottle of nail polish remover. It's like $0.99. Let it sit on the thermal crap and wipe it off with paper towel. Rinse and repeat til it's clean.

Don't be lazy. Go to CVS!
 
Just what you want - lots of dried silicates on the thermal contact! Don't you have any rubbing alchohol?
 
Alright I did the prescribed method on the arctic silver website and the CPU temp rose to 70 degrees C. What is wrong with it!?@
 
I'm 99% positive you are using to much thermal paste, or you are for some other reason not getting a good contact between the HS and the thermal plate. Take pics if you can.

As long as the CPU fan is working, the HSF prolly is not the issue. Its hard for a solid piece of copper to "malfunction."
 
talk2farley said:
I'm 99% positive you are using to much thermal paste, or you are for some other reason not getting a good contact between the HS and the thermal plate. Take pics if you can.

As long as the CPU fan is working, the HSF prolly is not the issue. Its hard for a solid piece of copper to "malfunction."

Definitely not too much. There is barely any now.
 
Man this is frustrating. I am using the cermatique arctioce silver crap and I followed the directions exactly. WTH is wrong with this? Plus I found out that one of my sticks of ram is bad so I have to RMA that. Man, what a bad day.
 
You definitely shouldn't have just "added more" to the stock stuff. Wipe all of it off, clean it really good, then use just a little dot of Artic Silver in the middle (as others have said) and remount the HSF.
 
Start from scratch... Take a coffee filter, cotton pad, kitchen towel and soak it in 70% or higher alcohol (just a corner now).

Clean off the paste from the core IHS, and the bottom of the HSF... Make it all clean and shiny.

Now add a dab of AS5 in the middle of the processor... about the size of a GRAIN OF UNCOOKED RICE. Place the HSF unit on properly, make sure it's clipped in right. After it's on, rotate it back and forth about 1-2'c with your computer turned on. This will thin out the paste.

Check your temps. If you're having a problem (and a sensor isn't saying like 70'c again) run superPi and feel the part of your HSF unit closest (as close as you can get) to the CPU. Is it warm? Good. Is it hot? Awesome. Is it cold? hmmmm problem.
 
Okay I redid it for the 2nd time. I think there is an issue with the thermometer on the board. It says the system temp is 42 degrees. This can't be right! I'm just in bios for crying out loud. Ive got the cpu temp back to 60.
 
Maybe, 42 for a system temp is kind of high. But I guess it is POSSIBLE, if you have really poor circulation.
 
ok somehow I have the system temp to 34 now when I closed the case and the cpu is hovering around 55. Man this is annoying. I have been having a lot of issues witht the hsf mounting. The plastic is so cheap. I may end up getting an arctice freezer 64 from newegg.
 
34 is a reasonable temp for the air inside a case. I think the issue is with the HSF on the CPU, not the thermometers. Sorry I know how irritating this crap can be when youve been dealing with it all day :|
 
Yeah it is irritating. And I feel for anyone who has been through this stuff.

okay so I figured out that if I press down on the hsf really hard the temp will go down to 47 withought the case on. The hsf is the issue. POS intel. Man I really am liking amd even if this chip is supposed to be so much better.
 
Then it is just the connections. You need to make sure to tighten them down as much as possible. There shouldnt be any gaps between the plates, and no gaps between the connectors and the board.
 
That's the thing though. That sucker is on there. No gaps. I am just lost as for what to do.
 
i noticed in the entire thread that you didn't mention what your motherboard was, that might help us on whether its the actual IHS on the cpu or the board's sensors.
 
hmm i thought i was a asus board since they had this type of problem.

did you update the bios? F3 is the one most people use don't know if it'll fix your problem.
 
aiya said:
hmm i thought i was a asus board since they had this type of problem.

did you update the bios? F3 is the one most people use don't know if it'll fix your problem.

Updating now...
 
Well I downloaded the bios update and went into the flash utility but it didnt work. I have no idea what is wrong with this. I hit update bios and it goes to a load screen and I press enter. Then it comes up with a warning saying do not reset or power off. That disappeers after 1 sec and then nothing else. I then restart and it still says F2!!!!!!!! It should be f3!
 
manually flash it then with a bootable floppy or cd ..or redownload the bios incase your initial one got corrupted somehow ..

what is your fan layout in your case? .. what size case ..psu's fans ..and rest of your comp specs ..?



[F]old|[H]ard
 
Saxman924 said:
Well I downloaded the bios update and went into the flash utility but it didnt work. I have no idea what is wrong with this. I hit update bios and it goes to a load screen and I press enter. Then it comes up with a warning saying do not reset or power off. That disappeers after 1 sec and then nothing else. I then restart and it still says F2!!!!!!!! It should be f3!

Intel's stock cooler isn't great but now way is it that bad. I've heard that folks have had problems mounting it correct, no fault of their own. If pushing down on it improves or lowers the temp, that's a clear sign that it is NOT mounted correctly.

I had this happen with my current 3500+ and Zalman CNPS 7000cu. Though the heatsink sat flush, it didn't tighten down with enough force. So I went back to the stock heatsink and the temps dropped 5C at idle and load was a cooler by 6C.

All processors for about the last 8 years run hot in the BIOS because they use Cool Down software/firmware that works only in Windows. Do what you need to and get the hell out of the BIOS as soon as possible.
 
this sounds like 2 things: doesnt know how to apply thermal paste correctly, doesnt know how to properly put on hs/f

in before the picture that looks like it came out an apple service manual :p
 
Thanks guys for insulting my abilitites. This isn't my first build or anything. The hsf is on there. I have followed the directions exactly. I have good airflow in the case including a psu with a 120mm fan, a 120mm outtake case fan and a 80mm inttake fan. I don't see how the hsf could get on there any tighter with the mounting hardware. It just doesn't tighten anymore. The mounts are flush with the board.

I will try one more aplication of the thermal compund with the rubbing alcohol. If that doesn't work I don't know what will.
 
No insults bro. :D If you're really hurtin', just dap a dot of Ceramique on there and throw the sink on. Wiggle it to the right an left ever so slightly to confirm contact. THEN lift the sucker up and inspect the contact on the chip's IHS and the HSF themselves. Normally, if the HSF has paste in a square/rectangular (mirroring the chip's IHS) you're good. I ALWAYS do this cause it makes me feel better knowing it's perfect...or as good as this guy can muster anyway. If you got that down and the voltages look fine...the bios isn't wierd...then...well...then I don't know what to tell ya. 90% of the time we screw it up tho. So thank yourself for messing it up and know that you WON'T have to go through the love fest that is RMA...ugh...I shudder just thinkin' about it.
 
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