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pandora's box

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i beat the main quest for this game (no i didnt rush thru, completed 2 guild quests and about 30 mini quests as well as the main quest). i tried playing again from the beginning this time as a mage and the feeling i have is "meh". no replay value.

about half way thru my first time i got bored. most of the mini quests involve going into some dungeon/cave/ruin and either rescuing someone or obtaining an item. and the main quest is pretty much the same thing. go get xxx to do xxx so that we can do xxx. oh and dont forget to keep closing the 5 million oblivion gates while your at it. (they are all the same, just a different layout in each plane to oblivion, same goal everytime, remove the sigil stone and you win. most of the time you can just bypass all the enemies and run to the top of the tower and pull the stone)

game lacks depth imo. most of the npc's blabble on about how your the grand champion of the arena or something related to what youve just done. game is pretty much a hack and slash fps with a twist, now theres a "purpose" to killing all those imps and ogers.

was it worth the $50? No.

I give this game 7/10.
 
pandora's box said:
i beat the main quest for this game (no i didnt rush thru, completed 2 guild quests and about 30 mini quests as well as the main quest). i tried playing again from the beginning this time as a mage and the feeling i have is "meh". no replay value.

about half way thru my first time i got bored. most of the mini quests involve going into some dungeon/cave/ruin and either rescuing someone or obtaining an item. and the main quest is pretty much the same thing. go get xxx to do xxx so that we can do xxx. oh and dont forget to keep closing the 5 million oblivion gates while your at it. (they are all the same, just a different layout in each plane to oblivion, same goal everytime, remove the sigil stone and you win. most of the time you can just bypass all the enemies and run to the top of the tower and pull the stone)

game lacks depth imo. most of the npc's blabble on about how your the grand champion of the arena or something related to what youve just done. game is pretty much a hack and slash fps with a twist, now theres a "purpose" to killing all those imps and ogers.

was it worth the $50? No.

I give this game 7/10.
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Seems like 7/10 is a high score for not listing a single positive about the game.
 
Colonel Sanders said:
Seems like 7/10 is a high score for not listing a single positive about the game.
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graphics and sound made most of that score along with the storyline for the main quest. it is good and well thought out but again most of the time you end up hacking at imps etc.
 
pandora's box said:
graphics and sound made most of that score along with the storyline for the main quest. it is good and well thought out but again most of the time you end up hacking at imps etc.
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I'm just curious if you've ever played Daggerfall (TES II) and how you would have rated it.
 
Colonel Sanders said:
I'm just curious if you've ever played Daggerfall (TES II) and how you would have rated it.
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never played it. oblivion is my first game from the TES line.
 
RPG's never tend to have much replay value...

But there is a lot of depth in Oblivion if you paid attention to all its details and folklore.
 
Heck there is tons of replay value. The quests have been extremely varied so far. Maybe I am lucky but Bethesda have outdone themselves with the quests this time. The quests in Morrowind was never like that. One example head to Burma and enter bradons house and if that quest don´t impress you I don´t know what will :).

Also you have rushed through for sure hardly played oblivion if you only made 2 guild quests and a bit other. Oblivion has over 200h of gameplay if you would want :)

I will probably try to make it all with my new character. Don´t know if I want to become weak again...
 
pandora's box said:
i beat the main quest for this game (no i didnt rush thru, completed 2 guild quests and about 30 mini quests as well as the main quest). i tried playing again from the beginning this time as a mage and the feeling i have is "meh". no replay value.

about half way thru my first time i got bored. most of the mini quests involve going into some dungeon/cave/ruin and either rescuing someone or obtaining an item. and the main quest is pretty much the same thing. go get xxx to do xxx so that we can do xxx. oh and dont forget to keep closing the 5 million oblivion gates while your at it. (they are all the same, just a different layout in each plane to oblivion, same goal everytime, remove the sigil stone and you win. most of the time you can just bypass all the enemies and run to the top of the tower and pull the stone)

game lacks depth imo. most of the npc's blabble on about how your the grand champion of the arena or something related to what youve just done. game is pretty much a hack and slash fps with a twist, now theres a "purpose" to killing all those imps and ogers.

was it worth the $50? No.

I give this game 7/10.
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All that is pretty much exactly what i said in my 'finished oblivion' thead lol. The game is just so dry and lifeless. The quests for each guild and side quests are fine but theres no point or story to them, they're just 'go here, kill this, find this, come back' repeat etc.

They made the game open at the expense of an in-depth story which is a shame.
 
ZOMGWTFBBQ said:
All that is pretty much exactly what i said in my 'finished oblivion' thead lol. The game is just so dry and lifeless. The quests for each guild and side quests are fine but theres no point or story to them, they're just 'go here, kill this, find this, come back' repeat etc.

They made the game open at the expense of an in-depth story which is a shame.
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exactly. and after your done with the main quest, what the hell are you supposed to do? there is nothing to do!
 
And if they would have made it linear and focused with a great story line but only 20 hours of gameplay, people would be complainning about how they wished that they could walk out into the woods and do they're own thing for a while, and how much of shame it is that they can't do other quests other than that of the main story line. :rolleyes:
 
I look at this game in a way that I wanted to view the game Fable.

The only difference is I can't fuck and I can't get married. I can do pretty much everything else, though.

I'm only 8 hours into this game and have hardly done anything worth mentioning. I can't wait to get some kick ass gear....but I do fear the worst of times with the level of difficulty vs. advancement. It seems it's pretty steap without some upgrades to the armor/weapons.
 
theres only replay value if you want to make 4 differnt classes to not get you ass handed to you, such as a deticated warrior, deticated mage, thief, assasin, mixing any classes seems to severly cripple you in the game(as well and raiseing any attribute not relateing to combat)
 
The beauty of the Elder Scrolls games has always been in the huge world to explore. Finding hidden caves to hunt for your next awesome piece of gear or wiping out a whole town so you can use it's buildings as your own museum and library are what it's all about. Mastering the alchemy and enchanting skills so you can come up with clever new ways of destroying your enemies is very satisfying too. If you just ran through the main quest then you didn't even scratch the surface.

Unfortunately, the completely inane enemy-level-and-gear-scaling system in Oblivion really destroys a lot of that appeal. I would suggest playing Morrowind instead, you might like it better.
 
pandora's box said:
i beat the main quest for this game (no i didnt rush thru, completed 2 guild quests and about 30 mini quests as well as the main quest). i tried playing again from the beginning this time as a mage and the feeling i have is "meh". no replay value.

about half way thru my first time i got bored. most of the mini quests involve going into some dungeon/cave/ruin and either rescuing someone or obtaining an item. and the main quest is pretty much the same thing. go get xxx to do xxx so that we can do xxx. oh and dont forget to keep closing the 5 million oblivion gates while your at it. (they are all the same, just a different layout in each plane to oblivion, same goal everytime, remove the sigil stone and you win. most of the time you can just bypass all the enemies and run to the top of the tower and pull the stone)

game lacks depth imo. most of the npc's blabble on about how your the grand champion of the arena or something related to what youve just done. game is pretty much a hack and slash fps with a twist, now theres a "purpose" to killing all those imps and ogers.

was it worth the $50? No.

I give this game 7/10.
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Wait a second... so you played through the game, probably got about 50-100 hours of gametime (if you played through 2 guild quest series to the end) and you say it's not worth your $50?

Man, Half-Life 2 had like 15 hours of gametime, most of it repetitive "hack/slashing" with your gun. Doom 3 had even less. Not saying those are good games, because they weren't, but what game would you give a 9 to?

To be honest, I think you just aren't creative. Did you figure out how to assassinate the 5 people in the house without killing them? Did you use the AI to your advantage, or steal things with telekenesis? Did you buy a house, battle guards? Trick orcs into killing their own, poison food? Did you take over a castle, kill the countess? Did you raid people's houses in the night? Did you increase your acrobatics and roll-dodge/block your way through unbeatable odds?

If you made a warrior and just left clicked your way through the game, that's your choice, but there's lots of things to do in this game that make it interesting, but YOU have to do the things that are interesting. The game is boring because you've made it boring:p

And don't tell me "it's the game's job to be fun" because anything can be made into something boring. Give me any example of something that you think is inherently fun and I'll tell you how to make it boring:p

Additionally, you can describe any game as boring. Take any game and I'll argue that "all I did was left click my way all the way through." That's what a game is! Instead of saying how bad the game was, tell me how it could be better.
 
AceTKK said:
The beauty of the Elder Scrolls games has always been in the huge world to explore. Finding hidden caves to hunt for your next awesome piece of gear or wiping out a whole town so you can use it's buildings as your own museum and library are what it's all about. Mastering the alchemy and enchanting skills so you can come up with clever new ways of destroying your enemies is very satisfying too. If you just ran through the main quest then you didn't even scratch the surface.

Unfortunately, the completely inane enemy-level-and-gear-scaling system in Oblivion really destroys a lot of that appeal. I would suggest playing Morrowind instead, you might like it better.
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why would you go through a dungeon for awsome gear, because when your at the level to get the awsome gear every common bandit has it anyway
 
AceTKK said:
Unfortunately, the completely inane enemy-level-and-gear-scaling system in Oblivion really destroys a lot of that appeal. I would suggest playing Morrowind instead, you might like it better.
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Actually I think the enemey-level scaling thing might help this guy. I think the game was too easy for him.

The game is so hard for me that I have to take advantage of the physics to win. I have to battle the dremora and lure them to cliffs, then blast them off the edge with a hail storm. I have to assassinate people from afar with poisoned arrows, and sneak through areas that seem unbeatable. I have to trick my opponents into killing each other by forcing them into a frenzy of death amongst their own allies while cloaked.

Crank up the difficulty setting man.
 
paranoia4422 said:
why would you go through a dungeon for awsome gear, because when your at the level to get the awsome gear every common bandit has it anyway
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Because if you don't at least get up to par, those common bandits are going to own you:p

Plus the coolest stuff comes from quests anyway:) Go pick up the honor blade of chorral or the chameleon rings, or ... too many to name.
 
I am about to start my first game with Oblivion and have never played any of the series. What skills would some of you suggest I go with? I want to be able to steal and be sneaky but I don't want my A$$ handed to me all the time later in the game. I ain't a huge fan of magic but wouldn't mind being able to do some of that.

I love the bow though if that matters. Does anyone know of a site that explains what each skill is for?
 
Charles said:
Actually I think the enemey-level scaling thing might help this guy. I think the game was too easy for him.

The game is so hard for me that I have to take advantage of the physics to win. I have to battle the dremora and lure them to cliffs, then blast them off the edge with a hail storm. I have to assassinate people from afar with poisoned arrows, and sneak through areas that seem unbeatable. I have to trick my opponents into killing each other by forcing them into a frenzy of death amongst their own allies while cloaked.

Crank up the difficulty setting man.
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I think im going to try cranking the difficulty setting tomorrow and play the game from the beginning. though im not sure what class and race i want to be. last time i played it i was a knight. this time i want to be able to handle a sword fairly well and also meddle with some magic. Any suggestions?
 
Charles said:
Because if you don't at least get up to par, those common bandits are going to own you:p
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I finished the game without once wearing a single piece of armour, casting any armour related spells or using a single weapon :) i just ran around in a robe which added intelligence and wisdom(or whatever).

In fact, i pretty much finished the game using only 4 spells:

max thunder projectile
max fire projectile
unlock hard lock
heal self (middle level version of it)
 
Charles said:
Wait a second... so you played through the game, probably got about 50-100 hours of gametime (if you played through 2 guild quest series to the end) and you say it's not worth your $50?

Man, Half-Life 2 had like 15 hours of gametime, most of it repetitive "hack/slashing" with your gun. Doom 3 had even less. Not saying those are good games, because they weren't, but what game would you give a 9 to?

To be honest, I think you just aren't creative. Did you figure out how to assassinate the 5 people in the house without killing them? Did you use the AI to your advantage, or steal things with telekenesis? Did you buy a house, battle guards? Trick orcs into killing their own, poison food? Did you take over a castle, kill the countess? Did you raid people's houses in the night? Did you increase your acrobatics and roll-dodge/block your way through unbeatable odds?

If you made a warrior and just left clicked your way through the game, that's your choice, but there's lots of things to do in this game that make it interesting, but YOU have to do the things that are interesting. The game is boring because you've made it boring:p

And don't tell me "it's the game's job to be fun" because anything can be made into something boring. Give me any example of something that you think is inherently fun and I'll tell you how to make it boring:p

Additionally, you can describe any game as boring. Take any game and I'll argue that "all I did was left click my way all the way through." That's what a game is! Instead of saying how bad the game was, tell me how it could be better.
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QFT.

I honestly don't see how, in the era of 10-20hr games, a 200+hr game is not worth $50 -- especially when the 10-20hr games are mostly eye-candy and rehashed ideas. I really want to know what the OP thinks is worth $50 if this is not.
 
Charles said:
Wait a second... so you played through the game, probably got about 50-100 hours of gametime (if you played through 2 guild quest series to the end) and you say it's not worth your $50?

Man, Half-Life 2 had like 15 hours of gametime, most of it repetitive "hack/slashing" with your gun. Doom 3 had even less. Not saying those are good games, because they weren't.
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I stopped reading there, you lost all credibility claiming that Half-Life 2 is a bad game. Doom3, we can all agree there. But Half-Life 2? You're reaching a bit.
 
So far so good. Now I've sorted out my crashing problems the game has impressed. Oblivion is a big improvement over Morrowind. At least this time I know what the hell I'm doing. The main quest path is linear but enjoyable. The missions are fairly varied so far (I'm up to getting the second artifact for Martin). The voice acting is superlative, Sean Bean as Martin is a standout. Great to hear Lynda Carter, Terence Stamp and Patrick Stewart also. Next up I'm going to join the Mages Guild, (magic as a Breton is the way forward!) Looking forward to the weekend so I can have a long session!
 
pandora's box said:
about half way thru my first time i got bored.
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Because you probably played it way too much per sit-in. It is bound to get boring if it is all you do during the day :rolleyes:
 
Colonel Sanders said:
I'm just curious if you've ever played Daggerfall (TES II) and how you would have rated it.
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I loved that game. In many ways I feel it was superior to Oblivion at it's time of release.
 
I love the game. But then again I just love exploring and dungeon looting.

The main quest is alright, but certainly nothing that I care about to see through the end. The side quests are cool though. I love the painters mission for example. Going into that watercolor painting with all the water color trees and trolls was pretty cool.
 
megabyte said:
I stopped reading there, you lost all credibility claiming that Half-Life 2 is a bad game. Doom3, we can all agree there. But Half-Life 2? You're reaching a bit.
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Agreed, HL2 was a really good game as far as FPSers go.
 
All I have to say about Oblivion so far in regard to this thread is this:

Current playtime: 35+ hours

I haven't given the Amulet to Jauffre yet. That's right. I haven't even touched the main quest. I honestly doubt I will until maybe hour 100 or so.

In an era where games with a storyline take well under even my current playtime to complete, I think that speaks volumes about Oblivion without even going into great detail about why the game is a masterpiece. In fact I'd easily put it in my top 5 games I've ever played and that's coming from someone who is not only a game programmer, but also someone who's been gaming since 1986.
 
Json23 said:
Agreed, HL2 was a really good game as far as FPSers go.
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I think that game goes more on a per person basis, some parts of half life just dragged to me, and then some parts made me say damn that was neat. But I think some people over rate that game.

And if you are bored with oblivion you need to crank the diff up a bit.
 
Charles said:
Because if you don't at least get up to par, those common bandits are going to own you:p

Plus the coolest stuff comes from quests anyway:) Go pick up the honor blade of chorral or the chameleon rings, or ... too many to name.
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sorry i dont know about those things nor know what to do to get em, im not dropping $20 on a strategy guide......id steal one but id never have the chance anyway since the only people who carry them are small ass eb games/gamestop and thats not worth it

and to be honest my level1 in iron armor owns everything more then my level15, im planning not to ever level up with him since i get more enjoyment out of not feeling like im growing weaker by the hour
 
I'm doing fighters guild, did campire hunters, and the quest line foir the ayleid artifact collector as well ast he main story line.

Good guy/explorer.

Plenty of things to do in the mage guild quest line, Thieves guild, dark brotherhood etc.

In morrowind there were 3 great famlies you could join with quest lines, the temple, and th eimperial guard, maybe others. I haven't seen a way to join the imperial guard or some sort oftemple faction, but that doesn't mean it's not there. Still lots of gameplay, each guild is a story line in and of itself, and you completely missed them.

By only playing the main story line, you experienced maybe 1/10 of the game, if that. No wonder you don't feel like you got your money's worth.
 
Menelmarar said:
I'm doing fighters guild, did campire hunters, and the quest line foir the ayleid artifact collector as well ast he main story line.

Good guy/explorer.

Plenty of things to do in the mage guild quest line, Thieves guild, dark brotherhood etc.

In morrowind there were 3 great famlies you could join with quest lines, the temple, and th eimperial guard, maybe others. I haven't seen a way to join the imperial guard or some sort oftemple faction, but that doesn't mean it's not there. Still lots of gameplay, each guild is a story line in and of itself, and you completely missed them.

By only playing the main story line, you experienced maybe 1/10 of the game, if that. No wonder you don't feel like you got your money's worth.
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i joined and im the master of the fighters guild and the dark brotherhood.
 
My only disappointment with this game is kinda of funny if you ever have played end game WoW. Basically the lack of gear for casters, I am a lower at 8 but I am wearing plate, iron and leather with a shield and a sword. I should be in cloth now I am not really deep into the game so maybe I am missing items but still I have only found one staff a crappie one at that and no good cloth. I did chose to be a battle mage so perhaps I just don’t quite understand the gear I should be wearing but a shield that doesn’t seem mageish. Other then that this game is awesome so many things to do, right now I am a warrior with the arena, a member of the blades and on my 6th quest for the mages guild. But as a battle mage I do more hacking and slashing then casting, at this point my most powerful spell is a 35pt shock and the scamp, 2 shocks and I am out of Magikca.
 
GabooN said:
My only disappointment with this game is kinda of funny if you ever have played end game WoW. Basically the lack of gear for casters, I am a lower at 8 but I am wearing plate, iron and leather with a shield and a sword. I should be in cloth now I am not really deep into the game so maybe I am missing items but still I have only found one staff a crappie one at that and no good cloth. I did chose to be a battle mage so perhaps I just don’t quite understand the gear I should be wearing but a shield that doesn’t seem mageish. Other then that this game is awesome so many things to do, right now I am a warrior with the arena, a member of the blades and on my 6th quest for the mages guild. But as a battle mage I do more hacking and slashing then casting, at this point my most powerful spell is a 35pt shock and the scamp, 2 shocks and I am out of Magikca.
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What are your main attributes?
 
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