How Excited Are You About The Intel Macs?

In all honesty, I'm looking forward to these upcoming Intel Macs. Hopefully these Intel Macs should make it easier to port PC games over to the Mac (I know, I know, it depends on the game). ATI will more then likely announce their 512MB graphics cards for the Mac at some point (This is more specualtion then anything at this point so take this with a grain of salt). 2006 may be the year where Mac gaming begins to take off and becomes more mainstream. I love PC gaming, but I would love to give gaming on the Mac a try, but I'll wait for the Intel Macs to debut before doing so.

stick with pc unless you do design or graphic work. Mac gaming will never be like pc because of direct-x, open gl is a differnt story. Also once the intel version of osx is out it will be cracked to run on your pc no need to buy a mac

I am looking forward to it. I would love a pentium m 12 inch powerbook with a graphics card in it. Run mac os for the normal shit and boot into xp for some light games. I hate the fact that all apples have a graphics chip on them and that almost all the smaller pc notebooks run the ones built into the chipset.

I'm looking forward to seeing what they do on the powerbook front. If they are awesome then I'll probably spring for one. If I'm going to drop ~$2000 on a notebook I want it to have the refinement of a powerbook.

dual core, dual proc. power mac....mmmmm


In all seriousness, I think the intel switch will do nothing but good things for the computer side of apple and I seriously doubt many main stream consumers will be seen with OS X on a beige box or vice versa...kinda defeats the stability/compatability that you see in apple computers today.

ehh not very, just bought another g4 mac yesterday . 599 are you out of ur mind?

-esr

I'm very excited for this change. forget not buying another apple, try not buying another PC! I really need a new laptop, but it looks like Apple has one more G4 powerbook up their sleeve (I hope..). Otherwise it's gonna be a long wait as I'm not sure if I want a Rev.A MacIntel...

Intel Powermacs?

Yes Please!

Video editing will be aweseome.

i can finally run garageband

It'll definately be good for people wanting a BSD style system with a warranty and support. As for just cracking it to run on regular systems, OSX is only one part of Apples appeal. Ive used powerbooks and they are IMHO better built more sturdy feeling, not to mention asthetics.

I'm chomping at the bit for a dual-core Pentium M PowerBook. If it has a fast video chipset, I might not need a desktop machine after that!

Aurelius said:

I'm chomping at the bit for a dual-core Pentium M PowerBook. If it has a fast video chipset, I might not need a desktop machine after that!

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Thatr'd be aweseome for mobile vid editing!

It's kinda hard to get exicted over something that's not going to be here for a while.

Besides, Apple didn't switch to Intel because hard core mac gaming sucks. No, they switched because they want to produce better, less expensive laptops. People have never bought macs just to game on, and probably never will. Apple is a hardware company, if they wanted to provide you with the best available gaming experience, they'd sell you an Apple engineered game console.

^^^ Hey theres an idea the nano appleboxthreevolution. With a stickon the dvd lid that says, the "S.S. More powerful than superman,spiderman, and the incredible hulk combined"

less expensive laptops.

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I miss where jobs indicated the switch to intel was to provide cheaper computers, as opposed to say, faster cooler computers... do we really think there will be a dramatic reduction in cost?

-esr

Since I just bought my Powermac Dual 2G G5, I'm good for some time. But I would like a Powerbook down the road so I would wait until there's a significant OS upgrade from Tiger then just Intel version of Tiger OS.

esr2 said:

I miss where jobs indicated the switch to intel was to provide cheaper computers, as opposed to say, faster cooler computers... do we really think there will be a dramatic reduction in cost?

-esr

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I am of the thinking that the Apple system that you "really" want will always remain at 2000$ or more.. Some serious shakeup would have to happen at Apple to change that, but we said the same thing about the intel switch, so let's wait and see.

I think the biggest thing missing right now is a midrange option from Apple (as all-in-one systems do not count and never ever ever will). There's nothing filling the gap between the mini and the powermac, and that's insane if you consider the difference in price. I don't think the price points for their current products will change much if at all, however, you could always see a new midrange line by this time next year. Expanded market share would pretty much depend on it.

As far as I've understood it, Apple buys G4s and G5s for less than PMs and P4s cost. Of course, since they'll probably use Intel's motherboards, they won't have to design new themselves... Less R&D could reduce prices significantly. Apple has really high R&D for their size, I think.

Intel based macs might actually hurt the Mac gaming scene. People might just start to install Windows and then boot into it whenever they want to play a game instead of waiting for the OSX version to come out. When the OSX version finally does come out they might already have lost interest in even playing the game let alone buying the Apple version of it.

The outcome - whether it helps or hurts the apple gaming market - will be determined by how much the average Apple user is willing to boot into Windows. If they really hate Windows that much then the switch to X86 will mean a larger number of games released for the Mac since the cost of porting will be smaller.

time to accept that fact that no matter what happens, gaming on the mac just wont be like gaming on the pc.

hoepfully youve already accepted that computing on a pc just wont ever be like computing on a mac either i think its a good trade off.

DigitalEdge said:

stick with pc unless you do design or graphic work. Mac gaming will never be like pc because of direct-x, open gl is a differnt story. Also once the intel version of osx is out it will be cracked to run on your pc no need to buy a mac

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it has been cracked, and doesnt need to be cracked, a dev's version got hacked from someone, and it booted up first try on his dell laptop.......

and someone else i read somewhere had their A64 working it

its not much differnt, the x86 instruction is on intel/amd procs, have been for a while iirc?

soulsaver

Garage81 said:

time to accept that fact that no matter what happens, gaming on the mac just wont be like gaming on the pc.

hoepfully youve already accepted that computing on a pc just wont ever be like computing on a mac either i think its a good trade off.

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Soulsaver, Mac OS X for x86 runs on any x86 with SSE2. iTunes and a few other application runs only if the computer has SSE3. Unless the logic board etc are horribly incompatible, it'll run on just about any hardware. Now, that is. There's no telling how hard-to-crack the final version will be.

I deffinatly want an Intel Powerbook.

15'' Widescreen
Dual Core Yonah
2GB Dual Channel DDR2 Ram
Hopefully a G70 Go Video Card w/ Dedicated 256MB Ram
16x SuperDrive
100GB 7200RPM HDD

I would pay 3Grand for it. Because it would be stable. And be fast. And sexy.

Damn Apple Crack

WIRD on the apple crack. I sold my powerbook a while ago, on friday I was talking to my apple rep about what a wonderful brand they have managed to build, where people buy shit simply because it's apple. case in point, class starts Monday, i thought it would be nice to have something to take notes on again, five minutes later i had an ibook in my backpack. sure i could have found a faster laptop for $599, but it wouldn't have had OSX and that makes all the difference... well that and the fact that the visual and tactile appeal of apple products still remain unparalleled. So in short, apple is crack, their sh*t is gold, and people will buy simply because it's apple. how else can you explain 100 4gb iPod minis selling in under an hour in my po' dunk store because they were only $100, or 45 12" ibooks disappearing in two even though they're older revisions. Naysayer will continue to chant their typical negative banter, but just as people such as motorola's ceo continue to put their foot in their mouth, so to will apple continue to grow. and that's is so insane to me, such a small market share, such a tremendous amount of brand recognition, so much room to grow. Anyone doubting Apple's ability to continue growing need only step into a college bookstore and watch students spend their first installments of financial aid on iPod Nanos simply because they're the newest iPod product (many customers already owning 4g iPods and/or shuffles)

I’m going to readdress the less expensive point, I did a bit of u know, logical thinking, and yes, cutting prices would be effective… expressly because the moment we sell 20” imacs for a grand, ibooks for $599 or minis for $99, we sell out in a matter of hours, vs a week for our typical inventory of said items.

-esr

Yeah I'm excited to see what happens in the industry, and what direction apple really goes with all this. Generally i like apple, but I can't stomach this area of computers very long, too much of a superiority complex. Oh yes macs are appealing, yes they look and behave differently some would say better than windows, but I've watched people get hard fu$%ed buying apple products in the last 15 years. Old apple, new apple, different company now or not, people need to realize the past, and that Steve Jobbs can and has screwed people in the past for a dollar. this got off topic, my bad.

QuimZ said:

Yeah I'm excited to see what happens in the industry, and what direction apple really goes with all this. Generally i like apple, but I can't stomach this area of computers very long, too much of a superiority complex. Oh yes macs are appealing, yes they look and behave differently some would say better than windows, but I've watched people get hard fu$%ed buying apple products in the last 15 years. Old apple, new apple, different company now or not, people need to realize the past, and that Steve Jobbs can and has screwed people in the past for a dollar. this got off topic, my bad.

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Very relevant to the current discussion indeed.