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Wiring my cat5e to wall plates. I can only seem to find online wiring refs that show me how to wire to a RJ-45 jack but not onto the CAT5e wall plate. I have a punch down tool here but don't really know how to wire this. I am using a test cable that is only 1 foot long and I stipped it and see 8 wires wrapped in groups of two.

Does anyone know if there's a link that will show me the wiring diagram for this.

Thanks
 
they have to be wired the same as your cables in order for the wires to match up...

QJ
 
QwertyJuan said:
they have to be wired the same as your cables in order for the wires to match up...

QJ
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They don't care how your patch cables are wired. There are two wiring patterns you can select for your wiring (A and B) and either can be used so long as you use the same standard throughout the installation. The color of each wire is usually printed on the side of the plug. The only real trick is to know that both schemes are usually printed on the sides. Pick the top stripe as a guide or the bottom stripe. Once you realize that two schemes are printed and that you ignore one and use the other exclusively it's a cakewalk.
 
they may NOT, BUT you have to make sure that your wires match both places. If wire 3 and 4 are crossed on your patch ables then they also need to cross in your wall mounts. This is what I was getting at.

The standard I use it

White orange
Orange
White green
Blue
White blue
Green
White Brown
Brown

QJ
 
QwertyJuan said:
If wire 3 and 4 are crossed on your patch ables then they also need to cross in your wall mounts.
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That's just not true. Wall cabling to either standard results in exactly the same 1-1 match between the pins on either end.

If you added 1 foot of extra wire to an existing cable, you wouldn't cross it over again, would you?

The only advice that makes sense it that within a structure the wall cabling should all use the same standard. But in reality, the only thing that matters is on a cable-by-cable basis, both ends of the same cable must use the same standard. That's it.

Read second-to-last sentence:

http://www.pera.net/Category_5_Document.htm
 
QwertyJuan said:
they may NOT, BUT you have to make sure that your wires match both places. If wire 3 and 4 are crossed on your patch ables then they also need to cross in your wall mounts. This is what I was getting at.

The standard I use it

White orange
Orange
White green
Blue
White blue
Green
White Brown
Brown

QJ
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Good for you, you know a standard.

When have you ever seen a patch cable with wires three and four swapped...100% functional? If you swapped three and four on the patch cable and then again on the wallplate then sure, what you're saying is correct.

However, anyone worth their salt knows to double-check and re-check each termination point after they're finished...anything less would just be bad form.
 
I am not trying to be a know it all, but I am just saying to follow the same standard everywhere. If you do one on the panels and a different one on your cables it won't work... this is from experience... I did all the patch cables and a friend did all the wall plates, and we each used a different standard, and it was a REAL pain trying to figure out why our cables wouldn't work.

Sorry for being confusing earlier.

QJ
 
carloswill said:
Wiring my cat5e to wall plates. I can only seem to find online wiring refs that show me how to wire to a RJ-45 jack but not onto the CAT5e wall plate. I have a punch down tool here but don't really know how to wire this. I am using a test cable that is only 1 foot long and I stipped it and see 8 wires wrapped in groups of two.

Does anyone know if there's a link that will show me the wiring diagram for this.

Thanks
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What kind of wallplates are you using? If it's a Cat 5e network jack it should have the color codes on the jack itself, then you just match up the color codes on the wire to the ones on the jack and punch them down with the tool.

Some jacks are dual labeled for the T568A and T568B standards. Make sure you use the same on all jacks, I stick with B myself.
 
valve1138 said:
What kind of wallplates are you using? If it's a Cat 5e network jack it should have the color codes on the jack itself, then you just match up the color codes on the wire to the ones on the jack and punch them down with the tool.
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I am using CAT5e plates but I guess I don't know how to read them. The colors are labeled very clear. Sorry for the crappy pic but camera wont focus for some reason...

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The reason you cannot find online guides is that the manufacturers don't always put the terminations in the same orders on the plugs. That's what the color coding is for that is printed on the plugs.

From the picture you have provided (I am guessing a bit because of the fuzziness), if you are using the A standard you would go:

(starting at the upper left of the plug as pictured)
Solid Brown
Striped Brown
Solid Green
Striped Green
Solid Orange
Stiped Orange
Solid Blue
Striped Blue


If using B:
Solid Brown
Striped Brown
Solid Orange
Stiped Orange
Solid Green
Striped Green
Solid Blue
Striped Blue

Double check that (the A vs B may be backward...again I can't really see the labeling on the plug)

The biggest this ins to stick with STANDARD pinouts on ALL cat5(5e,6) cabling...don't listen to the people who say as long as it is the same on both ends yadda yadda...DO IT RIGHT and you won't regredt it!
 
When you strip the outer jacket off of the cable revealing the pairs inside you see that the colors match up to the color onthe jack. Orange to Orange, Orange with White stripe to Orange with white stripe for example.

Match up the colors and punch them down.

Here's a guide I found, hope it helps. http://www.homepcnetwork.com/wirest4f.htm
 
TECHKnight said:
The biggest this ins to stick with STANDARD pinouts on ALL cat5(5e,6) cabling...don't listen to the people who say as long as it is the same on both ends yadda yadda...DO IT RIGHT and you won't regredt it!
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Who is saying 'as long as it is the same on both ends?' The statement I made was 'both ends of the same cable must use the same standard" and followed up by posting a document that details both 568A and 568B standards.
 
^^
Sorry for any misunderstanding, I wasn't implying those who have posted in this forum, rather I was refering to what I often hear from 'professionals' (wannabes) in the 'industry'.

And yes, I agree completely, both ends MUST use the same standard; and preferably the entire site. Use A or use B, but don't use both...you'll drive yourself crazy :p
 
TECHKnight said:
The biggest this ins to stick with STANDARD pinouts on ALL cat5(5e,6) cabling...don't listen to the people who say as long as it is the same on both ends yadda yadda...DO IT RIGHT and you won't regredt it!
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Standards. Not requirements. :rolleyes:
 
Well, I sat and looked at the color code on the back of the wall connector and it did not make sense untill I read the fact that there is an A & B standard. I was confusing not knowing this because one section would have a pic of two colors but each was labeled A & B which was confusing but now I see that depending on how you wire your LAN, is what will go on that particular color section.

Thanks again all.
 
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