10 Reasons You Should Upgrade to Windows 8.1 Now

Number 1 reason to use Windows 8 is.......


It matches my drapes.
 
Lith1um said:
Top reasons not to install,

1)Metro
2)No Aero-Glass
3)Having to buy a $100~ OS license when Microsoft sold them to anyone for $20 just 6 months ago.
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4) Useless apps that take space and performance.

I'm quite satisfied with Windows 7, but all this crap is making me wanna return back to Linux...
 
heatlesssun said:
Again, the integration of the cloud does get a lot of negative reaction from many 8 opponents, however cloud integration is at the heart of phones and tablets and average people can't seem to get enough of it.
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Most of your responses is how it'll effect tablet and smart phones. Am I the only one here that see's this as a problem? You can't make a single OS both desktop and tablet friendly. Pick one or the other, not both.

Cloud computing isn't just unnecessary with a 1TB hard drive, but a bad idea. I really don't trust Microsoft with anything. In fact I don't trust any corporation with any personal info. I don't even trust them with my credit card info.

I don't even see how people are going nuts for cloud anyway. Despite my hatred for it, I can't find anything available to conveniently integrate it. Best example is E-Mail, if you can consider that cloud computing.
And again, just another way in how different people look at computing. Apps like this are important to the future of Windows if it is to remain a relevant consumer platform.
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I had the Facebook app on my phone, and just ripping it out. The amount of information and notifications drove me nuts. Mostly due to battery drain because of notification overload. When I'm on my computer, I'll simply visit the website instead of using an app.
 
Surely there are better improvements from 8 to 8.1 than what this article lists? I'm happy with my win7/arch dual boot configuration so I haven't really gone looking. Surely this is just a bad article, and someone with a brain could come up with a real top 10 list...?
 
kache said:
I'm quite satisfied with Windows 7, but all this crap is making me wanna return back to Linux...
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Right now Linux's main issue is using Windows programs on it. But a new feature in WINE is about to dramatically increase performance for running Windows programs. Some people have reported that the increase even beats Windows in some situations.

Once that's stable, I'm making the switch. Screw this Windows bullcrap. Microsoft is heading for the a cliff and hit the gas peddle instead of the brakes.
 
Ten reasons NOT to upgrade to Windows 8.1

1. Update is only on Windows store, no ISO to download.
2. Windows 98, XP, Vista and 7 users are forced to pay full retail to get it.
3. Schizophrenic operating system.
4. Start button still does nothing.
5. Windows store is completely useless.
6. Default background color is vomit yellow.
7. OS is designed for touch screen, not the desktop user.
8. Even as administrator, you still don't have rights/access to some folders.
9. Simple tasks are more difficult.
10. Desktop apps don't run in the modern experience and modern apps don't run on the desktop. They are different -- radically different -- and share the same operating system
 
vsboxerboy said:
I dunno, I use a 128GB SSD in my desktop. In fact, doesn't the Surface 2 Pro come with a 64 gig option? Seems like space is important for those people.
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Ah, good point. I'm stuck in 2009 where everybody still uses large spinning drives. :D
 
Ashbringer said:
Most of your responses is how it'll effect tablet and smart phones. Am I the only one here that see's this as a problem? You can't make a single OS both desktop and tablet friendly. Pick one or the other, not both.
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This get's said a lot but I don't accept that it has to be an either or thing. From an applications perspective desktop apps work in 8.x like 7. And applications designed for touch work like they would on an iPad or Android tablet. Most of the debate over 8 are over things like a full screen app launcher and the use of touch friendly apps on the desktop. Yes there are some issues there but the vast majority of time on a computing device is spent in applications, not the app launcher or configuration settings.

Ashbringer said:
Cloud computing isn't just unnecessary with a 1TB hard drive, but a bad idea. I really don't trust Microsoft with anything. In fact I don't trust any corporation with any personal info. I don't even trust them with my credit card info.
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One can debate trust issues, but high capacity local storage doesn't address issues like easy cross device and platform access to data or synchronization.

Ashbringer said:
I don't even see how people are going nuts for cloud anyway. Despite my hatred for it, I can't find anything available to conveniently integrate it. Best example is E-Mail, if you can consider that cloud computing.
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Settings, configurations and apps. Install or uninstall a modern app on one PC and that follows all other PCs tied to the same Microsoft account. This is simply the kind of thing makes it easier to use a computer. Again, debate the trust and security issues all you want and that's legitimate, but pointing out ease and convenience of cloud integration is also a legitimate point.

Ashbringer said:
I had the Facebook app on my phone, and just ripping it out. The amount of information and notifications drove me nuts. Mostly due to battery drain because of notification overload. When I'm on my computer, I'll simply visit the website instead of using an app.
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My wife is a moderate user of Facebook and I showed her the app the other day and now even on a desktop with a keyboard and mouse she likes it better than the web site. Much has been said about the lack of options in 8 however where there is choice, one can still use the web site if one prefers, it seems like those choices are considered valid.
 
c0re said:
Ten reasons NOT to upgrade to Windows 8.1

1. Update is only on Windows store, no ISO to download.
2. Windows 98, XP, Vista and 7 users are forced to pay full retail to get it.
3. Schizophrenic operating system.
4. Start button still does nothing.
5. Windows store is completely useless.
6. Default background color is vomit yellow.
7. OS is designed for touch screen, not the desktop user.
8. Even as administrator, you still don't have rights/access to some folders.
9. Simple tasks are more difficult.
10. Desktop apps don't run in the modern experience and modern apps don't run on the desktop. They are different -- radically different -- and share the same operating system
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Nice one:D
 
all this ignorance is pissing me off. that damn thing is new. ios was once new android was once new shit windows 90-fn-5 was once new. people don't like change but they get used to it. mine as well get with it because in this technologically infused world it doesn't take long for things that are a year old to become outdated get with it WINDOWS 7 IS IN THE PAST
 
I guess I'm the minority here, very happy with 8.1. It addressed some of the things I wanted to see when I was using 8, no complaints from me.
 
chinesepiratefood said:
They can't, I've asked many times.
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Checking network status.

Checking Performance Index.

Finding My Computer

Setting up POP mail.

Playing a video DVD.

Removing stupid Apps concerning hobbies and small talk.

Ignoring invalid SAMBA links.

probably a few others. I'm a newbie.
 
When trying out the enterprise evaluation I see this.

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techtechie said:
all this ignorance is pissing me off. that damn thing is new. ios was once new android was once new shit windows 90-fn-5 was once new. people don't like change but they get used to it. mine as well get with it because in this technologically infused world it doesn't take long for things that are a year old to become outdated get with it WINDOWS 7 IS IN THE PAST
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Doesnt seem to be the past for me. Im still using it and will continue to use it til Win9 comes around. Same reason why I stuck with Win XP all the way up til 7. We're not talking about great technological advancements here. Win8 doesnt do anything really better than Win7, it just looks worse. So all you get in "upgrading" is the same performance but with a worse UI. Id rather keep Win7 that performs as well as Win8 and has a better UI. I dont see why anything is wrong with that.
 
Qinsp said:
Checking network status.

Checking Performance Index.

Finding My Computer

Setting up POP mail.

Playing a video DVD.

Removing stupid Apps concerning hobbies and small talk.

Ignoring invalid SAMBA links.

probably a few others. I'm a newbie.
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At lot of conditions here. The first two I'd say are two of the stronger points in your list though I wouldn't necessarily think they are simple or routine things that most would do regularly. One thing that is nice in 8.x is the metered connection and being able to measure and restrict network activity if one is connected via a metered connection.

As for POP mail and DVD playback, that's really an app thing. When people bring up the DVD issue I think of the Samsung 500T tablet I bought last year, a device with no DVD drive, came with Cyberlink Power DVD and plays DVDs just fine when you plug in a DVD out of the box. Go figure.
 
MacLeod said:
Doesnt seem to be the past for me. Im still using it and will continue to use it til Win9 comes around. Same reason why I stuck with Win XP all the way up til 7. We're not talking about great technological advancements here. Win8 doesnt do anything really better than Win7, it just looks worse. So all you get in "upgrading" is the same performance but with a worse UI. Id rather keep Win7 that performs as well as Win8 and has a better UI. I dont see why anything is wrong with that.
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It is going to be interesting to see performance benchmarks come out comparing 8.1 to 7, especially with something like BF4. I don't have any personal numbers but a lot of users are reporting that 8.1 is a nice performance jump over 8, particularly on slower hardware, I've seen it on my Clover Trail tablet. Granted I wouldn't say that any top end performance has improved but this year old Clover Trail seems to run much smoother on 8.1 than 8 thus far.
 
Tripple SLI 3 screen setup with Nvidia cards. Windows 8.1 has a major issue with tripple SLI and 3monitor + setups. It does not detect that the 3rd card is connected to the monitor correctly. If you reinstall windows 8 without touching the cabling on the PC it then goes back to normal and detects everything fine. EVGA says that Nvidia and Microsoft have been notified and are working on it,but this was reported when the preview 1st launched and is still an issue. Be careful.
 
Mac75 said:
Tripple SLI 3 screen setup with Nvidia cards. Windows 8.1 has a major issue with tripple SLI and 3monitor + setups. It does not detect that the 3rd card is connected to the monitor correctly. If you reinstall windows 8 without touching the cabling on the PC it then goes back to normal and detects everything fine. EVGA says that Nvidia and Microsoft have been notified and are working on it,but this was reported when the preview 1st launched and is still an issue. Be careful.
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So this is an upgrade issue correct? I've got my sig rig dual booting 8.1 from a clean install and it's works fine.
 
Ashbringer said:
#8 Improved Multi-Monitor Support

Tablet feature. Also don't care.
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How the hell is improved multi-monitor support a "tablet feature" :confused:

You can now run each connected display at its own DPI (you're no-longer stuck with one DPI setting on all displays). This will FINALLY allow me to connect my PC to a monitor and a TV at the same time, and have everything be scaled to the correct size.
 
heatlesssun said:
It is going to be interesting to see performance benchmarks come out comparing 8.1 to 7, especially with something like BF4. I don't have any personal numbers but a lot of users are reporting that 8.1 is a nice performance jump over 8, particularly on slower hardware, I've seen it on my Clover Trail tablet. Granted I wouldn't say that any top end performance has improved but this year old Clover Trail seems to run much smoother on 8.1 than 8 thus far.
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Now that is something entirely different. You start showing me REAL performance gains and actual benefits, then I can overlook the UI and even Metro and Ill probably switch. But from what Im seeing right now, performance is really no different at least not enough that youd actually notice in real world use.
 
MacLeod said:
Now that is something entirely different. You start showing me REAL performance gains and actual benefits, then I can overlook the UI and even Metro and Ill probably switch. But from what Im seeing right now, performance is really no different at least not enough that youd actually notice in real world use.
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It's certainly more efficient than Windows 7. My laptop gained easily gained an extra 2 to 3 hours of battery life going from Windows 7 to Windows 8.1, so they've done something under the hood to eek out the same level of performance with fewer resources being utilized.

On the desktop side of things, it made my media center PC's a touch quieter / lower power, which is nice. Never want to ruin movie-watching by having a PC start ramping up its fans mid-stream.
 
lhhbjw said:
I know this argument has been done to death, but, I dont understand why so many people hate windows 8 or 8.1 . I just upgraded some work machines from windows XP to WIndows 8.1. Sure the users were stumbling around for a bit, but after sitting down with them for about 20 minutes each they started to get a handle on it. They even started bragging, to the other users who hadn't been upgraded, about how nice windows 8.1 is.

The new start button is GREAT. The old start button was way outdated.

The new search in 8.1 is awesome.
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Brought to you by Microsoft.
 
Unknown-One said:
How the hell is improved multi-monitor support a "tablet feature" :confused:

You can now run each connected display at its own DPI (you're no-longer stuck with one DPI setting on all displays). This will FINALLY allow me to connect my PC to a monitor and a TV at the same time, and have everything be scaled to the correct size.
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Had to go back and check that that was what he posted, wow. For some reason improved multiple monitor support in 8 and now 8.1 is a sticky issue for 8.x opponents. Yes, something that's desktop oriented is better in 8.1 than 7.
 
MacLeod said:
Now that is something entirely different. You start showing me REAL performance gains and actual benefits, then I can overlook the UI and even Metro and Ill probably switch. But from what Im seeing right now, performance is really no different at least not enough that youd actually notice in real world use.
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There's definitely performance gains in 8.1 over 8 but as I said before they'd probably be noticed the most on slower hardware. It will be interesting to see benchmarks for BF4.
 
If you don't like Windows you can go use that piece of shit called Linux and Android.
 
DPI said:
Brought to you by Microsoft.
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Or it could be that this is his personal view of it. I don't understand why so many around here have a hard time with the notion that some actually like 8 and looking at the reviews, some from not so friendly Microsoft sources, 8.1 is getting pretty solid reviews overall, certainly an improvement over 8. And yeah, the smart search, I know a couple of people personally that think it's awesome. It's the kind of thing that is obvious average people were going to like.
 
Windows 7 is the new XP.
If MS keeps this shit up 7 will be around forever.
Skipping this iteration, if 9 brings more of the same then I guess I'll skip that too.
 
I dont think W8 is bad. Yes it has some wierd shit on the metro side, but so what. if you dont like it dont use it.

But does it really have anything worth paying for as a desktop PC user, as a major new OS release? I really dont think so.

What I am saying is, if I built a new computer today, I would buy W8, but would not pay to "upgrade".

W8, should really be called W7.1, with added support for mobile devices as a major feature.
 
heatlesssun said:
There's definitely performance gains in 8.1 over 8 but as I said before they'd probably be noticed the most on slower hardware. It will be interesting to see benchmarks for BF4.
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Yeah I look forward to those too. I dont hate Win8 just on spec. My beef has always been the UI and that I just simply like Win7's a whole lot better. Maybe there are some things under the hood of Win8 that have a lot of potential and arent being used right now that much but future programs may take off and run with them. If thats the case, Ill switch. Im always up for an excuse to buy new shit. And if Im gonna install a new OS, I might as well buy a new motherboard while Im at it.........then might as well buy a new CPU....... ;)
 
heatlesssun said:
Had to go back and check that that was what he posted, wow. For some reason improved multiple monitor support in 8 and now 8.1 is a sticky issue for 8.x opponents. Yes, something that's desktop oriented is better in 8.1 than 7.
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Nice strawman creating a scenario that didn't actually exist. The issue about multi-monitor is its the ONLY thing desktop oriented thats better in 8.1.

Everything else changed from 8.0 to 8.1 is tablet oriented Metro stuff, and increased intrusion of Microsoft's online service ambitions with default spydrive, ads in default apps and ads in default search.

For desktop users you're better off sticking with Win7, or Win8.0 with a start menu replacement or better yet Ex7ForW8 so you run the true Win7 shell which prevents Metro from even hooking into resident memory.
 
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