Xbox One Automatically Adjusts To Prevent Overheating

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This is definitely a useful feature. Makes you wonder why they didn't do this sooner.

So here's a cool thing the Xbox One can do: It automatically recognizes when it's overheating—probably because you're an idiot and left a pizza box on top of it—and can adjust on the fly. In fact, it's designed with extra room to make those adjustments.
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Am I wrong thinking any real computer has a tolerance that should automatically shut down the device if it overheats, hell even my iphone does it....why is this news? Plus wasnt the RROD there version of that anyways?
 
I give a lot of Kudos for Microsoft doing their research and trying to do things right for their consumer base. They tried to do what they thought was right, sometimes they are, sometimes they are not. I have 2 xbox 360's never having a RROD. Perhaps my user environment was well suited for the units. I don't mind that the Xbox ONE was engineered for longevity. Between these types of features plus the amazing new controller, I can't wait to get mine. Haptic response triggers that are sensitive enough to even sense your heartrate through controller. I agree with Steve's input a couple days ago regarding MS listening to consumers then catching backlash, people are going to hate just because.

Microsoft could have not learned from lessons past and overlooked this. Sometimes having something go wrong better prepares you for the future.
 
why is this such glorious news? consumers should be peeved if it DIDN'T have this ability.
 
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HAQattaq said:
why is this such glorious news? consumers should be peeved if it DIDN'T have this ability.
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Perhaps, maybe they are pushing buyer confidence. Apple totes things like noise cancelation even though the tech has been around forever. IMO sounds to me they over engineered device, makes me laugh that people think that this is a bad thing. Sony camp seems mum on this issue. Perhaps Sony will have the issues this time around. If Microsoft is wasting their time on this what do you care, it's not your money and clearly doesn't matter what they say.
 
No, they mean the Xbox One can literally shift around its internals like a Transformer (specifically, a Decepticon) to fix airflow problems. ;)
 
the technology in the xbox 360 was old. there was no such thing as power gating transistors and dynamic clock speeds were rarely used... especially by anyone other than AMD/Intel. If you look at the idle power consumption of a modern PC and compare it to one around the xbox 360 time frame... its a huge difference.

Simply put... this is obvious and should of course me done on a modern console. But dont get upset that the 360 didn't have it. Not much around that time did.
 
In other words, if you're playing a game for a while and its prone to overheating in normal use like the last generation, you'll always be gaming at reduced performance.

Enjoy the lag suckers!
 
skiboysteve said:
the technology in the xbox 360 was old. there was no such thing as power gating transistors and dynamic clock speeds were rarely used... especially by anyone other than AMD/Intel. If you look at the idle power consumption of a modern PC and compare it to one around the xbox 360 time frame... its a huge difference.

Simply put... this is obvious and should of course me done on a modern console. But dont get upset that the 360 didn't have it. Not much around that time did.
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My thoughts exactly. Coupled with bad solder joints and inadequate cooling made it a recipe for disaster.
 
Ducman69 said:
In other words, if you're playing a game for a while and its prone to overheating in normal use like the last generation, you'll always be gaming at reduced performance.

Enjoy the lag suckers!
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This...
 
So the Xbox 0ne, which is really just a PC, is able to tie system fan speeds to temperature ...just like a PC, and is able to throttle down it's processor if it's too hot...just like a PC?

2004 called and wants their fancy new features back :D
 
This announcement reminds me of the iPhone commercials that describe a revolutionary new feature for the next iPhone that's already been around on Android or Blackberry for years.
 
xX326Xx said:
I give a lot of Kudos for Microsoft doing their research and trying to do things right for their consumer base. They tried to do what they thought was right, sometimes they are, sometimes they are not. I have 2 xbox 360's never having a RROD. Perhaps my user environment was well suited for the units. I don't mind that the Xbox ONE was engineered for longevity. Between these types of features plus the amazing new controller, I can't wait to get mine. Haptic response triggers that are sensitive enough to even sense your heartrate through controller. I agree with Steve's input a couple days ago regarding MS listening to consumers then catching backlash, people are going to hate just because.

Microsoft could have not learned from lessons past and overlooked this. Sometimes having something go wrong better prepares you for the future.
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Give credit to amd for engineering such a fantastic piece of silicone that has this feature by default. Microshit deserves no credit here
 
Is this just another way for Microsoft to say, "there may be overheating with the XB1, but don't worry we tried to fix it?"
 
This way they can quote high clocking numbers which are only valide for about 15 seconds after you power up.
 
Ashbringer said:
Mainly due to cheap solder used in China. Wasn't just the Xbox that suffered from this cheap solder but many other electronics. PCs have had this for over 10 years now, it's just new to game consoles apparently. Nobody ever noticed in the BIOS or CMOS the features that motherboards have had?
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I'd say cheap solder is a bonus for designers. It brings down costs, and it drives the service/support revenue streams. The problem here is that it was coupled with horrible thermal design.

I'm sure Microsoft would have been fine if their consoles only lasted 3-5 years. What're you going to do, sell all your games+accessories? No, you buy another one. The problem was that it was failing too soon.
 
Spidey329 said:
I'd say cheap solder is a bonus for designers. It brings down costs, and it drives the service/support revenue streams. The problem here is that it was coupled with horrible thermal design.

I'm sure Microsoft would have been fine if their consoles only lasted 3-5 years. What're you going to do, sell all your games+accessories? No, you buy another one. The problem was that it was failing too soon.
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it wasnt cheap solder it was gen 1 piss poor lead free stuff that EU mandated

blame the lead free electronics laws in the EU
 
Spidey329 said:
I'd say cheap solder is a bonus for designers. It brings down costs, and it drives the service/support revenue streams. The problem here is that it was coupled with horrible thermal design.

I'm sure Microsoft would have been fine if their consoles only lasted 3-5 years. What're you going to do, sell all your games+accessories? No, you buy another one. The problem was that it was failing too soon.
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Yea except that because of this rampant use of terrible solder I now keep around a heat gun to repair these electronics. I've fixed a number of electronics using heat reflow. Xbox 360's, HP laptops, and even some hard drives. Problem is though, the solder is so cheap the repair can be temporary in some cases, and requires another heat reflow.

Cheap is expensive, take it from me. It's worth to spend the extra money on something that won't break, as opposed to something that breaks in 1-3 years. That cheap solder ruined the Xbox 360's reputation. Red Ring of Death is worse then Blue Screen of Death. I tell ya, it'll effect people wanting to buy an Xbox One, that's for sure.

But you know what, these fucking things still work. My Sega Dreamcast works, and my Playstation 2 still works. They weren't built to fail.
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Don't worry, MS will still find a way to red ring that bitch and make you buy a new one every 1.5 years.
 
If a device throttles to prevent overheating then that product is a failed product because you are not getting the speed you paid for. I know video cards and cpu do this but if my video card was throttling all the time to prevent overheating I would return it as defective. It is a band-aid approach.
 
My Sega Dreamcast works, and my Playstation 2 still works
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Dreamcast lasers were pretty bad in early gen models which either failed or had to be realigned (I know have fixed many of them) not to mention shorting controller ports, but this was all easy stuff one could fix on there own.

PS2 had a ton of early system failures also because of there laser as well hell even PS3 bluray laser was shit too (had mine fail 2 times and the first time SONY repaired it gave up and junked it after the 2nd failure after only mild usage played more movies then games go figure)

But you are right earlier systems that were ONLY game machines had great realiablility because thats all they did was play games. The new systems are like an All in One printer if one part fails you cant use it anymore either fix or buy a new one....
 
Wow, you guys are way too paranoid. I believe that article makes mention that this feature is geared more towards misuse and abuse.
 
Build a spring loaded arm into the top of it so when it overheats due to something being on it it can fling the offending object at the user.
 
Wait the last one did that, well the last revision anyway, noisy as heck when it speeds up, especially when compared to the PS3.
 
Ashbringer said:
Yea except that because of this rampant use of terrible solder I now keep around a heat gun to repair these electronics. I've fixed a number of electronics using heat reflow. Xbox 360's, HP laptops, and even some hard drives. Problem is though, the solder is so cheap the repair can be temporary in some cases, and requires another heat reflow.

Cheap is expensive, take it from me. It's worth to spend the extra money on something that won't break, as opposed to something that breaks in 1-3 years. That cheap solder ruined the Xbox 360's reputation. Red Ring of Death is worse then Blue Screen of Death. I tell ya, it'll effect people wanting to buy an Xbox One, that's for sure.

But you know what, these fucking things still work. My Sega Dreamcast works, and my Playstation 2 still works. They weren't built to fail.
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fun fact the lead free solder costs MORE then the older stuff with lead in it
it wasnt a cheap solder issue
it was that the first gen of lead free solder was crap
and it effected more then just the xbox360
 
I think the 360 just had design flaw. I had the OG and i sent 2 in for RROD fix when they used to have a year warranty on them. After that same / refurbished machine i got back from them did it i said screw it and found my own solution. Re flowing the machine only fixed for a month or 2 until head became an issue again.

I found to fix the RROD for good you had to remove the X clamps from the button of the motherboard. I am gonna go with poor design here. I have fixed a bunch of 360s now with RROD and most of them are still working.

For them to say they changed the system to adjust to cooling makes me wonder how much thought they actually put into it the first time and how much testing they actually put it thru this time. I mean people dont ever turn of these devices so they get overused.

I hope they can figure out this problem but i must say for how many i dealt with i may have to stick to PS4 on this one. I still have a working PS1 in my basement!!!
 
A couple of different items.

As previously noted thisis nothing new for AMD or Intel. Welcome to the modern age.

As to the 360 problems it just wasn't manufacture in China. Also plants in Hungary and Mexico built units too. The most problematic were not from China but Hungary. Poor soldering as well s the problems with DVD drives from Hungary. Somehow they f'd up installation on them badly. Even better the drives tended to fail about 95 days after purchase.

As to the real problems for RROD crappy TIM. Crap heatsink design the early ones were a single block of aluminum with a some extrusions not fins covering all heat sensitive components. Then couple that with some seriously shite 40mm fans that couldn't keep up as being only a few CFM. I would love to know who the idot was that thought this was a good idea. At least the PS3 had the old Zalman style "flower" type heatsink with a serious fan in the middle of it. Might sound like a jet taking off but at least it kept it from dying.

My favorite article on this was an old Kotaku one bitching that his PS3 murdered his 360. In his infinite wisdom he had both consoles in a closed back entertainment system left them both on and closed the door and forgot about them. Came back later with a "Oh Shit!" moment because there was an RROD on his 360 and his PS3 sounded like a jet turbine.
 
Microsoft: "Yeah, it won't overheat. And we overheard that when the PS4 overheats, it'll, uh... explode and kill your family! Yeah. Buy our product."
 
maxius said:
Give credit to amd for engineering such a fantastic piece of silicone that has this feature by default. Microshit deserves no credit here
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I didn't realize AMD was into the bouncy bouncy. Maybe I need to relook at buying AMD again if they provide such benefits.

And lead free solder, the early stuff, was appallingly bad. Remember the Nvidia 8000 series mobile chips?
 
Microsoft can suck it. I'll believe it when I see it. I just had to purchase my 4th xbox 360 last week. That's terrible hardware quality. And to top it all off - it's a slim model - supposedly free of heat issues. But it's not! It overheats and crashes! It's done it 3 times in one week of ownership (and yes it's out in the open and fully ventilated). It's not RROD, but it shouldn't overheat period, ever, not even slow down. You'd think with the size of that xbone box, and the fact the power brick is external, this would be a non issue....

They suck at making hardware...
 
So if the console starts overheating all the players on your screen turn into stick figures to reduce system usage and cool system down?
 
Mini-Me said:
No, they mean the Xbox One can literally shift around its internals like a Transformer (specifically, a Decepticon) to fix airflow problems. ;)
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Fuck yeah

Kongar said:
Microsoft can suck it. I'll believe it when I see it. I just had to purchase my 4th xbox 360 last week. That's terrible hardware quality. And to top it all off - it's a slim model - supposedly free of heat issues. But it's not! It overheats and crashes! It's done it 3 times in one week of ownership (and yes it's out in the open and fully ventilated). It's not RROD, but it shouldn't overheat period, ever, not even slow down. You'd think with the size of that xbone box, and the fact the power brick is external, this would be a non issue....

They suck at making hardware...
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Are you resting them on space heaters? or inside of your oven?
 
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