GTX 570 comming December 7th (large pic inside)

prava said:
when you talk about room temperature only power consumption comes into play, nothing else
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GTX 580 is neck and neck w/the 480 on power draw, yet obviously has less impact on ambient room temperatures. Therefore, more than power consumption is in play.
 
5*General said:
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GTX 580 is neck and neck w/the 480 on power draw, yet obviously has less impact on ambient room temperatures. Therefore, more than power consumption is in play.
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I'd love to have someone explain to me the thermodynamics of the 580 vs 480. The difference in wattage consumption appears fairly insignficant but from what I hear, the difference in heat given off and affecting ambient room temps is huge!
 
vjcsmoke said:
I'd love to have someone explain to me the thermodynamics of the 580 vs 480. The difference in wattage consumption appears fairly insignficant but from what I hear, the difference in heat given off and affecting ambient room temps is huge!
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That was my point. I've used many different CPU coolers and they all varied in the amount of heat being exhausted at the same temp. The water vapor cooler Nvidia is using on the GTX 580 is sucking up a lot of heat.
Try this. At 60-70C, feel the heat being exhausted out of your video card, then feel the heat being exhausted out of the CPU HSF at 60-70C. Which is hotter? Which has the better cooler?
 
WorldExclusive said:
That was my point. I've used many different CPU coolers and they all varied in the amount of heat being exhausted at the same temp. The water vapor cooler Nvidia is using on the GTX 580 is sucking up a lot of heat.
Try this. At 60-70C, feel the heat being exhausted out of your video card, then feel the heat being exhausted out of the CPU HSF at 60-70C. Which is hotter?
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Your video card has a lot more things on it generating heat than your CPU does.
 
UtopiA said:
Your video card has a lot more things on it generating heat than your CPU does.
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The guy said nothing else comes into play besides power consumption. I don't know temps of all the little components on the PCB, but were just talking about internal temp vs exhaust temp.
His point is that it doesn't matter what type of cooler is being used, the same amount of heat will be dissipated into ambient.
 
vjcsmoke said:
I'd love to have someone explain to me the thermodynamics of the 580 vs 480. The difference in wattage consumption appears fairly insignficant but from what I hear, the difference in heat given off and affecting ambient room temps is huge!
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Dumping heat from the card is dumping heat, its not about the cooler, its about how much heat the card is going to generate to begin with. You can have the most stellar cooler to keep the card cool but if it is going to crank out (for example) 100 thermal units then the ambient is going to pick that up vs a card that only generates 50 units to begin with.
 
It makes complete sense to me that if a card dissipates 200W of power then it releases X amount of heat into a room regardless of anything else. I also know however that given the same card with a better cooler the room temperature doesnt go as high. I dont get it. I guess the cooler just retains more of the heat?
 
Cali3350 said:
It makes complete sense to me that if a card dissipates 200W of power then it releases X amount of heat into a room regardless of anything else. I also know however that given the same card with a better cooler the room temperature doesnt go as high. I dont get it. I guess the cooler just retains more of the heat?
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Heat has to go somewhere, its not going to sit on the card forever, the card will absorb whatever the cooler cannot dissipate, after that its up to convection within the case and thermal radiation. Either way the heat is getting into the ambient eventually.

The cooler is designed to keep the card cool by dumping heat into the room.

There is no way two cards that generate 200 W of heat are going to have different room temperatures in the long run given the same conditions where the only differing variable is the kind of cooler you are using.

Edit: the better cooler is going to reach a warmer room temp faster than the card with the worse cooler (thus more heat gets trapped on the card rather than the ambient).
 
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I'm looking forward to this if within 5% of 480GTX and power draw near a 460GTX.

I want to stay with SLI, but need the cards to work in a 750w PS envelope.
 
Battleneter2 said:
http://www.nordichardware.com/news/...e-hands-to-partners-with-geforce-gtx-570.html

This article is fairly interesting, it suggests there wont be a reference model and the design is up to each individual partners. There may not be a card with the specs released because if true most may choose to clock higher than the stated base specs.
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That's a new direction. Have they done that before - I thought they were pretty much always reference cards even back to the 6800 days?
 
BK_201 said:
You should still be fine. Those are just recommended settings at the maximum possible load which isn't constant.
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Right, but what happens with it does want to max out and my PSU can't deliver? We all know nVidia cards are power hogs, I'm sure it's bound to happen fairly often.
 
Domingo said:
I'd guess one of the OEM's will have one with a DisplayPort.
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I sure hope that's the case, especially since ↓ :D
Battleneter2 said:
http://www.nordichardware.com/news/...e-hands-to-partners-with-geforce-gtx-570.html

This article is fairly interesting, it suggests there wont be a reference model and the design is up to each individual partners. There may not be a card with the specs released because if true most may choose to clock higher than the stated base specs.
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This is awesome news. I really can't wait to see what each partner will come out with. Maybe then we can get DP on some of them.
WhiteZero said:
Right, but what happens with it does want to max out and my PSU can't deliver? We all know nVidia cards are power hogs, I'm sure it's bound to happen fairly often.
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Then either you shut down or you fry something or everything. :p You have to upgrade then just to be safe.
 
BK_201 said:
Then either you shut down or you fry something or everything. :p You have to upgrade then just to be safe.
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Exactly. If it comes down to needing a new PSU, I'm just going to build a new rig, which I don't want to do yet.
 
Cool - unless there is something inherently wrong (which I'd assume a review will find), I'm in.
 
WBurchnall said:
World of warcraft: Cataclsym's launch? Thousands of reviews are posted and few people bother to read them as they are gaming?
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This is sarcasm yes? It must be sarcasm because the alternative is that you aren't aware the attack on Pearl Harbor happened on Dec 7th...and were that to be the case it'd be truly sad. Or you're not American, in which case it's understandable.
 
Vagrant_Zero said:
This is sarcasm yes? It must be sarcasm because the alternative is that you aren't aware the attack on Pearl Harbor happened on Dec 7th...and were that to be the case it'd be truly sad. Or you're not American, in which case it's understandable.
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Hell, some Americans don't know what date 9/11 occurred on and it's in the name. :rolleyes:
 
I'm quite curious to see how this product fares, though it seems we never get info on the number of units sold with these products.

Personally, I'm now hard pressed to see where the market is for this product. The high-end goes with the 580, the budget goes with the 460, and anyone in between with any sense is not going to pay a $150 premium for a 570 over a 470 for a little less noise and heat.
 
Matrices said:
I'm quite curious to see how this product fares, though it seems we never get info on the number of units sold with these products.

Personally, I'm now hard pressed to see where the market is for this product. The high-end goes with the 580, the budget goes with the 460, and anyone in between with any sense is not going to pay a $150 premium for a 570 over a 470 for a little less noise and heat.
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You never know. You might be surprised. Some people are looking to get a decent card with more power than a 460, but don't want to pay for a 580.
 
Matrices said:
Personally, I'm now hard pressed to see where the market is for this product. The high-end goes with the 580, the budget goes with the 460, and anyone in between with any sense is not going to pay a $150 premium for a 570 over a 470 for a little less noise and heat.
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Until they phase out the 470 and you no longer have that option.
 
I'm gonna bet they'll be $349.99 on standard model and extra for overclocked models. There will more than likely be price gouging when they first come out but that's the name of the game. Check on EVGA's site for MSRP Price. Gotta love EVGA for direct Sales, also PNY sells direct at MSRP usually.
 
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