Jack Thompson on FOX News right now

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spewing some garbage about Counter-Strike being a training source for Cho Seung-Hui as well as many other school shooting students

good thing the reporter is making him flustered and look like a general idiot :D
 
LOL, Counter Strike Source? Are you kidding me!? That's about as far away as possible as you can get from being realistic or even violent.

Yeah, so you run around shooting guys .. so what? It isn't like you can blow body parts off and most people play the game for sport, not for the violence - what little violence there is, at least.

Jack Thompson, as usual, proves that he is a mega asshat.
 
No, he's right.

Didn't you hear the students describing the shooter as having a desk attached to him via a rope around his neck, with a gun mounted to the bottom and a laptop resting next to a Razer mouse?
 
How can someone use a game as training ? I never played a game that taught you how a gun works, how to load it, fire it etc. You only press a god damn button. :rolleyes:
 
He's just a modern day book burner.

So much of the population play games like that or have children who do that I'm fairly certain a fair majority know he's talking out his ass.
 
shouldn't laugh, but lol.

The only blame to be placed is on Cho Seung-Hui himself. It just shows how much of a gimp Jack Thompson really is when he is using such a horrific incident for a scape goat to aid his own personal vendetta.

Jack Thompson, you are actually are bell-end, well done to you.
 
Man, I could be a General in the military after playing so much Zero Hour. How much do they get paid? I assume I can skip bootcamp, no?
 
As a virginia tech alumnus I came home early monday to check up on people and watch what was happening. I was absolutely shocked to hear his name as a guest on the news at 3pm when so little was known. He was 100% as insensitive, inaccurate, and inciteful as I anticipated.

Even if it was known or if he merely felt with absolute certainty that video games somehow caused this, it was completely sickening to hear him push his agenda at that point in time, and fox should be ashamed of itself for letting him on. Thompson, like the rest of the world, had no facts on the identity of the shooter, yet he immediately began talking about video games. I lasted 15 seconds before I turned it off.

I'm conservative, and often watch certain programs on fox news, but I'll never watch the channel again. The second I heard his name I knew exactly what he would talk about, so either fox put him on knowing what he would say, or they know less about their guests than I do. It was irresponsible and insensitive for them to put him on tv at that point in time.

For me, this isn't about the validity of the issue at hand, its about the timing and agenda that he pushes. There's no doubt in my mind that he got gleefully excited when he heard about the shootings.
 
Spaceman_Spiff said:
As a virginia tech alumnus I came home early monday to check up on people and watch what was happening. I was absolutely shocked to hear his name as a guest on the news at 3pm when so little was known. He was 100% as insensitive, inaccurate, and inciteful as I anticipated.

Even if it was known or if he merely felt with absolute certainty that video games somehow caused this, it was completely sickening to hear him push his agenda at that point in time, and fox should be ashamed of itself for letting him on. Thompson, like the rest of the world, had no facts on the identity of the shooter, yet he immediately began talking about video games. I lasted 15 seconds before I turned it off.

I'm conservative, and often watch certain programs on fox news, but I'll never watch the channel again. The second I heard his name I knew exactly what he would talk about, so either fox put him on knowing what he would say, or they know less about their guests than I do. It was irresponsible and insensitive for them to put him on tv at that point in time.

For me, this isn't about the validity of the issue at hand, its about the timing and agenda that he pushes. There's no doubt in my mind that he got gleefully excited when he heard about the shootings.
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Fully agree. Anyone that see's something such as this as a platform does not deserve a voice.
 
Did the Fox reporter happen to ask Thompson exactly what videogame Whitman sharpened his skills with before sniping 15 people from the UT tower in 1966?
 
Oh thompson. We just need to stop giving that attention whore attention. If we ignore him, maybe he will go away.
 
Problem with ignoring is, the media loves controversy, and that is what he brings.
Until someone can basically shut down every little thing he says and then some or takes him to court to shut up. He will keep talking out his a$$.
 
Cho Seung-Hui was seen bunny hoping around the class room halls in order to dodge head shots

at least he didn't awp whore them :D
 
joemama said:
Did the Fox reporter happen to ask Thompson exactly what videogame Whitman sharpened his skills with before sniping 15 people from the UT tower in 1966?
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lol - Great point. But let's not stop there...

What video game was Booth playing before he shot Lincoln?
 
Nothing seems to change.
I honestly have no issue with legislation passing requiring a form of ID to purchase a game. What I don't agree with is Jack Thompson claiming that gaims like Doom, Counter-strike, and GTA are "murder simulators," and that it was a game which prepared or caused this guy to go crazy.

BTW- I'm guessing this thread will probably get the lock b/c it should really be in genmay....but anyway..
 
Spaceman_Spiff said:
As a virginia tech alumnus I came home early monday to check up on people and watch what was happening. I was absolutely shocked to hear his name as a guest on the news at 3pm when so little was known. He was 100% as insensitive, inaccurate, and inciteful as I anticipated.

Even if it was known or if he merely felt with absolute certainty that video games somehow caused this, it was completely sickening to hear him push his agenda at that point in time, and fox should be ashamed of itself for letting him on. Thompson, like the rest of the world, had no facts on the identity of the shooter, yet he immediately began talking about video games. I lasted 15 seconds before I turned it off.

I'm conservative, and often watch certain programs on fox news, but I'll never watch the channel again. The second I heard his name I knew exactly what he would talk about, so either fox put him on knowing what he would say, or they know less about their guests than I do. It was irresponsible and insensitive for them to put him on tv at that point in time.

For me, this isn't about the validity of the issue at hand, its about the timing and agenda that he pushes. There's no doubt in my mind that he got gleefully excited when he heard about the shootings.
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As a liberal I've hated FOX news for years. They clearly push the conservative agenda far too hard, I can't stand to even see it while channel surfing. I do realize that MSNBC is the same way with liberal issues though. CNN seems to be the only fairly balanced place to get your news from on the tv these days so I try to stick with that. Never hearing the other side of the argument is no way to make an informed decision.

That aside, I completely agree with you that standing atop a tragic event to push your political agenda is a very egregious position to hold.
 
Spaceman_Spiff said:
As a virginia tech alumnus I came home early monday to check up on people and watch what was happening. I was absolutely shocked to hear his name as a guest on the news at 3pm when so little was known. He was 100% as insensitive, inaccurate, and inciteful as I anticipated.

Even if it was known or if he merely felt with absolute certainty that video games somehow caused this, it was completely sickening to hear him push his agenda at that point in time, and fox should be ashamed of itself for letting him on. Thompson, like the rest of the world, had no facts on the identity of the shooter, yet he immediately began talking about video games. I lasted 15 seconds before I turned it off.

I'm conservative, and often watch certain programs on fox news, but I'll never watch the channel again. The second I heard his name I knew exactly what he would talk about, so either fox put him on knowing what he would say, or they know less about their guests than I do. It was irresponsible and insensitive for them to put him on tv at that point in time.

For me, this isn't about the validity of the issue at hand, its about the timing and agenda that he pushes. There's no doubt in my mind that he got gleefully excited when he heard about the shootings.
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Completely agreed, Spaceman. Right now is the WRONG TIME to be bringing these issues up .. just goes further to show that this guy doesn't really care about the families or about those harmed by violence. He just cares about recognition and being as controversial as possible. In short: He whores attention, and he's a damned good prostitute in that field.

I hate that Jack Thompson ALWAYS jumps the gun on every notice of a shooting or an act of violence, just to do some worthless and short-sighted crusade against video games. It's the same crap over and over. I've been playing violent video games all my life (pretty much since Doom at the age of about 5-6) and I'm not in the least bit a violent person.

The notion that video games turn people into killers is just ridiculous .. the people are BORN AND/OR MADE killers according to how they're brought up , they don't play video games and decide, "Hey, since I can kill a bunch of people in Grand Theft Auto, I'm going to do it in real life, too!" And the notion that these games can actually help someone "train" for killing is also ridiculous. Yeah, because I can click a mouse, obviously I'm ready to go on a killing spree! Let's do this!

Of course, these violent games can further PERSUADE sickos that killing is the right thing to do, but it's idiotic to believe that they can truly convert people into murderers. It's like with rated-R movies - just because people watch and enjoy violent films doesn't mean they are actually going to go out and commit violent acts. Just because someone watches Friday the 13th doesn't mean they're going to go around stabbing and killing people afterwards. :eek:

I'm just disgusted beyond words.. I hate this guy.
 
I could only stand watching the youtube of the phone call for about 30 sec before I clicked on the video where he claims kids are training on these "murder simulators" like Postal 2.
With that kind of logic I should be mayor/city planner since I've been training on the Sim City series for over ten years. I can also fly a 747 or any other aircraft just like in the Flight Simulator series since I've been trining at my computer for again, over 10 years. Even though I have taken flying lessons, Thompson seems to think that I am unable to tell the difference between and game and the real thing. I'm going to get back to my "murder simulator now" and shoot some bad guys and mutants in Stalker since it's obviously based in reality just like Half Life 1&2, Doom 3, FEAR, Oblivion, and all the other ones I've played lately. :rolleyes:
 
Sobek said:
I'm going to get back to my "murder simulator now" and shoot some bad guys and mutants in Stalker since it's obviously based in reality just like Half Life 1&2, Doom 3, FEAR, Oblivion, and all the other ones I've played lately. :rolleyes:
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Sicko :p

I think it bugs everyone here when people make claims like this.
 
if anything cs:s would make angry when you went on your murderous rampage. you would shoot the person where the head shot box is in cs and miss the person irl by several inches.
 
pain.angel said:
As a liberal I've hated FOX news for years. They clearly push the conservative agenda far too hard, I can't stand to even see it while channel surfing. I do realize that MSNBC is the same way with liberal issues though. CNN seems to be the only fairly balanced place to get your news from on the tv these days so I try to stick with that. Never hearing the other side of the argument is no way to make an informed decision.

That aside, I completely agree with you that standing atop a tragic event to push your political agenda is a very egregious position to hold.
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I've always liked fox because they present a different style of news than everyone else. They generally have completely opposing view points pitted against each other, where, since the host is usually the conservative, he pretty much can have his way with things. But they still get two opposing views out there, and if you watch it with the goal of just learning about the topic from both sides (not to see who wins or who is right) it can be a good tool. Network news is terrible, and while CNN used to be more liberal I think its definitely gotten better recently, and I've been watching it almost exclusively.

It seemed to me that fox wanted to stir up some discussion this monday in the midst of a time when they should have concentrated on just reporting the facts, particularly since whatever guest they had on there would not be informed anymore than the average viewer.

The point of all of this is, some producer at fox thought, "hey we need a guest...lets get jack thompson on here to talk about how video games affect our children" because thats all he ever talks about! If this was anyone else, or even if this happened yesterday or today (his first appearance), I could excuse it, but he's completely one dimensional: anyone who knows anything about him knew exactly what he'll say.

He's hateful, insensitive, and insulting, but we expect that from him. At some point you have to give up on hoping that he'll change, and place the blame on those who empower him by publishing his writing and putting him on television. Each and every one of us can help do that by going to alternative media outlets that don't patronize him.
 
Yeah and since I have been playing WoW for 2 years+ now and have played a Rogue the entire time I should be able to stealth. Wow this will be cool now I can stealth into work late and people wont know!!!! Maybe I will find out where he lives, sap one guard, kill the other then kill the first guard. I'm and undead rogue so I will eat their bodies to replenish any health that I have lost. Then I will restealth into his house, find him, then use the following combo; CS>SS>SS>SS>(wait for CS to wear off)>KS>SS>SS>SS>Kick (just to make things fun:D )>Evis.... end of story and this bullshit.
 
Not this bullshit again, why am I not supprised.

I'm trying to summarise how I feel about this whole situation with JT and his attitude towards games, he seems to think they're murder simulators in which people can train to kill others or that somehow encourage people to kill others.

This on some level is probabably true, but you should keep in mind 2 things.

1) This is NOT unique to games.
2) Banning games wont stop killers.

It's a sad day, what happened was horrible, and people like JT are emotionally involved in the shootings (you can hear him about to break down crying on the youtube link, just as he's talking about saying a prayer for his kids) and as an emotionally involved person he becomes irrational and instinctivly looks for something to blame, video games of course being the easy target.

But you can remove video games, you can remove guns, you can remove bombs and knives and other weapons, you can remove violent media and you can keep banning and removing these things from society and guess what...

Killers are still going to kill.

These are mentally disturbed people and they're not going to go away just because we ban games.
 
I say let him talk and make an ass of himself. The more he is recognized as the "Video Game Lawyer" the less chance we have of someone coming along that actually knows what they are doing.
 
Let's kidnap him and force him to play Counterstrike and Quake 4 for a week straight! Would be interesting to know what he would say after that.
 
Spaceman_Spiff said:
inciteful
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The grammar police in me just can't let this go, especially this month while I am in the middle of taking a writing and grammar class...

Insightful is a word, and doesn't mean what you were trying to say, indeed it means almost the opposite.

Inciteful is not a word at all.

However, with Jack Thompson running around acting the way he does on national TV, perhaps it should be....
 
arentol said:
The grammar police in me just can't let this go, especially this month while I am in the middle of taking a writing and grammar class...

Insightful is a word, and doesn't mean what you were trying to say, indeed it means almost the opposite.

Inciteful is not a word at all.
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Jesus christ, that was post 10 on the first page. Don't you have something better to do? If it were the previous post, sure, go ahead, call the SS. Since it was seven years ago, consider PMing him instead to better his understanding of the English language in private.
 
GJSNeptune said:
Jesus christ, that was post 10 on the first page. Don't you have something better to do? If it were the previous post, sure, go ahead, call the SS. Since it was seven years ago, consider PMing him instead to better his understanding of the English language in private.
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Actually it is still on the first page for me since I am registered and smart enough to change my own settings. I actually don't have anything better to do since I am at work. I was not being the SS, I actually said that perhaps it SHOULD be a freaking word, that is about as light as you can get on something like this. His post was 5 hours ago, not 7 years ago.

Finally, if he is going to use the name Spaceman Spiff then his writing really should be pretty damn good and corrected when it is not. To do otherwise is an insult to three of the greatest people/characters of all time; Calvin, Hobbes, and Bill Watterson.
 
LOL @ Mr. Thompson. If it was true i guess i'd be right up there as a good killer, after playing doom 1-3, duke nukem, shadow warrior, quake 1-4, fear and many more. Its just not true that it makes me a good killer though, how do i know, well for one clicking with a mouse isn't pointing a rifle down an isle and shooting at a target. I was forced into ROTC Marines during HS and had to shoot with C53's and pointing those things just across 30yards standing/kneeling/prone positions and shooting through the sights sucked, i could barely make marksman, unlike sharpshooter or above. Although with quake 3 and UT2000 i could have high scores with headshots and such.

Now could a violent game make you violent?! not if any sensible/sane person understands the real world and fantasy, even people understand violent movies as fantasy, or true storie documentories. :rolleyes:
 
arentol said:
Actually it is still on the first page for me since I am registered and smart enough to change my own settings.
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I'm at work. The internet is slow and flaky.

arentol said:
His post was 5 hours ago, not 7 years ago.
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Exaggeration, [not so] obviously.

arentol said:
Finally, if he is going to use the name Spaceman Spiff then his writing really should be pretty damn good and corrected when it is not.
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His writing, which this is not. It's just one word, and we all knew what he meant.

arentol said:
To do otherwise is an insult to three of the greatest people/characters of all time; Calvin, Hobbes, and Bill Watterson.
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Wow. I hope your seriousness stems from him being your dad or something. I respect your opinion as long as you don't think it's actually the authority. I like FoxTrot a lot more. Oh no. Please forgive my sin.



So Jack is saying Counter-Strike taught him to shoot, but is he saying that it consequently fueled his desire to carry out the shootings? There's nothing wrong with video games. It doesn't even mean we're drawn to violence. Some people like the entertainment of shooting stuff with no actual consequences (except the occasional broken computer peripheral :D).
 
so i guess this must be the reason why i watch BBC :), i think Jack Thompson got Tk's or lagged out so much, thats y hes so pissed. i think the real issue is noobs in games and having broadband connections. if i play supreme commander does that mean that i will go to the parliament and explode into an atomic bomb, or try and turn myself into a cyborg to take over the planet earth? or does playing CS mean that i am retardedly accurate with a REAL gun, and can estimate weapons prices. or maybe i could just slow down time and throw a grenade so i can see the shockwaves in slomo.
 
RogueTrip said:
Now could a violent game make you violent?! not if any sensible/sane person understands the real world and fantasy, even people understand violent movies as fantasy, or true storie documentories. :rolleyes:
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This is the problem, not everyones brains are wired the same, we [obviously] have a lot of wackos out there with a very eerie, sick curiosity of blood, gore, and killing things, whether it be animals or people. Granted, we all go through our "insect killing" stage where we use magnifying glasses to fry live insects, but some people simply do not grow out of this stage. This is why you see kids killing dogs, microwaving hamsters, etc...

There is something definitely not right in their minds!!! And it all boils down to the fact that the human brain is extremely flawed. While different brains provide different personalities and ideas, they also come with a wide range of mental disorders such as complete lack of emotion, obsession with violence, etc... For every x amount of seemingly normal human beings in the world, you have a complete wackjob who will not hesitate at taking innocent lives.

And no, video games and movies do not cause these disorders, HOWEVER I think it can be agreed upon that they certainly do not help. Feeding ones obsession with death and violence by providing them virtual death and violence can only make one even MORE intrigued.

I do agree that it's the job of the parent to discover these problems though, and hopefully seek professional help should their child actually be one of these emotionless bastards.
 
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