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Get their what?
This is strange news coming on the heels of discovering the closest thing to a habitable planet. Or perhaps we'll redirect money toward getting to that one? I doubt it but possible.
Remember, they attacked us, not the other way around. America is NOT some "evil" imperialist nation. We're defending ourselves, and people who want a free standard of living rather than oppressive nation-states that pretty much do whatever the hell they want to/with you. In most cases America is not the aggressor, and when we have been, it's been for good reason (at the time).
RIP American Space Exploration, it was nice while it lasted.
They want to eradicate the Jews. Why? Because the Jews claim that Israel is their land. It has been for a few decades, but before then it was a Muslim territory for hundreds of years. Going back further in time, it was Jews...
Who's to say that America, "the Big Brother", is to fix this s***? Who are we? Are we God? Who is right here? Who is wrong?
You can't say that Muslims are wrong in this case. If you do then you must be taking one side because of religious / biblical beliefs.
Jews lost their land long ago. It is not their anymore.
Also, listen to some of what Bin Laden had to say. Not just the U.S. propaganda war machine. The fact is, we have been in their holy land. We built bases there. After 9/11, The CIA concluded, what Bin Laden said himself. We were attacked because of our presence in the middle east.
Remember, they attacked us, not the other way around. America is NOT some "evil" imperialist nation.
You guys are misinformed whackos, that's the only reply I have.
The United States military has been intervening in other countries for a long time. In 1898, it seized the Philippines, Cuba, and Puerto Rico from Spain, and in 1917-18 became embroiled in World War I in Europe. In the first half of the 20th century it repeatedly sent Marines to "protectorates" such as Nicaragua, Honduras, Panama, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic. All these interventions directly served corporate interests, and many resulted in massive losses of civilians, rebels, and soldiers.
http://www.flagrancy.net/timeline.htmlFor the sake of what has become a very very poor attempt at brevity, or in recognition of the precedent set by the Nuremberg Tribunal and principles laid out under the UN charter, these notes will mostly focus on post-WWII history - though it would seem imperative to include interventions that fly in the face of the popular misconception that the United States ended its imperial project at the end of the Spanish-American war. There were military involvements during the 1890s by the United States Government ("USG" hereafter: it's not like it's your or somebody else's fault -- it's an institution with its own prerogatives which rarely accord with those it preposterously claims to represent) in Argentina, Chile, Haiti, Hawaii, Nicaragua, China, Korea, Panama, Samoa, in extremely brutal labour conflicts within the nation, and something akin to a war on working Americans waged by the National Association of Manufacturers that will otherwise go undiscussed. The Phillipines makes a decent representative example of the US' first official exercise in colonial imperialism and formal empire [*], also referred to as "civilizational imperialism" - a project we're presently repeating.
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10/25 - Christian Broadcaster Calls for Assassination of Venezuelan President, August 22, 2005, posted by blackmax
10/25 - Deputy Intelligence Director Recommends US Air Strikes against Nicaraguan Military Targets, December 14, 1984, posted by blackmax
10/16 - US Ambassador: US Will Subject Chileans to Utmost Deprivation and Poverty after Allende Takes Office, September 1970, posted by blackmax
10/16 - US Diplomat: Brutal Caribbean Dictator Fine with America, After May 30, 1961, posted by blackmax
10/3 - Rightists Assert Control of El Salvadors Post-Coup Armed Forces, October 15-16, 1979, posted by blackmax
11/16 - US Diplomat Joseph Wilson Faces Down Iraqis, Prevents Americans from Being Taken Hostage, September 20, 1990, posted by blackmax
2/6 - US Wargame Anticipates Looming Gulf War, June 9-August 4, 1990, posted by newmex
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11/28 - Regime of Carlos Humberto Romero Overthrown in Coup, October 15, 1979, posted by AJB
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8/23 - USS Stark Attacked by Iraqi Warplane, 37 Sailors Die; US Holds Iran Responsible, May 17, 1987 and After, posted by blackmax
8/19 - Cheney Secures Permission for US Forces to Attack Iraq from Saudi Arabia, August 5, 1990 and After, posted by blackmax
8/19 - US Intelligence Community Predicts Iraq Will Not Invade Kuwait, Mid-1990, posted by blackmax
8/12 - Defense Secretary Cheney Helps Plan Iraq Invasion, Late 1990, posted by blackmax
8/12 - National Intelligence Estimate Predicts Iraq will Withdraw Rather than Face US Invasion, Late December 1990, posted by blackmax
6/18 - British MP Files Complaint over Use of Diego Garcia in Rendition of Ghost Detainees, June 2, 2008, posted by blackmax
2/22 - CIA Organizes General Strike in Guyana, April, 1963, posted by Szamko
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Amen.
We just need one big asteroid to come on a collision course with us and we'll be screwed because of no defense setup existing... or some of the "not so good" nations to get laser targeting mounted on satellites... and we're screwed.
Oh, and we'll fall behind on technology at a quicker pace too, without these research programs going.
Fuck NASA.
If NASA wants that money they can do what school systems do and have a bake sale!
The only way it will happen, If anything can get it done is free market capitalism. If there is any money to be made out of it, then fine, other wise it's a toxic rust bucket. There will be no return on money wasted there.
Fuck NASA.
If NASA wants that money they can do what school systems do and have a bake sale!
The only way it will happen, If anything can get it done is free market capitalism. If there is any money to be made out of it, then fine, other wise it's a toxic rust bucket. There will be no return on money wasted there.
Like war?
wow way to go OT thread lock in 3...2...1
also
i dont think some of you know how much spin off tech we get/got from NASA
you do know any thing NASA comes up with is in the public-domain right?
also that computer your sitting at yea that was thanks to the push to make them smaller for Apollo
wile it might not seem like it NASA does a lot of good and insanely under funded
you know that bail out we gave the banks? that could of kept NASA funded and the shuttle flying for another 20 years
to the comments about a gas tank and a nozzle tech
the issue is it takes a MASSIVE amount of energy to get in to LEO even more for higher orbits and more of the moon, mars would take VERY big rockets to lift very little cargo
a big gas tank and a nozzle really is the best way short of a nuke to get that kind of energy atm
unless you can build a space elevator
Funny you mention that because there is already one well on its way. Is called Apophis and it will be our best chance to test wether we can actually manipulate an asteroid on its way to earth. But the US gov't couldn't care less
You really hate the USA, don't you?
Very sad
I would gladly volunteer an extra 1% tax on myself to help Nasa...I already donate to them as I can.
Sadly the powers that be would rather see our legacy as a smoldering crater in the earth than a monument of the human condition on some far away land.
I never understood why the jump to Mars. We send probes and robots to check things out now. Lets concentrate on building proper orbiting stations and a few bases on the moon. We have got to have a better jumping off point than Earth, and the Moon would be a great place to start.
Lets figure out how to better explore asteroids for materials, and then bring them into an orbit around the moon to process. (You make a mistake and it crashes into the moon, no harm done.)
Spend more money on scientific research, to develop new materials or ways of converting/transmitting power. Lets get some kind of satellite system up that can tap into all the free energy pouring off the sun every second and transmit it down to the earth/moon.
Continue exploring outer planets with robotic missions. Getting a proper station built and bases on the moon would be a major accomplishment. Can you imagine having the option of moving to the moon/space station to work?
This BS about getting a man on Mars is just stupid. I could see trying to get men on Mars if it already had an oxygen rich atmosphere and could support life. But, considering our current technology level, it is the same as the moon. Lets develop a real, achievable plan, to build a stepping stone into future space exploration.
Lets develop a real, achievable plan, to build a stepping stone into future space exploration.
Two things.
1) You plan on developing this by...cutting budgets? Last time I checked, hard working, intelligent people aren't cheap.
2) You don't develop big jumps in technology by looking at the small picture. You set huge goals, and work toward them. You don't get this by cutting the budget of a group that has introduced many, many technological advancements.
Cutting the space shuttle program, I could at least see the point. NASA could have (not saying they were) been using it as a crutch, and holding them back from finding new ways to get into space. Not to mention the fact that the shuttles are old. Make them start over and find new ways of getting to space.
You can't find new things if you constantly remove their ability to get good talent.
i dont really think that killing the shuttles was a great idea at lest till there was replacement space plane or an upgrade plan
the AIRFRAMES of the shuttle are about as good as your going to get for its mission profile
the systems on them were VERY old but that could of been fixed
hell look at the B-52 some of the airframes are 50 years old lol or more
I don't quite look at space travel the way I do air travel.
B-52 has an issue that requires abandoning it, you jump out and pull a 'chute. Risky, but you have a relatively good chance of making it out of the plane without injury.
Space shuttle has an issue, you're stranded in space.
Two things.
1) You plan on developing this by...cutting budgets? Last time I checked, hard working, intelligent people aren't cheap.
2) You don't develop big jumps in technology by looking at the small picture. You set huge goals, and work toward them. You don't get this by cutting the budget of a group that has introduced many, many technological advancements.
Cutting the space shuttle program, I could at least see the point. NASA could have (not saying they were) been using it as a crutch, and holding them back from finding new ways to get into space. Not to mention the fact that the shuttles are old. Make them start over and find new ways of getting to space.
You can't find new things if you constantly remove their ability to get good talent.
*If* NASA had the money, they should focus on getting people on Mars, rather than sending rovers there. Much more exciting. (See Dr. Zubrin on YouTube... It isn't that complex of an undertaking.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Launch_SystemRIP American Space Exploration, it was nice while it lasted.
That said, I do find it funny that when I speak only the truth ones uneducated response is "You hate America you damn terrorist!". If that's not the most common dumb ass American comment than I don't know what is...lol. Nothing I said was wrong even if it hurts your false pride. The growing hatred towards our country is definitely not the stuff they sell you on your paid for news/TV show.
i dont really think that killing the shuttles was a great idea at lest till there was replacement space plane or an upgrade plan
the AIRFRAMES of the shuttle are about as good as your going to get for its mission profile
the systems on them were VERY old but that could of been fixed
hell look at the B-52 some of the airframes are 50 years old lol or more